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New in Modiin Illit: Segregated elevators
Ari Galahar
Published: 18.01.12, 15:06
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1. Oh for G-D's sake
Babishka ,   USA/Mea Shearim   (01.18.12)
This is totally retarded.
2. gender elevator
dr daniel mostrel ,   paris france   (01.18.12)
as a traditionnalist jew male with my kipa , i will take the woman elevator just for saying i am against this segregation ; these haredim are a shame for our faith, this is not halacha this is a fool behaviour
3. BAD REPORTING!
GINGER   (01.18.12)
THIS IS IS EXTREME, BUT MODIIN ILIT IS A HAREDI TOWN, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO TELL THEM HOW TO LIVE. BESIDES, THIS IS NOT EXCLUSION OF WOMAN. THIS IS SEPARATION OF MEN & WOMEN. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
4. too bad
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (01.18.12)
I've had some mutually elevating experiences with women in non-segregated elevators. I guess these Haredi are spoil sports.
5. It only takes one
A Man ,   Bet Shemesh   (01.18.12)
Why not make the new elevator for women only and the old one for men. While we are at it, why not have both elevators be for women and the men can take the stairs. If a man has difficulty taking stairs, then let him take the old elevator if there are no women waiting.
6. Modiin Elite is where new humras
Israeli grandma   (01.18.12)
are regularly being invented, this is not news as such. What is wrong here is that the sane Jewish religion which has kept our people together and brought us back to our ancient homeland is being deformed by novel ideas pertaining to "modesty" which a few extremists attempt to force on the general public. If the segregation of the sexes was an important feature of Jewish law it would have been clearly stated in the Bible. It is not. Even the normative requirement of keeping milk and meat foods separate has been forced out of shape by multiple rabbinical authorisations which in recent years have gone to extremes today most Jerusalem restaurants are Glatt kosher when no meat crosses their thresholds. A further - I can only call it madness - is the multiple rabbinical authorisations on paper table napkins, plastic cutlery, aluminium baking trays etc. Come Pesach and there will be even more of this unnecessary nonsense, putting up the prices of all these products, naturally. It all boils down to more jobs for the boys i.e.kashrus inspectors and of course the fat fee demanded from restaurants and snack bars to be approved as "kosher". I this write as a person who has kept strictly kosher all my life.
7. If passersby removed the stickers, they are not there with
rebecca ,   Modiin   (01.18.12)
local residents consent. I trust the local residents to deal with this, probably by ignoring it. I hope they keep taking down the stickers, and that the invisible initiators run out of money to print more. (why cant Ynet name this segregation initiators if they spoke to them?)
8. ONE TRACK MINDS!!
david ,   uk   (01.18.12)
9. Let the jerks who put up the signs
Dawn ,   Israel   (01.18.12)
take the stairs instead...
10. Not with our consent
local resident ,   brachfeld modin ilit   (01.18.12)
I'm a local resident of Brachfeld, the neighborhood which is serviced by the elevators. I don't know of anyone who actually wants to segregate the elevators. Our buses - the Superbus lines 230 and 330 - aren't "Mehadrin" or segregated and we like it that way. Tell these hooligans to go back to Meah Sharim or Beit Shemesh.
11. 4 Shocking! !
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.18.12)
12. Modiin Ilit may be a "haredi town" but ...
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (01.18.12)
this building is in "one of the city's business centers", which means it's open to the public. Not the haredi public only. And the public isn't bound by haredi rules. Whoever's putting up the signs should be arrested for vandalism. I wonder, have these extremists ever traveled beyond their own cultural bubble? There's no way they could maintain their "modesty" rules out in the real world.
13. Which elevator is for Arabs or Blacks?
Carl ,   USA   (01.18.12)
For that matter, can the "truly observant" comingle with Christians and other non-Jews? Let's get separate buses, elevators, water fountains, restaurants, and stores for ALL groups that are different from haredi men and might cause each other offense. Shameful!!
14. IS Israel slowly becoming apartheid state :) ?!
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (01.18.12)
15. HOOLYWOOD
ZIVRON   (01.18.12)
In Hoolywood films there are alot of sex scenes in lifts but theusuaL behaviour with mixed lifts amongst civilized peoples is good . You can takehave stairs with segregated stairwells a goodsafety measure.
16. and the gouverment?
Ze'ev ,   Nbg, germany   (01.18.12)
The haredi extremists crossing the red line again & again and seems the haredi majority dont want/isnt able to stop them. So the gouvernment should stand up against these bad religious extremists! Where is it? Where is there gouvernment???
17. The word from Modiin Illit is...
Shalom Hartman   (01.18.12)
Everyone is ignoring any "segregation". Noone is prepared to let our city become another Beit Shemesh. One loopy person does not mean a new "law"
18. i commend these men for their...
oferdesade ,   israel   (01.18.12)
... masculinity. god knows it takes more than a ride in an elevator to get MINE going to that extent...
19. nothing else to do
karen ,   israel   (01.18.12)
I say people are so bored in Israel without all the problems we have from the outside, they are looking for things to report on. The person that put the sign up probably works for the same people that paid the girl who started trouble on the bus.
20. Segregated Elevators
Moisha Kapoir ,   Nanuet USA   (01.18.12)
Would be cheaper to use one elevator and Haraidi Men should be required to wear earplugs , a blindfold and handcuffs to avoid any contact. while in the elevator. Problem solved. Oh I forgot the women should wear gloves to avoid touching the men
21. Seregated elevators
Efraim ,   Hungary   (01.18.12)
If this possible in Modiin, then I think, that the mayor of Modiin and the town-councillor are stupid (and coward).
22. Separate elevators
leah amdur ,   jerusalem   (01.19.12)
A pedophiles dream, he only needs a few seconds, mothers tell your children to avoid these elevators
23. #10 & 17 - thank you for commenting, I hope people read it.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (01.19.12)
24. Lifts in Modiin
walace ,   Israel   (01.20.12)
We have every right to force them not to discriminate. BY your logic it would be wrong to tell pedophiles to desist if it were the norm in a given area or town.
25. Separate elevators
Chuck ,   San Francisco, USA   (10.12.12)
It's important that the men get to their homes early on Erev Shabbat, so they can get started on singing "Eshet Chayil."
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