Livnat, Beit Shemesh mayor butt heads over 'women's chatter' sign
Moran Azulay
Published: 11.01.12, 13:18
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1. Abutbul crawl back in your cave where you belong
Haim ,   TA   (01.11.12)
2. accept it!
wonderful for all   (01.11.12)
3. You go Girl!!!
Zoe ,   Tel Aviv , Israel   (01.11.12)
4. first have self respect then talk
itamar h   (01.11.12)
5. Livnat is correct. Sign and similar needs to be taken down.
Miron ,   USA   (01.11.12)
Sidewalk is public area. Rabeinu broke common law.
6. Toilet Signs
Toilet ,   Toilet Shemesh , Isr   (01.11.12)
Separate Men and women Toilet WC and lavatory signs are illegal and must be taken down . Further more denying women the use of urinals is segregation and discrimination and must be punished . Israeli democracy is threatened by the segregation of toilets.
7. The point here is it's been there for 10 years already
rebecca ,   Modiin   (01.11.12)
any Livnat and others have never had a problem with it before because they had nothing to do with it. Now suddenly there is political gain to be had, so suddenly it's a problem. The issue with the new Orit school is a problem. It has no history of acceptance, the people involved have a problem with the Srikim's behavior, and that needs to be dealt with. But 10 year old signs, leave them in peace.
8. Toilet signs
leah amdur ,   jerusalem   (01.11.12)
Men always try and mock women because we can't use the urinal, we don't mind, they can't give birth to children
9. Rebecca
Simon ,   NY   (01.11.12)
Women had no rights to own property, vote, hold public office... for thousands of years, would you say since it has been this way for so long that we should continue this way? You and your daughters would just go back to being property owned by your father or husband and be vanquished to the sidelines of life! How ridiculous. Poor, poor argument.
10. #9 when women wanted the vote we took it.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (01.11.12)
No man helped us get the vote. No outsiders. Women in Ramat beit shemesh Bet dont mind the signs. They do not want Livnat's interference. When those women want the signs gone, they will do what is necessary. It's not for outsiders to enforce their will on the the women of Ramat Bet Shemech Bet.
11. If I dressed like them, I would go for an operation.
Michael ,   California, USA   (01.11.12)
A gender change operation. But then I would look equally badly without and with a pea nohrit and burka. Being 10 thousand kilometers away is better.
12. #9: Is Ramat Bet Shemesh Bet ...
Mark ,   Maale Adumim, Israel   (01.11.12)
above Israeli laws? But those thugs could have had their sign. The problem is - getting away with minor transgression emboldened them to "greater heroic deeds" - like harassing and attacking women and children. That was the last straw, Now they will pay for their thuggery. Now they will cry like little babies. Let them rot in jail! Only the vilest of scum will spit on little girl! They are disgracing the name of Halacha - and then complain that population feel aversion against Haredim?!
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (01.11.12)
We already knew that fact.
14. 11
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (01.12.12)
A gender change would be good for you Michael-you sound depressed being the way you are.
15. The best of both
Middle Ground ,   Galut , USA   (01.12.12)
There is nothing wrong with posting a courteous request. There is plenty wrong with trying to enforce the request with discourtesy. Let the sign stay. Let people ignore the request without harm if they so choose. All this is obvious. It is the way things would be done in the USA. There is no need for either side to be confrontational.
16. So Hitler was right??
Dovit   (01.12.12)
Is that what you are saying, Toilet Signs? It is okay to segregate a sector of society like HItler did, or like the Haredim are doing? Well, you are 70 years too late!
17. @12 Bekky said it, what part of it you do not understand?
Miron ,   USA   (01.12.12)
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