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Abbas is no moderate
Dan Calic
Published: 16.02.12, 11:16
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1. PA maps show ALL Israel as Palestine& incite against peace.
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (02.16.12)
2. Most Pals DO NOT want peace& Hamas says NEVER!
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (02.16.12)
3. Agree, totally.
Beary White ,   Norway   (02.16.12)
Abbas, as the rest of the arab-population in the world, do NOT accept ANY other religion than islam. So why discuss and negotiate? Abbas has denied holocost and will never accept Israel. There is no reason for any peace talks. Move the arabs to the country made for the pals, Jordan or Pakistan, which are already filled with violence done by muslims.. The rest, hamass and hizbolla, should go to Libya where the desert is big and they can help each other to be martyrs.
4. If no Jewish State talks are wordless
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (02.16.12)
I have allways stated if Alfatah doesnot recognize Israel and Abbas plays with words through the PA. He has a double speach One for the Quartet and noe for the palestinians. I cannot understan why Israel and the rest of the world keep on loosing their sleep., with these nonsense talks. Israel should anex the parts he consideres will remain part of Israel, anex for the second time East Jerusalem and finish with this. The rest, FINISH THE WALL Expell those Arab-Israelies who consider their loyalty to Palestine first . Arafat and Abbas were both given numerous ways to come to agreement, they rejected it and still Israel is the guilty one. Without the characterization of Israel as Jewish State which is what the UN approved in 1947..The Partition of Palestine in an Arab state and a JEWISH STATE. There is no sense in these talks if Israel is not accepted as a Jewish state. Israel is not demanding nothing new. With Hamas at least there is no Double talk, they just say no acceptance of Israel all is Palestine. With Abbas between the PA and Al Fatah there is a double talk. The final aim is the same as that of HAMAS. ...... NO ISRAEL...
5. We know that! When will our elected leaders aknowledge it
tom ,   tel aviv   (02.16.12)
in public? Otherwise it's just preaching to the choir...
6. Hillary described Assad recently as a "MODERATE"
Alan ,   SA   (02.16.12)
7. Its not that Abbas is extreme
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (02.16.12)
Hes just indecisive and dithering...as to an extent is Netanyahu Much easier for him to 'dive and duck' the issues and enjoy the limelight than get down to serious negotiations Ive always maintained that the best solution is to drive the process forward from the Bottom Up... For communities and individuals and businesses to strengthen cooperation OPENLY at all levels. After all we are all just a handshalke away
8. Got it, Palestinians bad, Israelis good...
Nour ,   One-State   (02.16.12)
I cannot even fathom the arrogance and one-sidedness of this article. Not worth a second of thought.
9. Nour ......
Aryeh ,   Israel   (02.16.12)
Nour, Do you have anything substantive to say? Indeed the article is one sided because the issue is one sided. The "Palestinians" as they are so called, have been trying to destroy Israel since the Jews returned to their ancestrial homeland. The "Palestinian"constitution calls for Israel's destruction. Abbas and other leaders espouse it, and the majority of the general Arab population, to be more accurate, supports this postion. Nour, a little bit of honesty, the so called peace process is and always was a farce; it was only a guise to destroy Israel as mandated in their constitution. I salute the author of the article for calling it what it is. The article
10. Its not 'BREAKING NEWS' and no surprise. [end]
BUTSeriously ,   Sydney   (02.16.12)
11. LEPERS DON'T CHANGE SPOTS...do they abbass?
JEWISH DOCTOR ,   AMERICA THE BEAUTIUL   (02.16.12)
ONCE A JEW DESPISING TERRORIST ALWAYS A JEW DESPISING TERRORIST... It's no secret, Abbass was always an extreme terror monger for 40 years, and in his heart he wants ALL JEWS GONE, dead or alive, now not later...Abbass wants to push out Arafrat and steal the position of the "founder" of the INVENTED people's make believe state of PALESTINE...should really be called PALA-STEAL... Abbass will be gone in less than 200 days, by his own hand. Thanks to those brilliant delightful, dreamy guys in hamass.
12. 8-the truth always hurts
Eyal ,   USA Israel   (02.16.12)
Can you share a light to why you think this article is one sided? Do you accept Israel as a Jewish State living side by side with the Palestinians? Unless you do, I think it is time for Jordanian held passport to return to your homeland (Jordan).
13. re: #1 maps
forehead1 ,   usa   (02.16.12)
perhaps you could provide the "official" map that israel claims. i am certain it is the same one that the pals use.
14. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.16.12)
The only difference between Fatah and Hamas is that Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people, whereas Fatah is dedicated to the destruction of the State of Israel and the expulsion of the Jewish people. That is why Abbas is viewed as a "moderate" in the international community. The Jewish people know better. We know EXACTLY what Abbas is.
15. To: No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.16.12)
There is a difference. The map used by the ersatz "Palestinians" makes no mention of Israel.
16. did you just realize that he was really a terrorist??
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (02.16.12)
Wake up and smell the coffee, he has never wanted peace with Israel only our destruction.
17. @13 Israeli maps do not claim WB & Gaza.. Most Israelis
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (02.16.12)
want 2 states, most Arabs dont. So all your negotiations are nonsens,telling people the oppositte in Arabic to English.. The reality is if you wanted "Palestine" you would be demanding the vast majority that is in Jordan.No cries of "occupation" there. The reality is Arabs want the tiny fraction that the Jews have.Thats what this has been about all along
18. Abbas is like Arafat...he is a TERRORIST !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (02.16.12)
AND A HOLOCAUST DENIER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19. #8 nour - the article is even worse than you think.
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.17.12)
And the worst thing about the article is that it's TRUE.
20. Abbas
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (02.17.12)
Moderate or not , I don't know. But it is 100% sure that he is not candid. He speaks different in english and arabic, and his acts are not in accord with his promises. Such a person is not a political partner for anybody I think.
21. #8 Nour - your headline said it all
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.17.12)
All the rest of your post was superfluos
22. #13 Forehead, don't be so sure
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.17.12)
Arabs want a map that doesn't show Israel on it at all Israel, at present is using the post-1967 war map, which is the result of Arabs having attacked so many times which caused them to lose land, when their intent had been to capture Isralei land
23. SECURE BIG ISRAEL, nonviolent transfer, BALANCE, time, peace
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (02.17.12)
24. Abbas was never anything but a terrorist.
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.18.12)
Abbas and Fatah never became Israel's friends and peace partners. They were always terrorists and still are. What did change, after the Oslo Disaster, was that Israel's government began pretending Fatah was our friend and peace partner. Israel's government tried to pretend black is white.
25. First BALANCE via SECURE BIG ISRAEL: shalom, salam, peace.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (02.18.12)
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