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Trapped in a nightmare
Sima Kadmon
Published: 23.12.11, 15:15
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1. If you feel it then know this: we're taking our country back
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.23.11)
2. What about leftist violence?
Rachel ,   US   (12.23.11)
3. Sima Kadmon,you're correct!
Ali Clark ,   Scotland   (12.23.11)
I'm glad to see a voice of reason.You're quite right to be worried ,these people could start a war at best and completely destroy your country at worst.Thank you for being a good honest Jew.
4.  our leaders condemn it and debate whether
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (12.23.11)
Yeah right................What leaders?
5. WE R NOT SCARED
Yaniv ,   Israel   (12.23.11)
Its the growing element of the right getter more powerfull which will save the country from being overrun by the Arabs. I do not condone the acts against against our soilders and a firm hand is need against those attacks but at the same time the government needs to stop appeasing the Americans and EU and selling our land for political points. All of Israel is ours and either the Arabs learn to live with us if not they can suffer the consequences.
6. # 5 so what do you suggest ???
dafer   (12.23.11)
are you saying that when a thug like you decides to just grab a piece of land that belongs to an arab and steal it , that arab should learn to accept the facts on the ground and lets you steal it without resistance , or when a bunch of thugs like you decide to burn a mousqe , the arabs should just sit on the side and let you do it without resisting , or whenever you decide its OK to kill an arab in the name of self defence and put a label under his name ( a terrorist ) means that we should just believe any story you tell us and believe you , you terrorist thugs, bullies , zionists...
7. The secular powers
zivron   (12.23.11)
The secular powers control the real military deterrants the religious zionists are incapable of reaching the targets . But relgious talmudic values need be incorporated hard work self restraint questioning social eqiuty and ruthless deterrant capacity..
8. Palestine Israel, 2 States, 1 Country, the only option now
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (12.23.11)
Jews want all the land, Arabs want all the land back, so both Jews and Arabs can have all the land together, 1 person 1 vote, true democracy.
9. Rightist violence?-peruse the images
Tom ,   USA   (12.23.11)
Just go back in time and browse the horrifying images of the Gaza expulsion. Mounted police beating bleeding people, horses trampling on fallen victims: those pictures went viral on the Web. Leftist dream: let's oppress and brutalize those who are not towing the leftist line, straight from Stalin's play-book. How many foreign and domestic leftist violent protester were apprehended at the "weekly" protest at Bilin? Not very many if any. Leftist violence is "progressive" but nationalist citizens are "fascist" -- according to the appeasing enablers of Islamofascism at Haaretz's.
10. To: Sima Kadmon
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.23.11)
What the hell is wrong with you? Please show me one court indictment proving conclusively that Jews are responsible for the mosque arson and the grafitti. Please explain how it is possible for Jews to sneak into an Arab village in the dead of night, remain long enough to vandalize a mosque, and then sneak out again, without a single alarm being raised. Are you that mentally defective that you do not realize that if not a single dog barked, or raised an alarm, it can only be because THEY RECOGNIZED WHOMEVER WAS VANDALIZING THE MOSQUE? You don't need a particularly high IQ to appreciate the stink in the suggestion that Jews are responsible. We are not. We do not vandalize or set fire to houses of worship, and we do not defile cemeteries. On the other hand, Arabs -- the ersatz "Palestinians" in particular -- have a long and undistinguished history of doing precisely that. Was it not they that blew up 48 synagogues in the Old City of Jerusalem? Was it not they that used tombstones from the Mount of Olives to pave latrines? Your fears and concerns are severely misplaced. Look to the Arabs; there you will find your vandals and your arsonists.
11. To: Yaniv at No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.23.11)
Very well said -- I could not agree with you more!
12. Since my aliya some years ago I felt many times
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (12.23.11)
that this was not my jewish country.These youngsters may make some mistakes but all my respect to them for their efforts in order to secure our future as jews.
13. What lies! No soldier needed emergency medical aid at a
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.23.11)
hospital. A rock was thrown just like rocks that were thrown at Jews who were really injured but the IDF ignored because arabs threw them. Sorry, but a common bandage was fine for the IDF commander who was in the area to STEAL homes from JEWS because the leftist not-supreme court acted in collusion with arabs to take land give by G-d Himself 3000 years ago. The settlers didn't attack the IDF with guns and knives and rockets like the arabs do, and they NEVER WOULD. NO, they they made a point, DON'T STEAL OUR HOMES. Don't join the IDF and believe that give you the right to become a member of hamas in an IDF uniform.
14. Left Wing Justice
Joe Sombrero ,   USA   (12.23.11)
I am secular while I disagree with many of the religious opinions regarding women, who is a Jew etc, I am more afraid of the Left. If they win there will not be a Israel.
15. #8. Steve: Yeah just like in Arabia...
Tom ,   USA   (12.23.11)
Your beloved Islamofascits cannot live in peace even within their own country: they are killing each other all over the place. Yesterday 60 death in Iraq, today 40 in Damascus, Libya, these are your beloved Arabs. Sure, you would be delighted if in your imaginary "one country" crap the Islamists started suicide bombing the Jews like they did before the wall. Your sick dream won't happen so all you can do is vomit your trite, regurgitated antisemitic trash in these forums.
16. The real problem
michael Pielet ,   israel   (12.23.11)
The real problem is kfiat cheloni, leftist violence, and a lack of leftist respect for the law.
17. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.23.11)
You are a fool (we know that; you do not have to keep on proving it with your silly little posts). The land NEVER belonged to Arabs. It has ALWAYS belonged to the Jews. In the times that it has not been sovereign Jewish soil, it has only ever been non-sovereign territory. Well, that's all changed. The Arabs have no claim upon the Jewish birthright. We were willing to share, but the interloping, squatter Arabs chose not to share. Too bad. We are no longer willing, and the squatter Arabs will have to leave. Hey -- you pays your money; you takes your chances. The Arabs have lost. Period, full stop, end of story. They need to find their future elsewhere. They never had a claim to Eretz Israel to begin with. Perhaps a nice lake-side town in Minnesota will do them just fine! Why don't you invite them? Or -- should I ask -- why is it you HAVEN'T invited them? Can it be that you feel the same as Jordan, Lebanon, Tunisia, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Oman, Musqat and Kuwait? That the ersatz "Palestinian" are nothing more than a terrorist rabble and are undesirable anywhere? Democracy? Do you think that Arabs have any knowledge of democracy? The only place where it is ever taught or practiced is Israel, and the ersatz "Palestinians" are doing their very best to destroy Israel. You really are one seriously deluded whack job.
18. Lettist "elite" worried majority taking back Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.23.11)
It is not rightist violence the leftist "elite" fears. Leftist violence is a far worse problem. Leftists at Bilim, and elsewhere, stone police on a regular basis. One IDF officer lost an eye due to leftist rioters. What really has the left worried is that, slowly but surely, the vast patriotic Israeli majority is taking back Israel.
19. #8. Paying Arabs to leave is far better option.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.23.11)
#8. Paying Arabs to leave is a far better option than your nightmare, which would destroy Israel within a decade, as you well know.
20. danger!!!
daze ,   US   (12.23.11)
sima, maybe you can hide behind zehava gal-on. She has extra security now. We sure don't want you girls to be scared of those Zionist anarchists, as they indiscriminately rain terror on the Jews of Tel Aviv
21. absolute nonsense
naava ,   jerusalem   (12.23.11)
such dramatic exaggeration !! 50 hilltop youths broke into that army camp..this author writes HUNDREDS OF SETTLERS BREAK INTO MILITARY BASE. you see, it's lies like this that the world believes. Just because this is an "opinion" doesn't give you license to distort the facts. Oh wait, you are a leftist. ...You are concerned, fearful for your country? Now you know how we on the center and the right have felt for so many years !!
22. Leftist weekly violence far worse !
Trumpeldor   (12.23.11)
A soldier lost an eye last week end ...
23. #10....
Matt ,   Milwaukee, Wi   (12.23.11)
You are absolutely delusional! You can't be serious! Just because you post the same lame argument over and over doesn't make it true. I suppose the riots of last week weren't Really settlers, they were dressed up Arabs? That is how redicilous your arguments sound to normal people. Open your eyes and see what is happening. Ignorance is not bliss!
24. until israel
mike ,   alton usa   (12.23.11)
until israel can see that letting a religion have a say in affairs of state is recipe for disaster these incidents will only escalate until finally civil war of sorts,israel seperation of church and state your only fooling yourselves to act otherwise eventually sects turn on each other this a fact.
25. Hysterical
Dan ,   Forest Hills   (12.24.11)
26. prophecy
Godstool ,   honolulu, HI   (12.24.11)
what is to be scared of? Don't you trust God's plan?
27. ISRAELIS are afraid?
Israeli 2   (12.24.11)
The rightists ARE the Israelis. What are you? A leftist?
28. #1 says it all
obsercer ,   palau   (12.24.11)
you think this is your country? who do you mean by "we" and what do you mean "taking it back" from the arabs usurpers? from the traitorious hellenists? who? surely you do not mean the torah true jews!! or do you?
29. Barak is not elected
Ralph Haglund ,   Lund, Sweden   (12.24.11)
He was dragged in by Bibi, just like Bibi has dragged in other leftists, he wants Meretz to keep control over High Court. Imagine you were born in Judea/Samaria, a place that produces lots of Israeli soldiers. His first 15 years is spent with stone-throwing arabs on one side and elements from army and police from the other side throwing him on the ground at 3AM destroying his family's all investments just for the fun of it. Arafat signed the control of area C to Israel, but the leftists want to give it away...... It happens that an arab, with help from Peace Now, suddenly after 18 years discovers that he owns a piece of land in area C...... So hopefully the law comes that ALL those have to do it within 4 years or forget it, then Israel pays cash if they can seriously prove it. Lots of articles tell how Barak is violent against nationalists for fun, not any legal necessity. Israel needs new elections for sure.
30. To: No. 23
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.24.11)
Please find for me one documented and proven case where Jews have defiled a house of worship or have desecrated a cemetery. Just one. I, on the other hand, can point to tens of thousands of destroyed synagogues throughout the world, and at least as many desecrated Jewish graves. Do you really want to embarrass yourself? Here's a bit of advice: tuck your mangy tail between your equally mangy legs, and slink away. The facts simply do not work with you on this one. Go have a beer and some good Wisconsin cheddar. Leave the intellectual matters to those who are capable of intelligent thought. Bliss you!
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