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'Israeli drone spying on Turkey almost shot down'
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Published: 03.01.12, 22:04
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31. heron turkey
zynell ,   e`de   (01.04.12)
What kind of hoax is this -cant find any article! Which sources? Why should they? Israel is copy/pasting a landscape/valley from northern Turkey (Rize) - this is news!
32. "Almost" shot down?
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.04.12)
Hey, Turkish turkeys, "almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. And you think your pathetic air force is a match for Israel? A drone beat two piloted aircraft. You idiots don't stand a chance against us. Best not try. It wouldn't be at all beneficial to Turkey's interests to annoy Israel. We might have to -- sigh -- mobilize about five percent of our available assets and crush you. Set out at breakfast -- we'll be home in time for lunch. You, of course, will be demolished. And don't look to NATO for your "salvation." They've been looking to get rid of you for a very long time, and that day is almost here. In the meantime: don't antagonize Israel. Unless you want a really sound spanking.
33. Kuzeyli
anton ,   Ist turkey   (01.04.12)
That sounds nice :) but afew problems thre turkey dont trust israel so there wont be any friendship in fact i predict we will see confrontaions in metirenian see regarding gas ;) and if you can analyze turkeys and israels position u would understand we and them are standing against eachother not together ;)
34. To: No. 33
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.04.12)
So it's all about Israel's discovery of those huge natural gas fields, is it? Well, you can beat your breast as long as you like, but it won't help. The gas belongs to Israel. You can concentrate on developing real toilets instead of those abonimable filthy holes in the ground that pass for toilets in Turkey. Disgusting, really. Unsanitary -- but that's never really been an issue in Turkey, now, has it? The gas belongs to Israel. Deal with it. Perhaps you might wish to consider calling on your "great good friends" the Iranians. Oh, wait! They're charging you double market price for crude, aren't they? Maybe you need to find yourselves some new "friends." Good luck with that one. Pretty much everyone is sick to death of the Turks That would include Israel.
35. Turkey isnt Iraq ..Sarah B
MilkD ,   USA   (01.04.12)
Let me respond to this lunatic that is always spouting what Israel can do...the answer to that people.....NOTHING..give Turkey a spanking???? Please..which country in that region spanked Israel in the court of opinion without any Israeli response??? Turkey!!! What country threatened to send warships to escort future aid vessels without so much as a peep...don't mistake Israels silence when it comes to TURKEY especially.. as diplomacy..It's called fear..oh when its Iran or Syria or Lebanon...Barak and Bibi are the baddest men in town, BUT why not Turkey?? Really think Sarah??? Who was the Ottoman Empire again? No the real deal is Israel would get spanked ...period..another Israeli hiding behind American pressure...
36. #35 milkd
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.04.12)
You are not wrong. You are TOTALLY wrong. From your post it is obvious you do not know what diplomacy is. Look it up. BTW: Turkey never did get an 'apology' from Israel, did they, re: the attemped illegal breaking of an legal blockade? And your 'court of public opinion' is a kangaroo court as evidenced by the make up of the UN "Human Rights" Commission (quotation marks are intentional). You are in very good company.
37. It was the 12th Mehdi, looking for a
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (01.04.12)
spot to land.
38. Doesn't mighty Turkey have it's own
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (01.04.12)
drones in the sky ?. to fight Israeli drones,what a shame.
39. Sarah
anton ,   Ist turkey   (01.04.12)
Fot starters calm down;) now you really think i am gonna discuss the state of toilets with you?:) you may not realize from your anger driven post but its easy to see that u are attacking turkey with everything you can toilets was your primary target it seems, and yes its partly about gas partly not dont think turkey would let israel and cypruss to exploit gas under its nose;) as for iranians dont worry for turks iranians and israel not that different i dont trust either part:) good night
40. "failed to locate the drone"
William ,   Israel   (01.04.12)
If that's true, then how do they know it was Israeli and not many other drone owners? Infact, doesn't Turkey have some Israeli drones? Wouldn't surprise me in the least if one part of the military didn't know the other had a drone up and about. Just imagine the back story there if they shot down their own drone: "Israel planted a radar masking device that made the drones they sold to the Turkish army look like an Israeli drone, despite the physical characteristics being exactly the same"
41. #33 - Turkey's confrontation on Med gas
William ,   Israel   (01.04.12)
since the fields are far from Turkey's shores, there really is no basis for Turkey's supposed confrontation except greed. Not surprising at all, really. Israel doesn't really trust Turkey either which is why we've found good friends in Cyprus and Greece, especially around the gas you so desperately want as your own. I too doubt Turkey and Israel will stand together, as Turkish leaders want to dominate the region and are inherently Islamist.
42. #35 - note the words "court of public opinion"
William ,   Israel   (01.04.12)
Considering the world climate these days, a grandma from malaysia could do that because ti satisfies the appetites of those who want Israel "spanked". However, in the court of law - where it all really matters - Turkey was spanked royally as was Hamas - when it was ruled that the blockade was legal and the flotilla was illegal and a provocation. That may not be a big deal in the court of public opinion - though many anti-Israel protesters including Erdogan began to heavily foam at the mouth - but it allows Israel hand to move freely in future matters, especially against Turkish invasion of its gas fields, if it were to come to that. And silence doesn't always mean "fear" - well, maybe in the Arab world where false bravado and threats are the norm. But Israeli silence is the reason Arabs become so crazy and spout conspiracy theories...because they can only guess our next step and position.
43. HIS CANCER TREATMENT HAS AFFECTED HIS BRAIN
TRIPP ,   LA PAZ, BOLIVIA   (01.04.12)
THIS LOSER HAS LOST HIS MARBLES,ISRAEL HAS ITS OWN SATELITE OVER TURKEY, WHY WOULD THEY USE A DRONE,THIS GUYS A IDIOT
44. TO REACTION OF NR. 20 AND 29.
A WONDER(SJOERD R.). ,   MULTIVERSE.   (01.04.12)
THANKS FOR YOUR REACTION. I HOPE THAT I WAS CLEAR ENOUGH IN PRINCIPLE, IN THAT CASE, GRADUALLY, AT LAST AND SO ON.
45. #44 sodajerk aka/ Observeer Ajibola
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.05.12)
The only wonder is that you have show up here to talk about, then you can wonder where your teeth went
46. Ynet knows the truth about this incident. Publish it pls.
Ibrahim ,   Turkey   (01.05.12)
The IAF Herons were spotted by Turkish and NATO radars. The incident was reported to the Turkish Chief of the General Staff, Turkish PM's Office, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Presidency and Brussels NATO HQ's. There were clear orders not to activate the Turkish Air Defense batteries as Turkey and Israel were still officially allies under treaty. No soldiers left there command posts as claimed. Furthermore, Herons fly at 30,000 ft +. You cannot make visual identification of Herons from that altitude ground. This is distortion of the facts.
47. To: No. 35
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.12)
Don't talk to me, baby. Talk to Israel's nuclear arsenal. Think we can't? Think we wouldn't? Think again. We have the lovely advantage of the words "Never Again" actually meaning something to us. Given the fact that nuclear physics is essentially a VERY Jewish thing -- do you suppose there just might be something in Israel's arsenal that will come as a great big surprise to the rest of the world? Hmm? For all of the United States' scrambling and vying to take partial credit for all the havoc that Israel's STUXNET, DUQU and TILDED has wrought upon Iran, the fact of the matter is that it is all Israel, and no one else. We don't really trust anyone else (for good reason, I might add). Don't F**K with us. We're not playing. Survival is a very real deal to us, and we do not have to do it on ANYONE else's terms. Keep that in mind, and don't antagonize us unnecessarily. The United States has screwed up the Middle East long enough. Just stay out of our ballpark, okay?
48. To: No. 39
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.12)
I don't think there are enough toilets in Turkey (except for Turkish toilets, and let's not go there) for you to discourse with sufficient education on the topic. I can, however -- and am most willing -- to discuss the state of the Turkish army and air force with you. I suspect that I know considerably more about that than do you. Your hapless air force could not bring down an unmanned drone. What chance do you think you would stand against manned Israeli aircraft? Must I remind you that Israel shot down 82 -- yes, 82 -- Syrian MiGs, most of which were piloted by Russians. Here's a news flash: the Turkish air force is not as good as the Syrian air force, even when piloted by Russians. Get a grip. Israel is the big dog in the Middle East. Whether you like it or not. Sorry, that's just how it is. You need to get used to it. The days of the Caliphate are long, long over. I suggest that Turkey would be far better served working on toilets that civilized people might actually be tempted to use, if need be. That's more Turkey's speed. You need to get used to that, too.
49. To: No. 46
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.12)
Oh, get a grip. NATO radar may have spotted the drone, but -- here's a news flash -- it isn't exactly as if the Turks are allowed to operate NATO weaponry. NATO doesn't trust Turkey, and Turkey is better than being halfway to booted out of NATO. That said, do you seriously think that NATO is a match for Israel? Not hardly, bubbeleh. Not hardly. Israel OWNS all the airspace in the Middle East -- and Turkey. Get used to the idea, because it isn't going to change any time soon. We go where we want. And you can't stop us. Remember OSIRAC?
50. To: William at No. 40
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.12)
Israel did sell Turkey some seriously obsoleted drones. What did P.T. Barnum say? There's a sucker born every minute? The world has no idea. No idea at all.
51. Sarah
anton ,   Ist turkey   (01.05.12)
Sarah do i look like uneductaed rto you?:) i would discuss on every topic with you once you decide to be realistic dont you even read what you post? i know the reason why you think thisway i geniuenly think that if you want to survive you should know whats reality is in middle east, i wont counter what you wrote about all israels might and what she can do nor not for a reason and i understand your fraustration but this is how world is, i have nothing against you :) be well and strong but with real grip of reality you can only see turkish airforce might when we inevitably confront in mediternian sea, untill then i suggets we dont waste our breathe, nice day mam :)
52. #49- Sarah if only dreams were reality.
Ibrahim ,   Turkey   (01.05.12)
(1) NATO is not a separate military entity which fields its own weaponry. NATO is a military alliance in which all member States pool there military resources together. (2) You claim that Israel is stronger than the US, UK, France, Turkey etc combined? I really want the same stuff your on. (3) Up until your combat aircraft fly freely in Turkish Air Space then I will say you OWN Turkish airspace.
53. #44 SJOERD
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.05.12)
YOU WERE CLEAR ENOUGH SUCH THAT YOU HAVE PROVED YOU CARE VERY LITTLE FOR COUNTRIES/ PEOPLE, NOR DO YOU CARE FOR FACTS. YOU ARE IN YOUR OWN FANTASY WORLD. READ OUR POSTS AGAIN UNTIL THEY ARE CLEAR ENOUGH.
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