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A tradition of violence
B'Tselem field researchers
Published: 26.12.11, 00:45
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1. Painful
Manuel ,   Singapore   (12.26.11)
It is painful to read the experiences of the Palestinians at the hands of these settlers. I pray that the good G-d will hear their cries.
2. And peace will come when arabs move to an arab nation.
Moshe ,   Usa   (12.26.11)
3. The shadowy slanderers
Barry Bee   (12.26.11)
B'tselem are slanderers and the ynet is their mouthpiece....
4. B'Tselem
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (12.26.11)
For those who didn't, or do not, know, all B'Tselem field workers are Arabs. You can look it up on their website. So much for fairness and objectivity.
5. Gangsters parading as westerners
Nina ,   NYC   (12.26.11)
That's what Israeli leaders and governments have been since before inception. Terrorists is the name YOU should wear, not the dispossessed Palestinians.
6. It's b'tselem - they wouldn't lie or stage things, right?
Scott ,   USA   (12.26.11)
7. B'tselem has tradition of lying and treachery.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.26.11)
B'tselem is a fine organization to talk about traditions. Almost every accusation B'tselem makes against Judea and Samaria Jews turns out to be a hoax. Meanwhile, B'tselem offers no condemnation against constant violent leftists riots at Bilim and elsewhere. Nor does B'tselem condemn anti-Jewish terror with any spirit. B'tselem often does help entities hostile to Israel. B'tselem has a long tradition of lying and treachery.
8. Video fakes
Mike ,   Canada   (12.26.11)
The third video is a definite fake. None are wearing tzizit and they look like a group of Arabs, and leftists. The guy on the far left is clearly Arab. Their attire, appearance, gate and everything about them suggests they are actors. Just as the videographers and the poor "shephard", they are all part of this poor piece of paliwood productions.
9. You have made a horrible mistake. You will soon see
Vlad   (12.26.11)
If you had posted this on Haaretz, the comments would have been singing praises, because they are mainly clueless internationals with a handful of Israeli leftists. But you have chosen a site where most readers (myself included) are right-wing and support the settler movement. Your reception on the talkbacks will be very unpleasant, but I personally have no sympathy for you. Now onto your research - while I agree that there are individual incidents of violence, keep in mind that settlers like to cut down trees and harass, while Arabs love to blow up, shoot and throw stones. Also, I question whether some of the incidents are not staged by yourselves or by Arabs to gain sympathy.
10. Prophecy being fullfilled
Max ,   New Hampshire   (12.26.11)
Payback is a b---h. these Roman=Palestinians=converted Jews=converted Muslims are just being repaid back the racism and crimes heaped upon the Black, Brown Hebrews of old, the real people of the Tanakh and the funny thing about it these settlers is that they are not Jews, 85% of them have no origin in this land, but they are pseudonyms of G-d's power to fulfill prophecy and let us know that the fullness of the Gentile in this land is occurring every second. There was an article a while back as to whether these or the majority of these settlers were American or of Euro origin. However no part of G-d's existence is ever present nor is there any peace, just think everyday conflict, going to bed conflict, waking up conflict.
11. Why does B'Tselem not stop the rockets fired so maybe there
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.26.11)
could be peace? Always this organization has wild tales about Jews, and Israel had no right to give Hebron, JEWISH land, to the arabs in the first place but wishy washy politicians thought they could trade land for peace. Foolish thinking. Now arabs live on Jewish Hebron land, arabs complain, and rockets fall on Israel. B'Tselem members should send emails to each other and not to the public.
12. Want to look out for human rights
Joe ,   Newtown, USA   (12.26.11)
13. You want fair reporting...
Joe ,   Newtown, USA   (12.26.11)
show the Arabs throwing stones at Israrli buses and cars. There are two sides to the coin.
14. Want to look out for human rights
Joe ,   Newtown, USA   (12.26.11)
rights , go to Syria... Egypt... Iran... don't be cowards - it is there we will see your so called "concern".
15. Bad Videos...It could be Arabs themselves
Israeli 2   (12.26.11)
or Israeli leftists pretending to be settlers. In each instant, the camera was cut towards the end. No one pursued them or exposed them. When someone wants to show how bad the settlers are, he should show it to be believable. These videos are not credible at all.
16.  b'tselem works for whom ?
Abraham ben Jacob ,   Canada   (12.26.11)
It seems that b'tselem aspires to denigrate Israel at every chance. They make claims as they do here, with such intricate details, photos, ..........seems to me like a full time job, who is paying them ?.
17. b'tzelem
Aliza   (12.26.11)
b'tzelem standards are basically to hide the violence and truth regtarding the Arabs, and lie regarding people who live in Yehuda and Shomron. they are Israeli citizens and deserved to be treated as such. the Arabs, on the whole are not, and are typically out to murder and destroy all that your Israeli and Jew holds dear, such as human life. get real, and honest, which b'tzelem does not seem to be able to. period.
18. There were four near lethal attacks by Palestinians
Sam   (12.26.11)
In the past week there were three shooting attacks and one molotov cocktail shot or thrown on Israeli vehicles in just the past week. How many near similar attacks by settlers on Palestiinans have there been in the past year? About the same number. So clearly human rights abuses by Palestinians against Israelis is the by far more serious problem.
19. What about Palestinian violence against settlers?
Rachel   (12.26.11)
You know like the time the two Palestinians broke into a settler home and stabbed 5 family members to death, including a baby in her crib? Or the time they shot a pregnant Jewish mother, and her 4 little girls in the head,and kept spraying their bodies with bullets long after they were dead? Nothing the settlers have ever done to the Arabs,wrong and reprehensible as they are, can come compare to the violent, horrible things the Palestinians have done to them. Yet you never hear BTselem outraged against the Arabs for these atrocities, like the outrage they show against Israeli settlers for some violent,unfortunate actions of the settlers.
20. B'Tselem has no credibility
Rachel ,   US   (12.26.11)
21. YNet is a platform for hatred against settlers
who cares   (12.26.11)
Its obvious : YNet is a platform for hatred against settlers / haredim / rightwing government. YNet therefore is disqualifying itselve as neutral media ! YNet is a propaganda tool of Israels left !
22. Betselem
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.26.11)
Betselem is a foreign agent working for and paid by the British Foreign Office, the Norwegian Government and the European Commission. Betselem also receives some funds from the foreign-funded "New Israel Fund" and various European Church groups. Cynics would say allowing foreign governments to pay Betselem more without being noticed.
23. Sarcasm?
tejas ,   India   (12.26.11)
24. this article is why our news media need to be accountable
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.26.11)
One of the proposed (and I think rejected) new laws would have forced both B'tselem and Ynet to prove the truth of this article. Without it this is a just another B'tselem anti-Israel propaganda piece with fake or 1/2 videos that would never hold up in courts (not even ours).
25. #1 Dont believe everthing you read.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.26.11)
Ynet is not obliged to print the truth.
26. British Agents
joe sombrero ,   usa   (12.26.11)
These guys are funded by the UK they are nothing more than foreign goverment paid agents.
27. B'Tselem a tradition of lies
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.26.11)
The numerous reports that B'Tselem has created have been tested and challenged. To date they average about 99.9% pure fallacy. B'Tselem has a very long history of inventing and inciting. As foreign agents they should be arrested and deported.
28. B'Tselem has NO credibility!
Eric L ,   Chicago, USA   (12.27.11)
29. Sorry if I don't feel bad.....
Yushud Givaschitt ,   Basel, Switzerland   (12.27.11)
Perhaps the Jordanian Refugees should go home....
30. Can you document even one B'Tselem inaccuracy?
Ravarik ,   Jerusalem   (12.27.11)
I doubt that you can find even one incident in which B'Tselem published something that wasn't true. They are scrupulous and careful. If you can find one, I am sure B'Tselem did acknowledge it themselves, or would if you brought it to their attention. The gripes here seem like "blaming the messenger" and trying to avoid the issues. However, if you repeat false accusations frequently enough, some people will believe you.
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