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49%: Excuse troops from listening to women
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Published: 26.01.12, 07:31
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1. A Saying from Sweden -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.26.12)
" Lika barn leka bäst " !. Translated Word by Word . " Like (same sort) Children(Born) plays best " !. This controversy is made to a storm in a warerglas, and wholly unessessary. Listening to singing is not part of Military education as I know of. This conflict is easyly solved, let the listerners listen if they want, and the nonelisteners not listen. This conflict is sheer Foolishness and Idiocy, for the sake of conflict only Arn.Sweden.
2. I don't see the problem but.......
Moshe ,   Jerusalem   (01.26.12)
I agree that if a soldier has a problem to listen to the voice of a women singing he should be excused but as a religious Jew myself I would be upset if my son asked to be excused as I personally don't have a problem to hear something that is a creation of Hashem. The next thing will be that soldiers will not want to take orders from women officers, where does it stop. But to add as long as these singers are modestly dressed it should not be a problem and since these women are wearing uniform then this is no problem.
3. ore seculars (51%) believe religious soldiers should be forc
Trumpeldor   (01.26.12)
FORCED to hear women singing ?? Are you all nuts ???
4. Stop the singing by soldiers!
jason white ,   afula, israel   (01.26.12)
Let them do jobs like real soldiers. You want to sing, go do it in the shower or with friends. If someone wants to listen to music, there are other ways besides live performances.And soldiers should not be forced to go to entertainment if they do not want to. When I was in the I.D.F. we were too tired, hungry or in need of a shower and did not have time for that nonsense. However not listening or taking orders from a female office should result in a 30 day in an army jail.
5. Moshe #2
Shuki ,   the North   (01.26.12)
Why not eat pork, it's a Creation of Hashem, so are cheeseburgers. Why not sleep with a prostitute? She's a Creation of Hashem and just trying to make a living...in fact acording to your logic, it's probly even Tzadakah to use her services. If you actually are even in some way Torah Observant as you claim to be, you have just proved that YOU are SO open-minded that Your Brain has Fallen Out."
6. The problem is not singing but the terrible voice
Erik ,   Kfar Saba   (01.26.12)
of these so-called singers from privilaged families, like Kam.
7. So
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (01.26.12)
So the polls show that many Secular people are fanatical and intolerant, wanting to force others to do things against their will. What do they want? Capture the "Taliban women" and forcibly strip them? Tie religious people to a chair and force them to listen to third-rate singers? I have an idea: steal the religious people's children and give them to seculars, or spray them with DDT and cut their peyot....oh yeah, the Leftists did that already.
8. When did IDF become a Glee Club?
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.26.12)
The purpose of the IDF is to defend the people and the state of Israel, not to launch somebody's show business career. You want more religious soldiers in the IDF then don't create a hostile environment for them. On the other hand: scientific studies have shown that singing together (not attending performances where one group sings and another group is the audience) helps unit cohesiveness.
9. #4 I've been saying the same forever..however clearly
Al   (01.26.12)
the uber secular have a warped agenda. They are running a kulterkamf against all things Jewish. The present day Israel soldier recruit is poorly trained and poorly disciplined. My sons tell this all the time. Its scary as the IDF is the only thing that keeps Israel from being throtled to death by the enemy. The IDF should stop playing BS PC games and get on with training if its soldiers. Its soldiers must be taught to kill the enemy...That should be job 1. The army is not a social engineering experiment.
10. rerun?
robert ,   TelAviv   (01.26.12)
wasn't this survey posted last week too? No reaction? These guys really need to talk- an army where any soldier can walk out and refuses anything- what kind of army is this? kindergarden? An army should protect the country not cater to every Tom Dick or Harry... "no Sir, I don't feel like shooting someone today? I can't stand guard- I have to pray? " Next thing some soldiers will refuse because there is NO singing? Will the IDF cave in and excuse them too? Can't wait- Jews are their own worst enemies.
11. Nr 10.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.26.12)
In the Civil War in former Yugoslavia, The Bosnianserbian government, in the Peoples assemblys Morningsession, always began with prayers. How old are You - You seems so unmatured in your comment, full of unmatured orejudgement. By - !. Arn. Sweden.
12. Issue is not "soldiers" but "officers"
Miron ,   USA   (01.27.12)
Religious "soldier" can leave cultural events against faith. Officer's bar is different. As long as what he is asked is mere presence at cultural event, he has no right to exception on religious grounds. Because his duties do not end with orders. He represents the whole of Israel. We cannot have representatives who can refuse to show up. Perhaps they can find comfort and inspiration in our Arab Israeli neighbors. Most of them Muslim or Christians, very few are Jewish by faith. And yet they stand with us and stand by our country, no matter who is singing or what.
13. Shuki#5
Z ,   jerusalem   (02.18.12)
Hear, hear! I don't think you could've expressed it better
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