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The silence of the West
Giulio Meotti
Published: 22.02.12, 17:14
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1. Gazan children <3
noor harazeen ,   Gaza   (02.22.12)
2. It certainly is a terrible thing.
nibor ,   israel   (02.22.12)
I think the world is tired . . . A million people in Rwanda were murdered. Probably a million people in Sudan have been murdered. In Slovenia, women and children were murdered daily. There is Viet Nam and Cambodia. Are we screaming enough all the time? Do you scream too, not just when it effects you?
3. Leftist Yitzhak Rabin is also forgotten
Steven Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (02.22.12)
So by Meotti's logic, right wing Israel is anti-Semitic.
4. Mr. Meotti
Eli Carmon   (02.22.12)
Kudos
5. #2--Those people aren't Jews...
ZionistJim ,   Israel   (02.22.12)
...so why should we care? Yet I think it's pretty obvious why the world doesn't care about the fogels: antisemitism.
6. gazans freely elected ham-ass whose charter demands killing
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (02.22.12)
all Jews. Any people who avow terrorism and whose people suffer because of their choice should receive no pity. They could choose to live in peace and prosper but instead they choose to slit the throats of infants and show the world they have NO humanity. Then, they dance in the streets and pass out sweets to celebrate the death of a Jew. If ever there were a people who were totally, completely morally bankrupt, it would be the people who call themselves "palestinians."
7. to#2 in a peace time in the middle
NATAN ,   ISRAEL   (02.22.12)
of the nigth. We don't have an answer for all the murders in the world we are talking about this one, I wish to have the world solution to no children sufers no in israel no in gasa or in caboya but I dont I scream about all of them but this family was murdered in the midle of the nigth in there bed's.
8. to No 1 you own us 3009
NATAN ,   ISRAEL   (02.22.12)
9. Why?????
PalestineLover ,   Africa   (02.22.12)
What about the dozens of Palestinian children Israel kills! And what about the 5000+ Palestinian prisoners languishing in Israeli jails/prisons???? Why is there silence about that???
10. I am very tired
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (02.22.12)
of Meotti and his articles. He is so predictable that I recognize his Op-eds from the title, even before reading his name. When you get down to it, everything he writes can be summarized as: 'the world today hates the jews, and the world loves jewish suffering'. And for some reason, this non-jew from Italy just LOVES to point this image out to his Israeli audience at least twice a week, by carefully selecting his (sometimes random) facts, putting some in and leaving some out, regardless of their relevancy or mutual association (or lack thereof). If he, in so doing, creates an obscenely exagerated distortion of both reality and the west (which is btw reminiscent what some western media outlets do to the image of Israel), he is by no means deterred. Meotti just loves to bring people together...
11. 100% agree
Y.D.   (02.22.12)
I know at first hand that the media in neither Burkina Faso nor Papua New Guinea reported about the Fogels, because Jewish lives don't count in these countries. Disgusting. Thank you Mr Meotti for reporting this.
12. The lessons of the Fogel massacre
Eli ,   Jerusalem   (02.22.12)
should be internal ones for us. I don't care that the rest of the world did was not concerned or forgets so long as we do not. Every Israeli and every Jew should think of this sweet beautiful family as if it were their own family. As gory and gruesome as what happened to them: can you not think that this could have happened to your mamma and papa and brothers and sisters or your children. We should not turn our eyes away but REMEMBER because most of the Arabs supported the killing and made heros of the murderers. Will they be released in afew years if the Arabs are successful in kidnapping another soldier? Will we forget how savage our enemies are? These are the lessons.
13. Great article by Meotti
Dan Kelso   (02.22.12)
The leftist Jew happens to forget that when a Palestinian terrorist blows up a bus he does not care how many leftist Jews are in it. The left wants a Jew free Palestinian state, but wants an israel with millions of Arabs.
14. #9 pl
David ,   USA/Israel   (02.22.12)
You said, " And what about the 5000+ Palestinian prisoners languishing in Israeli jails/prisons???? Why is there silence about that???" Those 5000, if your number is correct, is made up of animals like the killer of the Fogels. I agree, we should not be silent about them either. We should publish loudly throughout the world our thanksgiving and joy that such animals are locked away. It helps us sleep at night.
15. Who is this guy?
Rain   (02.22.12)
He writes the most ridiculous stuff. He lives in a world of paranoia and half truths. I hope they don't waste paper on his op-eds in the print version. Why is this a Jewish thing? Hundreds of kids are being killed in Syria and I don't see the world lifting a finger there either.
16. To # 1 Noor Harazeen
marucho ,   Bs. As. Argentina   (02.22.12)
Stop using children as human shields, and there will be no children casualties, you COWARDS, DESPICABLE KILLERS OF UNDEFENSIBLE JEWISH CHILDREN, WOMEN AND OLD PEOPLE.
17. So true Mr. Meotti
Yaakov stern   (02.22.12)
But the Fogels live in our hearts
18. Absolute lies
David ,   San Francisco   (02.22.12)
The UN, EU, and US all condemned the killings, along with the PA and PA run newspapers. Peace Now also came out against it. The world was hardly silent. This is nothing but a lying propaganda article used to raise undeserved sympathy for the apartheid entity.
19. Thank you Mr. Meotti.
Shalom ,   U.S.A.   (02.22.12)
20. 2 short points
Yitz ,   Israel   (02.22.12)
1. Gabriel from Leiden is nauseating in his "learned" "erudite" remarks on Meotti, deliberately emphasising the "non-Jewish" part in his comment as if it was anything relevant pertaining to Meotti's criticisms and his putting in stark relief the barbarity and obscene nature of the so-called Palestinians. 2. Ruchama Marton is a former chairwoman of the anti-Israel, anti state of Israel Physicians for Human Rights - Israel, which has proven to be a quasi-terror tolerating fringe group of extremist ideologues in medical garb. they are BDS-ers and deligitimizers, just like the people cited with Israeli "University" background.
21. (10) Gabriel in Leiden
tiki ,   belgium   (02.22.12)
If you're so tired of Mr. Meotti's articles, I have the simple solution for you....STOP reading them!
22. Western complacency.....
tiki ,   belgium   (02.22.12)
The West loves to mourn dead Jews instead of respecting the living ones!Today they got their answer.....190 new buildings in Shilo. Israel doesn't want/need the 'approval of the World to do what's 'good for the Jews. The two Israeli Professors & psychiator, who's 'dream came true when the Fogel Family was butchered, should be fired and be forced to live & work in the new neighbourhood, now being build in Shilo.
23. # 1
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (02.22.12)
So how many had their throats slit? How many were riding school buses? The Fogels were not using their children as shields. You should be able to see the difference.
24. #18 David
Eli ,   Newton USA   (02.22.12)
Ah, your comment about the "apartheid entity" tells us all we need to know. We can ignore the rest of what you said, and any posts in the future.
25. @ Tiki 21
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (02.22.12)
What you don't seem to understand, is that most people, me among them, don't only read op-ed's and other comments on actualities with the automatic expectation of having their opinions humored. I don't only read the stuff which I suspect makes me giddy, I like to know commentators' opinions even if I find them unfounded and tiresomely repetitive. It gives me a frame of reference with regards to the pieces of said journalist. Call it journalistic curiosity, I call it the 'grown-up' approach. I can well do without your solution, which is not simple, but rather simplistic.
26. hypocratic contries in the west
Beary White ,   Norway   (02.22.12)
I am sorry that Norway, with its leftist government, join in with the hyprocratic family of Israel-haters, together with islamic contries, who by their sielnce supports terror from islamic followers/contries. But we must never forget the 50% population of Norway who supports Israel, and have the fight with the leftist in discussions.
27. Meotti and Itamar
Olga Stein ,   Moscow   (02.22.12)
Wise hard words, but true
28. Mr. Meotti discusses the situation
RobertHaymond ,   Israel/Canada   (02.22.12)
vis a vis the forgotten Jews murdered by terrorists in his book, "The New Shoah".
29. @ Yitz
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (02.22.12)
1. Yes, being Jewish myself, I find it thoroughly irritating when a non-jew constantly engages in one-sided, deliberate, alienating and exagerated fear-mongering regarding anti-semitism in the Western world among an Israeli/Jewish audience. I am not saying it isn't there at all, but Meotti regularly takes it to the absurd. 2. I do not pretend to be 'learned' nor 'erudite', those are entirely your own words. I wonder why you bring this up, though. If you disagree with my post, by all means explain.... 3. I harbour no illusions when it comes to Palestinian behaviour in Gaza, Judea and Samaria.
30. Leftist reactions to Fogel murders
Rachel   (02.22.12)
Ranged from sympathy, but the occupation was the cause,and they shouldn't have been living where they did. To people actually supporting the brutal murder of this family. The cruelty of the far leftists knows no bounds. Any Jew who hates his fellow Jews to the point where he supports Jewish babies and children being stabbed to death is no different than the Kapos during WW2,who turned Jewish children over to the Nazis.
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