Canada: Muslim 'honor killing' heats up national debate
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Published: 25.12.11, 18:40
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1. Teach them love over honour.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (12.25.11)
I'm an anthropologist, but I still find the idea of putting honour over love, regardless of the culture, to be inexcusable. I hope that this person and his accomplices get a harsh penalty. People need to know that this sort of thing won't be tolerated.
2. The laws of the jungle take precedence
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (12.25.11)
over the laws of civilization,humanity is doomed.
stude ham   (12.25.11)
there is no room in canadian law for the convenience of this horribly abusive and inhuman treatment of women. there is nothing in any law that can excuse the wanton murder of any human being. throw the shafias into the deepest dungeons and throw away the keys.
4. #1 You are anthropologist, you are not a veterinarian
Jorge ,   Israel/USA/Argentina   (12.25.11)
5. honor killings
dan kaplan ,   usa   (12.25.11)
this is almost as horrific (but not quite) as a jewish ultra-fanatic male idiot spitting on an 8-yr old girl for "immodest dress". the msm gives these incidents equal play.
6. Cananda shareya law on its way
Mike ,   Raanana Israel   (12.25.11)
7. kingston is east Toronto now?
BEN ,   TORONTO   (12.25.11)
8. "Believers" in freedom of religion
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (12.25.11)
make a big mistake in allowing religious practice which contradict freedoms that are basic to a democratic society. In Islam there is a cynical purpose to uproot the very freedom that they are seeking when they immigrate and give that freedom to their imam ayatollah, whatever with his 10 billion dollar swiss bank account.
9. #8
Trev ,   Canada   (12.25.11)
In Canada we have a multicultural system where no culture or religion is superior to another. It is not perfect a perfect system but it seem to stop people from blowing up building or themselves. Islam is not a religion of terrorists, it's institutions do not undermine democracy. It is fundamentalist of any fath that undermine religion. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists and who ever else are welcome as long as they leave their racism and discrimination behind them.
10. Oh, for pity's sake!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.25.11)
Sentence them, have they serve their terms and then deport the miserable stinking surviving lot to Afghanistan. If they value Afghani "culture" so much, they should have stayed there to begin with, instead of trying to impose their barbaric and primitive practices upon Canadians. Disgusting. What a primitive religion is Islam, that it tolerates -- and even encourages -- such despicable behavior.
11. to # 8
Ezra ,   sandiego   (12.25.11)
That was a well written answer, but I still say you have to spell it out to them during indoctrination. Never assume they will act correctly just because they moved.
12. Canada at the crossroads
HaifaGuy   (12.25.11)
Canada is culturally (and part geographically) sandwiched between Europe, particularly England and France, and the US. From my experience living in Quebec, my impression is that Canadians do not have a strong sense of nationality and, perhaps, never did. Therefore, they tend to trail the weakened Europeans in their quest to culturally redefine themselves into a multicultural all-inclusive paradise. Given the turn the events have taken in Europe, Canada is in for a rough ride, as well. Canadians should not delude themselves thinking that the turbid waters of Islamism will spare their homeland. They would have been much better off adopting the US-style patriotism and religious fervor but they despise their southern neighbors too much for that. In fact, besides the Potiomkin village of multiculturalism, Canadians define themselves through non- and anti-Americanism. What a waste...
13. Political Correctness Gone Awray
Marty ,   Toronto Canada   (12.25.11)
Under the guise of "Reasonable Accommodation" Canadians are prepared to put up with the eccentricities of many of our cultural minorities. Unfortunately Muslims have some customs that are anything but benign. This is murder plain and simple and despite all of the hand wringing by the lefties (especially the Toronto Star) - there is no provision in the criminal code to reasonably accommodate a father murdering his daughters and the so called "Auntie" first wife. This is not the first honour killing in Canada - a father and son killed a daughter named Asqa Parvez in 2007 and got life sentences. The Province of Ontario was faced with the issue of Sharia law which was also rejected in 2005 much to the chagrin of the Muslims. I wish the government would also tackle the issue of Muslim immigrants bringing multiple wives to Canada and pretending one is a cousin or auntie and putting the non declared wife on social assistance. Thank goodness the majority of Canadians are finally waking up to the fact that despite the Trudeau era concept of "Multiculturalism", some immigrants bring with them a bevvy of practices that simply are incompatible with normal behaviour in Canada. The best outcome from this trial would be the Afghan father or son on trial for the murder of their daughters having to share a cell in Kingston Penitentiary with Paul Bernardo.
14. Canada let in Muslims now this
John ,   NZ   (12.26.11)
The west needs to wake up to the fact that death and destruction follows the spread of Islam. Islam is the evil that Islamist follow, therefore outlaw Islam.
15. honor killings
Beate Zahn ,   Winnipeg, Canada   (12.26.11)
Tarek Fatah is not only the founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, he is also the author of the book "The Jew is not my Enemy" that every Jew (and non-Jew for that matter) should read!
16. To haifa Guy ,what is your own classification and
Jeff Lazier ,   Canada   (12.26.11)
definition among that ? Canadian jew? or more correctly a pro American Canadian Jew?Or because you are inside now lets close behind us the door for the rest. Your lovely America is much more multicultural than Canada , Mr waste ...
17. #10
John ,   Hamilton, ON   (12.26.11)
"Disgusting. What a primitive religion is Islam, that it tolerates -- and even encourages -- such despicable behavior.: You always have so much to say. I must have missed your comment on the 8 year old Jewish girl who was spat on by a Jewish man for being dressed "immodestly". In case you missed it, this is common in Israel but no one serves any time in jail
18. debased religion boasts honour
Bernard Ross ,   st anns bay, jamaica   (12.26.11)
19. Why was he allowed to live in Canada with two wives?
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (12.26.11)
20. #7: Look at a map before you ask a stupid question
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (12.26.11)
21. Muslims and Hindus should not be allowed to emigrate to
Rivkah   (12.26.11)
nations that are not principally Muslim or Hindu. The cultural differences are too great and Muslims and Hindus have a long history of violence against Christians and Jews and Westerners in general.
22. honor killings
joel ,   usa   (12.26.11)
any killings of innocent person is muder, whether honor murders or dishonor murders, the murderer should be hanged, ok?
23. #9 "fundamentalist of any fath that undermine religion"
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (12.26.11)
This is not true. Christians approach to secular govt is "give to Ceaser what is his, and give to G-d what is his." The Jewish faith doesnt have a fundamental problem with living in nations of the world, except for .... Israel. Even there their faith makes them subservient to other nations, unless of course they are persecuted in most of the other nations. Islam, however, has an amoebic like quality, that makes it want to subterfuge a society and make it all islam. Thats why democracies need to expose this contradiction and make immigrants renounce the part of the religion which makes them believe they need to overthrow your country, or dont bother immigrating.
24. #17 and #21. Rivkah, you are completely wrong about Hindus.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (12.26.11)
#17, you know in the US spitting on someone counts as assault. I wonder what it is counted as in the UK? Israel's legal system is based on Britain's #21, your statement on Hindus is so incorrect it is almost offensive. The Buddhist Mauryan emperor Ashoka the Great welcomed Jews into India with open arms and said we would always be welcome there. Subsequent Hindu rulers kept to this and if my memory serves me, I have read that India is the only place where we have never faced persecution. I hate to sound like I am attacking you, but I think it must be said that many of your comments have been, quite frankly, off the mark.
25. #10 Your hatred is beyond my disgust ,
George ,   Canada   (12.26.11)
you just make me vomiting.
26. # 21 what history your are talking about?
Sami ,   Lebanon   (12.26.11)
The only place that Jews lived in peace since pharaoh time was among Muslim and in Muslim countries, of course till the Zionist movement created the Palestinian problem. Straiten up your facts before posting rubbish.
27. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.11)
Obviously it was a deplorable act, but it did stop well short of murder, didn't it? On the other hand, what happened to these helpless women in Canada far exceeded being spat upon, did it not? Your analogy -- such as it is -- is both inapposite and really rather absurd. By the way -- such acts have been going on in Mea Shearim for decades. All of a sudden, it's an issue? If you venture into areas such as Bnei Brak or Mea Shearim, common sense dictates that you dress in accordance with the neighborhood standard. Why start trouble uynnecessarily?
28. Socially conservative views espoused
Ypip ,   Canada   (12.26.11)
by members of the Shafia family often take root in areas where religious teaching is oversimplified. The Qu'ran has been widely misinterpreted according to cultural divides Papp is correct; "Immigrants who come here can't bring their own mindsets with them." Be prepared for change; or stay out, because you'll be tried and convicted in a Canadian courtroom, jailed and or deported from where you came from. You can't practice your own cultural ideologies if they go against the LAW. Violence against women has no place in a religion that proclaims equal rights for males and females, Canada's Muslim leaders say.
29. To: No. 25
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.11)
Your English language usage makes me vomit, so I guess we are even. But why on earth would you even contemplate justifying what happened to those poor Afghan women? The fact that you do is what is really nauseating. You truly are a disgusting creature.
30. To: No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.11)
You think living as a dhimmi was "living in peace?" Guess again. Straighten (note proper spelling) out (note proper usage) your facts before posting absolute drivel. Have you forgotten the one million Jews that were unceremoniously expelled from Arab and Moslem lands with little more than the clothes on their backs? By the way -- check your history. The REAL Palestinians are the Jews. You need look no further than Ottoman census records and British Mandate census records. And you want to be a little careful. Lebanon is on our list, and it will not take us long. On that great day in the morning, the Litani becomes Israel's new northern border. Keep irritating us, and the new northern border becomes Tripoli. You need to calm down and shut up.
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