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Raising the stakes on Iran
Alex Fishman
Published: 05.02.12, 22:20
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1. THESE MEANINGLESS THREATS
LAWRENCE BADEN FOUL ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (02.05.12)
Fool no one ,especially not Iran . Iran does while the u.s. and Israel blow bubbles of hot air and cheap meaningless talk.
2. " RAISING THE STEAKS ON IRAN "
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (02.05.12)
This is no time to be contemplating a barbecue.
3. Stop talking and start bombing
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.05.12)
I'm not suggesting that Israel, USA or anyone else for that matter should initiate surgical operations or surgical strikes to remove the cancer within Iran. IRAN IS THE CANCER. REMOVE IRAN from this world. Am I suggesting that it's ok to bomb every square inch of Iran with nukes even if that means 70-80 million Iranians will travel to "the other side"? Am I suggesting that the complete annihilation of another country is ok? YES, if that country happens to threaten Israel with annihilation, I see no moral or ethical problem finishing off 70-80 million Iranians. There are innocent people in Iran? Too bad, too bad. Either pack your bags, get rid of this crazy regime in Teheran or prepare for your country's final hour. Israel shouldn't spare the lives of innocent Iranians at the expense of the lives of 6 million Jews in Israel. Bullshit time is over. Israel bombing Iran into oblivion is a strong and loud message to the entire human race: don't mess with Israel - period. If other nations can see for themselves that Israel is capable of turning an enemy state into a parking lot for camels and donkeys or a radioactive wasteland, it means that the rest of the world will finally understand that Israel has the means, the resources and the will power to destroy it's enemies without mercy or pardon, day and night, until that enemy state is finally history. This psychological message has to "sink in" in the collective mind of the world. Never again means never again. Never again will Jews be unarmed defenseless sheep ready for another Holocaust, Spanish Inquisition or Russian pogroms. Never again!
4. Iran will not back down...so the path of
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (02.05.12)
the events now unfolding, should be pretty clear...
5. BRAISING THE STEAKS ON IRAN
LAWRENCE BADEN FOUL ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (02.05.12)
This is no time to be thinking about food.
6. Alexander from Tel Aviv: I am in solid
RobertHaymond ,   Israel/Canada   (02.06.12)
agreement! The underlying archetype for us Jews is, and must be, "Never Again" and survival no matter what the consequences to others. The day of liberal, politically correct Judaism is gone with the advent of Iranian threats to anniliate us. It's actually helpful that someone from Tel Aviv, the centre of Israeli political correctness, is on track. Thanks.
7. iran
spookey ,   birmingham uk   (02.06.12)
so the sand diggers are getting very brave , so either put up or shut up
8. Look at Syria and contemplate...
Tom ,   USA   (02.06.12)
Iran -- just like Syria -- is under Soviet/Russian protection. Once Putin loudly says that "hands off Iran" all these Western mixture of speculations, wishful thinking, bravadoes etc. will cease. It will happen in the next week so don't conjure up unrealistic scenarios. Assad will stay and the Iranian saga will proceed toward an unforeseeable calamity. As soon as the Russians are into anything, the worse will happen. Prepare for it.
9. #5 but Rosh Pina the best falafels in the whole mid-east
Jerome ,   Basalt , Colorado   (02.06.12)
10. Raising the stakes on Iran
Dave In Arizona ,   USA   (02.06.12)
While the US and Israel are strutting and fretting on the state accomplishing nothing Iran is doing. Time for the US and Israel to poop or get off the pot!
11. EXCELLENT #3! I wish I too could say
Israeli 2   (02.06.12)
these things and get PUBLISHED here on YNet!
12. The insane religious fanatics of iran are saying they will
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (02.06.12)
do what hitler tried to do but failed. If the US or Israel does not ELIMINATE the iranian nuke program, iran will not only attack Israel and start WW3 but give dirty bombs to terrorists all over the world. Stop iran NOW or see the free world destroyed by terrorist scum.
13. Be careful US&Israel!Such intensity of threats can make you
tom ,   tel aviv   (02.06.12)
faint if you don't drink enough..... I am sure that after this round of brave threat-making, the leaders of our countries shall have to go for a well deserved vacations in Acapulco!
14. #3 Alexander in TA
Old Jim   (02.06.12)
The problem is, you are threatening the Iranians with annihilation just as they are threatening you. You are no better, not a tiny little bit. Sorry. Oh pleeease, and don't come with 'they started it', Kid.
15. Meaningless
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (02.06.12)
Threats are meaningless because the Iranians believe they will be worse off without nukes. They saw what happened in Iraq, Libya and North Korea and know that they need nukes as insurance against the US. It is now crystal clear how stupid Obama was when he supported Ahmadinejad during the Green Revolution.
16. #1-7: Well, Iran is saying 'Bring it on'
TaylorT ,   Earth   (02.06.12)
So as the Americans say, 'either put up or shut up.' You've done your whining to the world, you've done your chest-thumping to Iran, and you've done your begging to the US....now what are you going to do? If I had to guess it would be more whining, more chest-thumping, and more begging...
17. AND SWEAT THEY DO!
(02.06.12)
Teheran's crazy threats and religios hallucinations are proof of that. Hamas and Hezbollah will witnesses the shameful Teheran dictators defeat and will witness their execution too. Another Jihad will fail and keep Muslim tyrants in check for 1,000 years, or until they obliterate each other.
18. To: Alexander at No. 3
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.06.12)
ATTABOY!! You articulate the sentiments of a great many of us.
19. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.06.12)
Stop whining. We will. Just like we did when we destroyed the Osirac reactor in Baghdad. Ten years later, of course, the United States found itself embroiled in the Gulf War. What kind of a war do you think THAT would have been had Israel allowed Iraq to become nuclear power? Shut your mouth and show a little gratitude to Israel, for all the American service personnel who did NOT come home in body bags, thanks to Israel. Stop whining, okay? Stop leaving it to tiny Israel to fix all of your messes. We've had quite enough of that.
20. To: No. 14
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.06.12)
But they did, didn't they? We've had to deal with over thirty years of rhetoric out of Teheran threatening to destroy the Jewish State. Whatever will you do when we decide to take it seriously? Hmmmmm?
21. All watch & wait on the big dog
Cameron ,   USA   (02.06.12)
Everything hinges upon the big dog moving. As always.
22. Most Iranians Are Pro-Western. Destroy the leadership...
Ron ,   Seattle USA   (02.06.12)
not the innocent civilians.
23. To nr 14 - Old Jim
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.06.12)
If you fail to see the difference between good and evil and between right and wrong and if you see no difference between unprovoked attacks and death threats on one hand, and self defense, then we have nothing to talk about. Yes, the Iranians started it and we will finish it. There is nothing immoral or strangeabout that. The alternative of course would be if Iran would treaten Israel and Israel would willingly commit collective suicidewhich of course would please an anti-Semite such as yourself. If you say that there is no difference between the aggressor and the defender, then there is no reason to voice criticism against self defense, yet despite your moral relativism you still take the side against Israel, ignoring completely that Iran seeks war with Israel whereas Israel seeks no war but has to defend itself in order to live - to be alive - something very fundamental. When you Old Jim are being attacked unprovokedly by someone else and you respond then I can moralize too on your violence. I can essentially say, little kid, that there is no difference between the burglar and murderer braking into your home threatening your wife and kids on one hand, and you threatening the intruder. If you fail to express any shred of decency or sympathy or empathy then you have truly lost your human soul. And that's what it means to be an anti-Semite. There is good and evil in this world. And anti-Semitism is evil to the core and indifference to human suffering and the sanctity of human life which you have painfully obvious expressed in here proves to me that you are an evil, bad, immoral, hateful person. And you have the nerves to moralize over Jewish right to exist, Jewish self defense, and you have the nerves to moralize to me and lecture me about human decency? Clean up your backyard first. You're hardly a saint - rather the opposite.
24. only a nuclear strike against Iran
yonatan silverman ,   tel aviv israel   (02.06.12)
a conventional strike is a joke it has no purpose or logic and will only bring down iranian revenge - no - we must hit Iran with nukes and hit them hard this will cause a massive psychological reaction that will reverberate for years and cause the radical musllim terrorists in the world to cool off
25. ''ISRAEL'', THE UNITED STATES, IRAN AND SO ON...
A WONDER-S.R. ,   MULTIVERSE   (02.06.12)
IN PRINCIPLE, ALSO IN THAT CASE, VIVA TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AND TO EVERY OTHER PEOPLE OF THE ENTIRE HUMANITY AND OF THE FAMILY OF MANKIND EVERYWHERE,( ALWAYS) A.S.O...
26. Alexander
Old Jim   (02.07.12)
You want to annihilate 80 million Iranian civilians (that includes probably somewhat 30 million children) as a response to an Iranian threat. You want to murder 30,000,000 children because their president says things you don't like. You want to do it now, in advance, not as a retaliation to an Iranian strike and at the same time you're babbling about 'morality' and that 'I lost my human soul'. Good God!
27. #24, Nuclear strike with words?
Michael ,   California, USA   (02.07.12)
So far Israel has not shown any nuclear weapon capability. Saying vague things about having it does not prove much. Real tests of nuclear weapons are mandatory before a weapon can be used. So, conventional strike is all Israel can deliver at this time.
28. Stop talking and start bombing
alex ,   Harlingen. Texas   (02.07.12)
Stand tall Israel! Stand strong Israel !Never again should you as a people cower down to any hooligan nation.
29. # 26
carlos ,   San Diego U.S.A.   (02.07.12)
yes, they should be bombed. That should have been the strategy with Hitler and millions of people would not have perished. The Iranians have the responsibility of their genocidal government by electing jerks, just like the Germans did in the 1930. But you don't understand anything. Go and live in Iran!
30. No PERSONAL&NATIONAL annihilation:VICTORY,BIG ISRAEL,BALANCE
Jerry to #14&23 ,   The Netherlands   (02.07.12)
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