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Our leftist Holocaust deniers
Ziv Tidhar
Published: 02.02.12, 18:02
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1. The "Jew only" Holocaust is a lie, 11 to 17 million died
Steven Benassi ,   Silver Bay,   (02.02.12)
...through systematic extermination at the hands of the Nazis, and a total of 60 million died during the war. Look it up on Wikipedia.
2. one of the worst twisted Israel and Jew hate
Jerome ,   Basalt, Colorado   (02.02.12)
comes from the saxophone playing Gilad Atzmon that lives in London. The anti Israel left non Jews that tries to hide their Jew hatered love him because he was born in Israel and born a Jew. If you have ever heard this hateful twisted sax player talk about Israel and Jews you would think he is from the original nazi party!
3. Holocaust denial
Dauod ,   Ramallah   (02.02.12)
I used to question the Holocaust. We are told it isn't real in school. When I went to university in Germany I took a tour of the camps in Poland and Germany and it was like a blinder being lifted before your eyes. An old woman from Canada with the numbers on her arm walked with me through Auschwitz-Berkenau and told me what it was like. I will never forget her. We can't have peace with Israelis if we deny their history.
4. "Ziv Tidhar is an architect and radio announcer" Enough said
(02.02.12)
5. Holocaust
jeff ,   MIAMI/JERUSALEM   (02.02.12)
All Holocaust deniers will suffer the same fate
6. Holocaust denial
Bertram ,   London, UK   (02.02.12)
This is a sad article which, through its shallow commentary, contributes to the trivialization of the Holocaust. The manner in which the writer merely throws slogans into the air without citing any sources for his assertions is simply bad journalism. Make no mistake, the very uniqueness of the Shoah as deliberate, industrialized extermination means that comparison with other events is obscene. Each tragedy is experienced uniquely, not in relation to other tragedies. Consequently, Holocaust recognition should not detract from a recognition of the Nakba. Your recognition of my pain does not entail my denial of your pain.
7. dont you guyz think death is bad enuf without...
oferdesade ,   israel   (02.02.12)
.... hijacking it for your own petty politix? enuf if some infantile idjit must write words to justify his lead, nobody needs to cooperate and talkback
8. #3 Daoud
Dan ,   CH   (02.02.12)
I wish you could be a light for your people. Only persons who like you are educated about the true (also ancient) history and the centuries-old tragedies of the Jewish people in the Diaspora, culminated in the Shoah, can really understand Israel. Palestinians need a new generation of intellectuals and politicians able to reach peace with the Jewish state, not the rotten leaderships that they have today.
9. #1 Benassi the Holocaust denier
Cynthia ,   USA   (02.02.12)
The Holocaust refers to the systematic genocide of Jews by the Nazis and their sympathizers. It's not a lie. No one disputes millions of other people were murdered during this time.
10. @ #1 - Steve Ben-ass-i
Michael Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (02.02.12)
No one ever claimed "exclusivity" as Holocaust victims. There were almost 1 million Gypsies, 3 million Poles, several million Russians and hundreds of thousands of citizens from almost all the German occupied countries. The idea of a "Jew-only Holocaust" is the product of a diseased mind. There is, however, the fact that no other ethnic group was singled out as targets with the all-encompassing thoroughness, except possibly Gypsies.
11. Obama the Muslim is to blame for the denial
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.02.12)
12. No. 1 - you forgot to mention something
Faith ,   Israel   (02.02.12)
Yes many millions died during WWII, but the only ones who were systematically designated for Total Annihilation by the Nazi butchers - were the Jews. Fact. That was the ultimate goal of the German Nazis. I read it in history books.
13. Haredim not Fighters
zivron   (02.02.12)
The Haredim gassed were definetly not fighters and either was most of Polish Jewry. The Poles generally hated the Jews them and wanted ninety percent out to anywhere but Poland but as good catholics where not for yet not against genocide just like Pope Pius. Jews who converted to catholicism would generally be hidden accepted by most poles despised by nazis and understood by assimilationist jews but hated by the haredim in general . I did not see Trotskyites at irans holocaust conference just neonazis and the Neuteri Karta who at least validated the Holocaust .The Holocaust was out on its own in evil but some kapos bought themseves out in disgusting ways and other peoples have suffered terribly mass murders torture abominable crimes not only jews .Rwanda Armenia The class enemies throughout the ussr particularly in the ukraine pol pot and horrible murders and injuries in iraq.But its not only the left thats a real distortion .In the usa there are real nasty neonazis like stormfront . Jews rise up take revenge nokeam daam yisroel.
14. the Holocaust started in America
ben   (02.02.12)
the eugenics movement in America in the first half of the 20th century laid down all the ideas for the extermination of undesirable elements in the population right down to public gas chambers , believe it or not. The Germans were simply following the American lead. Eventually they surpassed it. But the eugenics movement in the USA had in mind the extermination of 90% of the population including Jews. And they did get started on the mentally ill and defectives, and blacks. Its a fascinating historical fact which is glossed over because America won the war. No wonder America could not decide whether to support Britain against Germany or let her sink!
15. Holocaust PTSD
Lawrence A Dickerson ,   Bremerton,US   (02.02.12)
People subjected to extreme stress usually experience and suffer from a condition called Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) which is a severe anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to any event that results in psychological trauma. There can be no recovery or healing by living in the past.There needs to be much effort in the healing efforts of those involved as victims,families,communities and health professionals.The perpetual victimhood of those involved with the Shoah is detrimental and serves no purpose but to generate money,approximately 100 million dollars a year.That my friends is at the very core of this traumatic exercise.
16. Jews represent 1/10 of people killed in WW2
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (02.02.12)
What about the 90% that are left??? Why gays or tzigans don't use the holocaust to achieve their agenda?
17. #12 inaccurate
(02.03.12)
the Nazis planned to exterminate the inhabitants of large areas of land in eastern europe and resettle it with Germans. All ''undesirables'' were eliminated or slated for elimination by the Nazis. This included communists, homosexuals, gypsies , mentally ill or defective, the physically disabled and Russian prisoners of war. The motive was to breed a strong race of blond haired Aryans free of weak individuals in accordance with the same eugenics movement principles already developed and partially put into practice in the USA.
18. to 3 ,you are one in a million
UNCLE JOE ,   CONN USA   (02.03.12)
THANK YOU .YOU ARE A GOOD MAN AN INTELLIGENT ONE .GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS WITH GOOD HEALTH, HAPPINESS, AND A LONG LIFE .
19. TO NUMBER 1
UNCLE JOE ,   CONN USA   (02.03.12)
REALLY benassi .wow and wow again .i never heard of such thing .i really really thought ,up to now that ONLY THE JEWS were killed in world war 2 .do you get all the information ,and obviously very deep knowlege from WIKIPEDIA . i am really impressed .please please mr bonanza tell me where i can find this wiki piki thing .THANK YOU FOR THE RARE INFO .GOD BLESS YOU TOO ,you're VERY SPECIAL , yet another genius , VERY CHALLENGED ,like mr mahmoood ,and the egyptian soccer observer ,noor, and salami too.
20. deniers of holocaust
naim p ,   miami florida usa   (02.03.12)
the holocaust happened and it is a crime against humanity, i'm an evangelical christian of lebanese origin but understand the suffering of any human who was created like me by the Holy One
21. No. 17 - I beg to differ...
Faith ,   Israel   (02.03.12)
Yes the Nazis wanted to take over the world. Yes they wanted to ethnically "cleanse" Europe and reign as full blooded Aryans. Yet, the only group that was specifically designated for TOTAL annihilation were, again - the Jews. In Hitler's mind, the Jews were responsible for all of Germany's woes, etc. And then unfortunately, he decided to throw in other "undesirables" that he detested. And of course, this included Russian POW's, homosexuals, Gypsies, mentally ill, Catholic Poles, etc. But the hate and killing started with the Jews, and was Hitler's main goal and the one on which he was most focused. I read all about it in "The Final Solution". You may find Hitler's original ideas documented in "Mein Kampf".
22. A fictional state can't have a "national tragedy".
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.03.12)
It is disheartening to see Jews adopt the language of our genocidal enemies. Palestine is a fictional state, like Oz and Neverland. It has never existed. So how can it have a "national tragedy"?
23. israel exists for Jews so we can have an army finally.
roxanne ,   haifa/san francisco   (02.03.12)
24. Israel was established in 1920 San Remo Conference
Golan ,   modiin   (02.03.12)
the British got a mandate from the conference to eventually give all of Palestine (that would be Jordan and Israel today) to the Jews. This piece of international law was ratified by the League of Nations which changed its name to the United Nations. The holocaust has nothing to do with the establishment of Israel. Israel was a fact before there was a UN, and before Hitler came to power. The only thing missing was morality. The British immorally and illegally denied entry to Jews trying to escape the horrors in Europe and cowtowed to Arab violence in 1920, 1921, 1928, 1936, and 1940's. Worse still is Israeli education system does not teach history but bullshit. Why? Because the Marxist Left wants people to think that kibbutzim established the state. (in other words "Practical" Zionism was the solution rather than the more potent "political" Zionism.)
25. Holocaust denial is denying the holocaust.
Jacob   (02.03.12)
Calling people who are not in any way, shape or form denying the holocaust, bu t only drawing lessons from it which you consider to be ill-conceived, "holocaust deniers" is well beyond the bounds of civilized discourse, it's also factually wrong - a black lie, in fact.
26. #15 Mr. Dickerson
Logic ,   Israel   (02.03.12)
1. US courts award standard and punitive damages all the time for much lesser crimes than genocide. Once regular Americans stop receiving millions of dollars in court settlements for a cup of spilled hot coffee and slips on the neighbor's sidewalk is the day you can come and talk about others restitution payments. 2. If you haven't noticed, Jews and Israelis are the last to be pigeonholed in the "perpetual victimhood" niche. Countless Jewish survivors dusted themselves off and started over with new productive lives in the US and Israel against all odds. I suggest you stop and think for a minute how amazing these people coped with the cards they were dealt with. Seriously, imagine yourself succeeding or even scraping by in life as an orphan and war refugee!
27. #15 Provide verifyable numbers
Logic ,   Israel   (02.03.12)
Your 100 million dollars a year quote is not backed up by a verifiable source. Sorry, Finkelstein doesn't count.
28. Without EXTERMINATION: World Jewry AND Zionism MUCH STRONGER
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (02.03.12)
29. The Children of the Lie !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (02.03.12)
I Quote - Our leftist Holocaust deniers. Comment - I have read this Book - http://www.amazon.com/Commandant-Auschwitz-Autobiography-Rudolf-Hoess/dp/1842120247 How anybody sane Person can denie the Holocoast is beyond me, they must be Possessed by the other One. Arn.Sweden.
30. #21 research eugenics
(02.03.12)
Research the role of eugenics movement in Nazi Germany. Although its true that Hitler had more than one reason for wanting to be rid of Jews , they were eliminated as part of a wider eugenics program which also targeted the groups I mentioned earlier. As I say, you can verify this by learning about the role of the eugenics movement in America and Nazi Germany. Its not a history the Americans like to advertize. I have read the book you mention, yes.
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