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US aircraft carrier 'spotted' in Iran wargames zone
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Published: 29.12.11, 10:02
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31. iran
joel ,   usa   (12.29.11)
just strike tehran and its nuclear facilities and things would be quiet!
32. Obama
Carl ,   United States   (12.29.11)
Barrack Obama is too much of a pussy to do anything to Iran.
33. #30 - good point, well made
David ,   Tel-Aviv   (12.29.11)
Uranium tipped bunker busting bombs may be the trick to disable any of their programs (and I agree nobody should look forward to the mullahs having such weapons) but Sarah B's words were: "What do you think would happen following two well-placed nuclear strikes upon Iran? I'll tell you. For starters, Iran would instantly lose one-quarter of its population." ..... so, 1/4 of the population of Iran equals roughly 18 million human beings that dear sweet enlightened 'i am of the free democratic advanced world' Sarah B wants to see vaporised, mean, women, and child ...... need I say more? Good thing she is being kept away from the big red button, with someone like her at the helm, we would have had our nuclear holocaust/WWIII by now
34. #5 - if this is how "the US starts wars"
William ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
why are you blaming Israel for a future confrontation? The US and Iran have scores to settle from long-ago, without the need for Israel to be part of the mix which has its own scores to settle with the cronies in Tehran. I do relish in your indirect claim of the innocence of Australia in global wars. Your country gladly joins in UK empire confrontations which need no spark in order to ignite but rather just a desire from the Monarchy to invade and add more subjects to the Empire. Australia is still part of that empire and acts as the quisling it is.
35. #7 - mostly because Iran targets everyone, everywhere
William ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
The major reason any sufferings would not be limited to Iran is because the Mullahs tend to target everyone - mostly civilians - everywhere, whether involved in hostilities or not. They've already said they'd nail every neighboring Arab country that is friendly to the West, that they would gladly send thousands of "shahids" with bombs across borders as they did to clear Iraqi minefields (although, that was kids with shiny, fake keys), and would target EU cities. In other words, Iran has clearly stated the words of every despotic regime in the world - if I'm taken down, I'm taken as many of everyone else with me for destruction and self-preservation are my own tenets. Amazing how often I hear that from everywhere in the Arab world - from Libya to Syria to Iran.
36. #15 - America's business is business
William ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
and if it means beating the crap out of Iran to ensure oil flows to global markets, so be it. Business is the underlying foundation to the US' actions globally. Always has been. Israel doesn't need to go after Iran alone, especially when even Sunni Arab countries are joining the fight, albeit clandestinely.
37. To: No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.29.11)
Honey, the sun has not yet risen on the day where I cannot bat down you and others of your political and intellectual (or lack thereof) bent in no time at all. Do not flatter yourself. By the way -- I am still waiting for a post from you that does something other than attack or attempt to ridicule me. You know, I'd like to see something of a serious and substantive nature. Or is that too much to expect? If so, I'll dial back my expectations. Just let me know.
38. US military position on Iran
Benjamin ,   Kailua Kona, hawaii   (12.29.11)
The Iranians are not stupid people. Their navy has assessed the situation as is doing this as a detractor from the nuclear issue and threats of more sanctions. In the event of conflict our mission is to sink most of their navy and then hit land bases, missile stations and infrastructure. Should Iarn use nuclear weapons against Israel or us, they will be burned to a nuclear cinder.
39. wow. am i impressed. i too have pictures in my basement of
ralph   (12.29.11)
aircraft carriers. ones even with planes on them and guess what you even can identify the planes on board. wow am i impressed. want to buy my collection?
40. Chicago?
Bill ,   Phoenix   (12.29.11)
Sheesh it seems everyone out of Chicago is anti American?
41. Nice move...
Daniel ,   Tracy USA   (12.30.11)
Ok so putting an entire carrier group into the straights is a good thing. remember there are probably a few subs and cruse missile ships with them. This is not a small move by any means. This is much bigger than most folks realize. This wasn't planed ahead or at least not a public maneuver, however without saying a word I think the US is calling Iran's bluff. If something were to happen, I am waiting to see the embargo on Iran's oil go through. But if Iran was that stupid, the carrier could have planes over Iran in minutes not days. You can use the carrier as a launch pad for drones, more importantly you can launch refueling planes to fuel up Israeli fighters. Don't forget the harpoon systems which could decimate the Iranian navy pretty quickly. Tomahawk systems from subs and cruisers could target anti aircraft systems as well as hit their air force. This could all be over before it actually starts..
42. I wonder if
buffalo bill ,   U.S.A.e   (12.30.11)
The french are going to help i ran ? they would first have to order Rogain for the troop testicles !!
43. Iran
Mark ,   grand haven   (12.30.11)
Brian, Realize a few things... The USA is in international waters. Our enemies have approached US waters... A ships design or size is of very little consequence in the nuclear age. Since WW2, having the abilty to blow any country off the map no country has actually used them. study they Iran/Iraq war which was more similar to ww1, poisen gas, trench warfare. Very civilized? Devout muslims fighting for oil and territory...
44. Nukes
Mark ,   grand haven   (12.30.11)
And there lies the dilemma, right? How many "good" Germans who "tolerated" the extermination and experimentation on Jews, Slavs, the mentally ill etc...should have died by a nuclear "creamation" to satisfy a result? And why is it no big deal to lose a few people every day to war,murder..and the international community stands by, does nothing. But speculates at only possibilities and theories. Christians and Muslims alike should be made to go to Darfur and sit mute w/out their big mouths flapping and listen to the stories of victims without any defense. They would know a bully then..
45. rx
Mark ,   grand haven   (12.30.11)
My suggestion ... Prozac, Therapy and a history book...oh yeah...as some old guys that would remember the US saving your butts when the Japanese launched attacks on your mainland in WW2....
46. uninformed.
johnny law ,   nowhereville, usa   (12.30.11)
Are you serious? This isnt Israel or the US starting anything. It's that hard line idiot for a president in Iran, who thinks he's the islamic messiah. Do the research. Iran was the one who is making threats here.
47. Iran
DDearborn ,   Nashua NH   (12.30.11)
Hmmm So its OK to violate their territorial waters and their air space. Its alright to blockade their ports and sieze offshore assets. Its alright to send in terrorists to try and destablize the government. Its alright to assasinate government officials inside Iran. But if Iran attempts to resist they are the bad guys? Come on people clearly the US on behalf of israel is trying to start a war here.
48. Enemies
Padre ,   Lakeland Florida   (12.30.11)
Let's see: Iraq was the most modern Middle Eastern country in the world. Fundamentalist muslims did not control the public in major cities. Our Ambassador encouraged Saddam to attack Kuwait for slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields just so Pappy Bush could improve his ratings by "saving" the Kuwaitis. Libya replaced Iraq in this regard: guess what happened there? The "freest nation" in the world has the most people incarcerated in the world and the bulk of them are in there for morals charges. Not real crime. People in jail because Fundamentalist Christians think ANYTHING that makes you feel good MUST be evil. War is organized murder: and while all you "patriots" out there pretend false alarm over Iran's nuclear program you should remember that only one country has ever used nuclear weapons aggressively to murder civilians. Its a shame our country has resorted to an international version of armed home invasion for its foreign policy.
49. #8 Actually.......
Padre ,   Lakeland Florida   (12.30.11)
Actually you shouldn't blame Obama, you should blame the cowardly morons who were in office when Isreal attacked the USS Liberty. ALL funds, aid, and support should have been cut off by Congress then instead of supporting those murderous reincarnated former Nazis (Zionists) for all those years. The real "chosen people" wouldn't need to suck America's teat to exist, and don't.
50. Oh, how I wish
HardCase ,   Charlotte, NC USA   (12.30.11)
we had a more intilegent President than Odumbo. The Persians are no dummies. I think that the USA is getting suckered into starting WW3, and we have this fool for Comadeer in Cheif.
51. #7 MAHMOOD-JUST TO LET YOU KNOW
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.31.11)
If iran should be stupid enough to confront the U.S., all that will remain of Tehran will be a pile of smoldering, radio-active cinders The won't have the opportunity to launch a retaliatory strike, there'll be no one left to pull the trigger It won't come to that, Iran will back down, even the Mullah[s can't be that stupid
52. #21 Henry - Carriers are for launching
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.31.11)
Aircraft, they don't need their own defensive devices, their planes will protect them Carriers don't have to be in the immediate battle zone, that's not their purpose, which is to get their aircraft close to the action is In time of war, they're usually several hundred miles away from the combat zone
53. #15 Never say never!!
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.31.11)
It seems you have forgotten about Israel destroying the Osirak reactor and the nuke plant in Syria Israel didn't ask for permission, she just went ahead and did what was necessary Iran has already threatened, all by it's lonesome, create a world wide crisis, to close the Staits of Hormuz I can understand why you're out of touch with reality, you claim to be a Palestinian, from a land that never existed under Arab rule
54. Just remember USS Liberty
Rompecoglioni ,   Modena, Italy   (12.31.11)
Really? You are on this for the purpose of survival and we are the stupid. I did not push you to go to Israhell. Maybe you are in pain because you can't find your tampons or you must be on menopause.
55. #54 Liberty was a SPY SHIP
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.01.12)
Pay attention to the findings of the Board of Inquiry Tampons, menopause, you seem to have leakage in what little brain matter you have “On June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War, Israeli war planes and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering ship, while it was on a surveillance mission off the shores of El Arish, in the Sinai Peninsula. 34 Americans died and 171 were injured. Israel claimed it mistook the Liberty for an enemy vessel. Several Israeli and U.S. investigations corroborated that claim.” In 1999, moreover, a National Security Agency report from 1981 was released claiming that "the tragedy resulted not only from Israeli miscalculation but also from faulty U.S. communications practices." Since July 2003, this report has been available on the NSA Web site accompanied by a recording of radio communications between Israeli pilots made by a U.S. spy plane on the scene throughout the episode. http://www.adl.org/israel/uss.asp
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