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Islamic Jihad: Truce a victory for shahids
Elior Levy
Published: 13.03.12, 11:08
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1. Citizens of the south: You accept this surrender to terror?
who cares   (03.13.12)
Do you citizens of the south accept that your government leaves you again and again alone exposed to the missile terror ? Dont you expect your government / your army to finish this threat ? I would NEVER, NEVER allow the government to betray me and my family like you do - NEVER !
2. Joke
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (03.13.12)
And you know what will the last standing member of this terrorist organization say before dying of wounds inflicted by IDF? Victory..this is victory. Jokers.
3. What truce
Zev ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
As long as one rocket falls on Israel there is no truce. Unless Israel is happy with a truce for the cities only and not the small towns.
4. #1 betray?
Iranian Jew ,   LA   (03.13.12)
IDF cannot just go in and start killing. They have to see what is going on on the ground first. It sounds like you never severed in the army. You can't just start a war and put the hole country on hold.
5. as always
daniela ,   panama   (03.13.12)
as always Palestinians are delusional when they believe that they won a victory with the death of 18 terrorists and the destruction is trying to believe in the lies they use always. And unfortunately because they believe in those lies they keep doing the same mistakes. If they would have been honest with themselves they would realized that Israel defended itself accordingly, that the biger loser was Jihad Islami.
6. The Rules for fighting
Gideon Reader   (03.13.12)
Fight when you are prepared. When you are prepared use overwhelming force. Crush your enemy, insuring that he cannot-will n ot arise and kicketh your butt. Anything less is stupid, wasteful and putting off the day of your eventual loss and demise.
7. #5
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.13.12)
They lost because Israel managed to counter the strategic terror attack they were planning from Sinai, but they won because of the rocket attacks. They attacked the Israel home front, affecting 20% of the civilian population and causing incalculable economic and mental damage. They have managed to turn the genocidal Hamas into a "moderate force". They proved that Israel cannot attack Gaza, so they can decide when to start an attack and when not to. For them, 18 dead is a small price to pay.
8.  victory for shahids
joe ,   uk   (03.13.12)
lets hope that they get the promised virgins
9. Crazy, crazy Palestinian
Ricardo Macher ,   Sao Paulo   (03.13.12)
These people are out of their minds. They send 200 rockets to Israel and cannot make not even on victim. They suffer 20 deaths. And then they say truce is a victory. Are they mentally deranged or what?
10. Joke
Yosef Y ,   USA   (03.13.12)
Right on, John in Herzliya, Furthermore, these sub-animals live in their 1001 Arabian nights fairy tales. Their true prime minister is Shecherezad, combined with Mass Paranoid Schizophrenia, a criminally insane medical condition.
11. #9 To answer your question: YES, THEY ARE! :)
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12. #1 Take a pill and calm down. It's still 28:0 for Israel :)
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13. To all who said victory
Alfred ,   Philippines   (03.13.12)
This is victory? Many of your member died and damage to your property? I think you are idiot of all the idiots!
14. Victory Indeed..
sam   (03.13.12)
Your victories are second to none, you have poor judgement of what victory looks like. All your dictionaries do not define victory correctly or your teachers cheated you in explanation.
15. It is a terrorist victory of sorts
A ,   Belgium   (03.13.12)
The fact that "palestinians" and probably moslems in general (Syria, for example) put little or no value on human life is already a proven fact. But 200 rockets falling on Israel, regardless if no one is hurt, are 200 slaps in the face to the Israeli defense ministry, especially marshmallow Barak, for allowing this to happen without taking steps necessary to permanently end this disruption of and danger to everyday life in Israel.. Therefore, a victory for the terrorists as they once again prove that Barak is ineffective and impotent as DEFENSE minister.
16. #7 - a bit over-dramatic, wouldn't you say?
William ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
Yes, IJ DID launch some rockets - the only real victory they can claim. And Iron Dome knocked many out of the sky, plus the bunkers in place allowed so many people to avoid harm from these rockets. To IJ, this was a major failure on their part. And it showed that Israel can withstand a barrage of heavy rockets and still target top terrorist leadership. In 1 week, life in Israel will be back to normal - it always does. Israel can attack Gaza easy but they play their cards correctly. You never show your full hand, while IJ and others were forced to show their cards more because they couldn't inflict as much harm as they wanted to. 18 terrorists is NOT a small price to pay because several were top players. It shows major holes in Gazan terrorist systems and that they can be nailed any time. That's a major short-coming and mark my words, in the next several weeks, IJ, PRC, and Hamas will start killing people for being so-called "conspirators for Israel". That's what panicked terrorist groups do.
17. Hahaha - "we gave up and its a victory"
William ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
Well, never underestimate the ability for Arab terrorists to spin reality. You know, you'll never be safe as long as you commit war crimes against Israeli civilians. You might think twice next time, but be warned, we will kill the next Sec. General (I can't imagine who wants the job now) and we will weather the storm of rockets from Gaza until you beg for a cease-fire again, and claim yet another victory. May you have many more "victories".
18. Truce a victory? No it's not! Shahids die like 'heroes'
Talula ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
The ones who got blown sky high in the latest car bombing are seen as shahids to those Loonies. Not the Idiots firing willy-nilly from school tops in Gaza - with their faces covered because they are scared of being identified. Yeah, real brave.
19. #16 what is victory?
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.13.12)
Residents of Nizan refugee camp running in the middle of the night to cower in concrete drain pipes. Little Jewish children looking in their parents terrified eyes while hiding in stairwells. Old people in Ashdod too afraid to leave their homes. Restaurant owners losing 4 days of business.
20. Israel Agression!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (03.13.12)
For centuries the Muslims have been killing Jews. During the British Mandate Arabs massacred Jews. After the State of Israel was created by the United Nations 22 Arab countries declared war on Israel which, bar 2 countries (maybe) still exists. Arabs and "Palestinians" committed some of the most heinous terror attacks against Israels that the world has seen. Thousands of rockets have been launched against the civilian population in Southern Israel - more than 200 since Friday - and Hezbollah fired more missiles at Israel in the 2nd Lebanon War than Hitler launched against London during WWII. Iran and its minions want to wipe Israel off the face of the map. And Israel is the "Aggressor"? The real aggressor is Islam! More Muslims have been killed in the name of Islam by Muslims that by the Americans, the British and NATO since 2001!
21. we shahids are victorious over the zionist entity
Arnold ,   Canada   (03.13.12)
translation- you didn't get me - nanny , nanny , poo , poo
22. #19 - that's life in Israel - not specific to past 4 days
William ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
It has been like this, sadly, since Arabs demanded the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region. This isn't new, and all of the sad incidents you mentioned were inflicted on the entire country during 1948, 1956, 1967, 1991. Do I agree with the situation Nitzan families dealt with over the past 4 days? Absolutely not - and I demand a better situation for them. However, just ignoring the cesspool next door will not bring people in Ashdod or Sderot peace. Most times, it has brought them more danger. Remember back before Cast Lead - how many people had to sleep in shelters for several weeks because Israel didn't answer rockets attacks properly, and allowed terrorist leaders to travel freely? Don't be naive. The situation is larger than a few cities in the South, sadly, and we need a real comprehensive answer to Arab terror. But in no way would I claim Israeli fear to be a victory for Gazan terrorists.
23. #21 - that's absolutely correct
William ,   Israel   (03.13.12)
Even if Israel destroys 99% of terrorists and their infrastructure, if you have just a handful left over, they'll consider it a victory. Why? Because they claim Israel's goal is to wipe them from the face of the Earth the same way they wish to wipe Jews from here. The truth is - the IDF wished only to hit terrorist infrastructure, nail some terrorists, and keep them quiet in Gaza again. They succeeded in that.
24. I wish them more victories like this one lol.
shaun green ,   pasadena usa   (03.13.12)
Start a war, miss with almost all your shots. Have massive military losses, then beg the enemy you attacked to stop. VICTORY! I wish them many more victories just like this.
25. Now let me see....Israel has tested those
Edithann ,   USA   (03.13.12)
Iron Dome interceptors at a price of way over $100,000 each...as opposed to Palestinian home-made rockets at a price of about $35.00-$50.00 bucks each...As I see it, Palestinians sent in 222 rockets at a price of ($50 bucks) totaling $11,100.00...while Israel intercepted 56 PA rockets at over $100,000.00.a piece.. so do the math.. You don't know the cost, as Israel doesn't tell you Israeli's those tidbits...but then you don't get any schools either... The coming Israeli Spring demonstrations for education and housing etc, etc... should be noted and given serious thought before you assassinate another Palestinian reqjuiring another Iron Dome Victories... Just think of it as an existential thought, you know, the existential faux threats that keeps you all tethered.....hahahaha .Hating is very expensive even for those who can afford it! PS..US gave Israel $250 Million for l iron dome....Now that every jerk water town and settlement wants one, you can kiss your social services, water, gas, education and feeding the hungry Haredi bye, bye..... TATA
26. They call Israel "The Jewish State"
Moshe Milich ,   Columbia, MD USA   (03.13.12)
I'm confused...The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish State, yet they refer to Israel as the Jewish State...W*F?
27. Of course it is always your victory.
leo ,   usa   (03.13.12)
Do you ever lose, pathetic winners.
28. Edithann @ 25, Jewish life is priceless. For everything else
leo ,   usa   (03.13.12)
there is a MasterCard.
29. Shahid, shmahid, not pooped yet with so many victories?
Yossi   (03.13.12)
Arab mentality doesn't cease to amaze me; in 48' a disastrous victory for the shahids, in 53' another victory for them in the desert, in 67' the mother of all victories showered with tons of candies, in 73' dito. And today the beat goes on. Allah, why are you poisoning the mind of your depraved children? All this for a handful of used broads??
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