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Riots in Mea Shearim, Beit Shemesh over police raid
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 15.01.12, 23:51
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31. Have they yet been judged guilty?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.15.12)
So far ,we can learn from them SOLIDARITY.
32. Everything needs new leadership
Robert ,   NY USA   (01.15.12)
One thing the Haredi, Right, Leftists, Secular, whatever... all have in common, is the leaders are all corrupt and point fingers at each other to devert attention. Their people follow them like a cult instead of the ideas they are supposed to based on.
33. #19
Alon Frank ,   Beit Shemesh   (01.15.12)
True they shouldn't include all Hareidim in this article,but these thugs dress themselves as orthodox jews and are expected to be a role model for Judaism. So why didn't the sane hareidim stand up against these thugs?
34. Rioting in support of corruption
John ,   Hamilton, ON   (01.15.12)
What high ideals!
35. Ora , 31 . Solidarity with criminals !
Charles ,   petach Tikva   (01.15.12)
Very nice !
36. ORA ,31 , learn solidartity with criminals ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.15.12)
Is that the tora way ?
37. The case is clear!
Ben ,   Israel   (01.15.12)
Police tried to rob the charedim of the donations they receive from abroad. They make a special background for the rise of Lapid and ensure his success at the future elections.
38. 35 Charles SUSPECTED "criminals"
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.15.12)
Little difference!
39. 36 Charles Tora way...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.15.12)
Believe in innocence of suspects until proof of their guilt.
40. According to the Torah
Moses Kovach ,   Beooklyn New York   (01.16.12)
restitution must be the price plus 1/5 or price plus twenty percent. If they are consciable they should pay up tot the Higher Law they claim to represent
41. Reply #26 Zionist for ever. Lapid for PM
Haim ,   TA   (01.16.12)
Please please harideem carry on rioting let the Israeli public see you for what you are " a bunch of rioting thugs, who dont work dont pay tax and dont serve in the army" but hope is on the way, Yair Lapid will rise to power and you and your ilk will be inf or some dramatic life style changes - Amen
42. #31, Of course they are guilty and they know no solidarity.
Michael ,   California, USA   (01.16.12)
State of Israel has plenty of evidence they are guilty and all of this will come up in court. Worry not, they will not be punished if they are not guilty. They would not have been arrested if there was no factual proof. What solidarity are you talking about, have been talking about for so long? As a woman, just because you are a woman, you are not admitted to be in solidarity with them, cannot even sit next to them in a bus. As a self-appointed commentator on this tb you are rejected by them as too "modern." As a mother in law, your role is limited to helping with raising grandchildren, helping your daughters who can not even pray with their husbands on Yom Kippur. No matter how hard you try, you have no chance among the Eda Haredit, you will be outside of their mainstream always. Recognize the facts: the Eda Haredit only knows solidarity among themselves, the males, and you cannot penetrate their ranks. They are society's rejects, always were.
43. 100% couldnt aggree with you more
Naftules ,   Jerusalem   (01.16.12)
also a dati man , this drives me crazy to such blatant disregard. its a real hillul hashem.
44. guilty until proven innocent?
Jerusalem resident ,   Jerusalem   (01.16.12)
Did anyone notice an important paragraph in the story: "Shapira was eventually released from custody after the Jerusalem Magistrates' Court said there was no evidence against him." NO EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM! Everyone is awfully quick to believe these people are "criminals." Guilty until proven innocent? This is nothing but politically motivated persecution.
45. Ora , months of investigation !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.16.12)
They were arrested after months of investigation , not after someone thinks that they are guilty . And i don't think that the police arrested them without proofs or at least SERIOUS suspicions . But , does the tora say that you have to riot when police arrests some very suspect ? Does the tora say you have to endanger people's lives when someone is arrested [ oil on the street ] ?
46. 45 Charles, i would be confident ..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
in the justice,if there was not so much hate involved.I need PROOFS. The oil on the roads are more likely the work of hooligans disguised in Haredim.
47. 42 Michael,we both believe...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
what we want to believe. You admit what i said,that they know solidarity among themselves. I live among the Haredi,and i see with my own eyes,the love and respect women feel for their husbands,and this is MUTUAL. At home there is no separation between husband and wife. No Haredi wife would dream to change their husband with a secular one.Even more they are ready to work so hard ,because they want their husbands to beTorastudents They feel pride of them.
48. #47, you live in an illusion, converted garbage to mysticism
Michael ,   California, USA   (01.16.12)
Harediot women are nothing like what you describe. It's the same with Muslim women living within their burkas; their spirituality is hidden by the burkas from the outside world, from their husbands especially. Read some literature that has has come out from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Read some books that women from those countries wrote, that they smuggled to the west risking their lives. Women there hate their husbands. Read the National Geographic article in 2011 about young brides. The mysticism you've created for yourself, the one you are defending, is nothing but exploitation. God is invoked to cover up the garbage. It is your choice along with your daughters to be exploited. But beyond this, why are you also protecting thieves and tax evaders? What does it have to do with the love of a Haredia?
49. 33 Alon Why dont the sane secular..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
don t stand up against alcohol among children,to begin with at at Barmizva parties.The alcohol plague at the IDF is a consequence of that.
50. ORA , Hooligans ? Yes but charidim !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.16.12)
Disguised as charidim ? Are you serious ? Hate on one side , disguised on the other one , what will be your next invention ? Proofs ? months of investigation by serious police forces .
51. protecting the thieves
Jon ,   TelAviv   (01.16.12)
so they are in kahouts with the thieves? Throw them all in jail- . The religious Mafia!
52. Ora 47 . They don't know better
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.16.12)
their mothers have lived this way . Happy ? i told you already about a friend of me , a femenine doctor , who worked in our birth town . When i once said that those women look happy , she said : how wrong you are , many cry at my consultations , they have nobdy to taslk to , only me .
53. Not a chillul Hashem, #12, just chillul fanatics
Vered, Israel   (01.16.12)
54. 50 Charles My next invention ....
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
might be: An "Invention Detector". As a present for you.Lol.
55. 41
zionist forever   (01.16.12)
Yair Lapid has nothing worthwhile to contribute other than hate and I am not a haredi. What II do want to end the haredi/ secular feud which is tearing this country apart and the secular population are no better than haredi. This lot rioting over the arrest of suspected criminals are rioting for no good reason but the feud in general can be solved if BOTH side want it to and right now I don't see either side making any great efforts.
56. 48 Michael Haredi women same as ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
Muslim women? If this is true then enlightened men are like their ancestors apes,who live in trees and uses their tails for balance.Lol.
57. 55 Zionist forever This feud ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
dates from the first secular Jews who broke with Judaism and were thus rejected by their parents and the Haredi society.This hate ,inherited by their descendants is still burning.
58. 52 Charles They don t know better..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
How could they? There is no better.
59. Ora , you know what i mean with
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.16.12)
they don't know better . And try to understand what this doctor said to me , not such great family life that they have . Bringing flowers for shabbat does'nt mean anything .
60. 59 Charles, if this little flower...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.16.12)
i send you makes you smile,may be we should not underestimate the power of flowers. Good night Charles.
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