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Western world is blind
Shaul Rosenfeld
Published: 24.03.12, 13:09
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1. Like it or not...
Jules   (03.24.12)
... but a point of no-return has been approached: either Islam will be defeated by our civilization, or our civilization will perish.
2. deceived by the smart
Raymond Paz ,   China Macau   (03.24.12)
1. the liars or moderates, always preach peace of their religion but purposedly hides the violent saheh hadeeth and quran verses that abrogates the earlier verses. 2. the spineless and political correctness of EU and USA politicians makes them weak and unable to do the hard decision. 3. their weak leadership dont have the courage to follow what China do in Xin Jiang. Which is a TOTAL ban on Salafi, wahhabi Islam. Ban of arab dress with long beard. EU or USA cant do this, they are too weak stomach. The politicians are being deceived by the moderates liars, but ironically these politician also are deceiving the masses by saying ALL islamist are peaceful.
3. Islam is the BIG, WORLD ENDING problem
JEWISH DOCTOR ,   AMERICA THE BEAUTIUL   (03.24.12)
Islam is every bodies problem the problem will grow because these beggars keep their populations and children IN IGNORANCE and their women in captivity and slavery. as long as islam is kept separated from the majority and not absorbed into society, it will ovetake and BURY western civilization by their out of control birthrate. the west is doomed by their own political correctness in allowing an insane minority to bully and threaten the sane majority. the answer is to restrict the import of these dangerous people, as witnessed by TOULOUSSE thid week.
4. Our own private jihad
Avramele   (03.24.12)
Kudos to Rosenfeld. Under his leadership we the mighty nation of seven million will defeat the billion strong monolithic Islamic enemy. Of course first we will have to defeat the crypto Muslim American president, settle all our scores with every dead and aging leftist who ever lived, and give their due to quislings like Oz and Grossman. Yes, we will have to start with the traitors in our own midst since our PM does not listen to the wisdom of his wise spouse and father but takes counsel with the effeminate likes of Meridor, Begin and Barak. Yes, we must start there! All heil Rosenfeld, our prophet and supreme leader.
5. Western Civilisation Doesn't Have A Dog In The Fight
World Citizen ,   the world   (03.24.12)
Israel culture and society is not a part of western civilisation even if most of you are from eastern Europe. The whole reason you Jews wanted Palestine was to get away from European culture. Remember? What Israel and Jewish culture wants is for the West i.e. the USA, the UK, France, Germany etc to fight your war with Islam. What Israel wants is for the West to expend its blood and treasure fighting all the enemies you have made in the Middle East in the last 65 years. Go fight your own wars.
6. Point blank, spot on, nothing to add.... thanks Shaul.
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.24.12)
7. Looks like Shaul is selecting what talkbacks are published..
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8. Another Islamophobic article
OJ ,   Canada   (03.24.12)
If Islam was truly a problem, think. about what almost 2 billion people could accomplish. Then again, I don't expect you to know much about Islam.
9. True!!!
JLV   (03.24.12)
10. Someone finally had the guts to put it in print!
Jeff ,   Canada   (03.24.12)
Excellent article. Though I am a relative centrist, the Western media has become a cancerous rot of left wing apologies. This article puts things in perspective and should appear on the front page of the New York Times, Le Monde and other world papers so that people can begin to hear the truth of what is going on.
11. Islam,Christianity, Judaism are FICTIONAL.
Jeffrey Korman ,   Douglaston, NY   (03.24.12)
All Abrahamitic religion is fiction, the characters are fiction, the texts are fiction. Each also has their bogeyman "other" "sub-human" that they need to destroy to make them feel worthwhile.
12. Most Israelis are not from Europe
ChanahS ,   Israel   (03.24.12)
Most Israelis were born here in the ME and stem from Middle-Eastern and North African countries. On the other hand, we have created a society that is closer to western values than to mideast values, especiallgy with regard to education and politics, which is why Israel is up thre with the best scientists and contributions to the bettwement of humanity as a whole. So far Israel has fought its own battles, and will continue to do so. The fact is today the West realizes that radical Israel is EVERYONE'S problem, not just Israel's. Mideast countries are our enemies becaue they choose to be so, nt because we have made them so - unless you think our very existence is the reason for their enmity. You can kid yourself, but not us.
13. Very good article
theo   (03.24.12)
14. World citizen
Abie Dee ,   New York   (03.24.12)
Even though you might be a world citizen (and an Israel basher), your hate agenda seems to get in the way of the facts: the majority of Israelis are not from Eastern Europe, they are of middle east extract. And, if you think your statement is correct, then you need to apply it to the origins of the original Palestinian refugees of 1948... The majority of THEM had arrived in the neighborhood only AFTER the early zionists had cleared the land and made economic opportunity more possible. You're not a world citizen, just a citizen of your own distorted world.
15. Not so world citizen...
Abie Dee ,   New York   (03.24.12)
The whole reason you Jews wanted Palestine was to get away from European culture ??? REALLY ? ? Once again, you reveal your ignorance (and your hate).Pick up any Jewish prayer book and read the prayers that Jews have been reciting for over a thousand years. On every page you will see verses about Returning to Zion and' next year in Jerusalem,...these were the longings of Jews all around the world. Read it and learn the facts.
16. My minority view
Tom ,   USA   (03.24.12)
Let's abandon this repulsive generalization which characterizes every article. 1.Not the whole West is anti-Israeli but its Leftist and neo-Nazi segment of it; - unfortunately the Leftists have the loudest voice but we have to recognize those who don't agree with them. 2. We should also recognize that we're not a homogeneous tribe, many Jews are eager to harm Israel, there are groups - Jewish Marmara organizers, Haaretzniks - who hate patriotic Jews even more than - let's say - C. Ashton does. Call a spade a spade: it's the Marxist, hard left in Europe which kowtow to Islam and pour fuel on the fire of antisemitism. And their Jewish allies at the N.Y. Times.
17. No PC here, #5 you are a retard!
Sorry in advance ,   to the disabled   (03.24.12)
18. The real reason for jihad, is because Ishmael was
rejected, not by ,   Abe, but by God   (03.24.12)
rejected. and satan is using their anger at God to Kill an many humans as he can before he is tossed into the lake of fire.
19. #11 grow up...
lol you paid $$$ ,   for that education   (03.24.12)
20. # 8 what can 2 billion people do when God's hand is against
Them? Kill innocent ,   lose@ real war   (03.24.12)
21. NY IS FICTIONAL
cristian ,   argentina   (03.24.12)
UN is fictional,how many nations have they united? none,INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND is fictional,lend money not to help but to charge interest and become millonaries without working,THE STATUE OF SLAVEMENT-freedom???-is fiction,idolaters and worshipers of statues made by man for man,NY IS FICTION,THE DEN OF THIEVES AND LIARS
22. Islam Is The Problem
Jeff ,   Phoenix, Arizona   (03.24.12)
Islam is the problem. Merah was a pious, authentic, Muhammaden Muslim practicing his "religion." Until the West - and any honest, thinking human being - will be gutlessly honest, the big elephant in the room will remain ISLAM. It would behoove everyone to read the Qur'an, Hadith and Sira (Biography of Muhammad) in order to learn about Islam. Muhammad was a: Murderer, Rapist, Pedophile, Kidnapper, Misogynist, Slave Trader, Liar and Pirate. Many of the Medinan Verses in the Qur'an are a declaration of war again humanity (nonbelievers), while the Hadith is a Terrorist Manifesto. The UNVARNISHED truth about Islam and Muhammad must be known!
23. Al Qaeda is not Islam, its a western invention...
Geo ,   Cali   (03.24.12)
ment for radicalizing Muslims and hijacking Islam. More and more people are waking up. Shaul Rosenfeld, your carefully worded article is a sham. One day, the extremists in the world be ignored and cast away. Then we can have peace. The biggest threat to civilization is the likud party and aipac. They are on the brink of starting ww3 or collapsing the world economy into a deep deppression. They are the ones with all the nukes in the mideast. Its easy to push a button and start a war bibi, why don't you have some political balls and give them back their land, stop stealing their water. Coward.
24. Western world blind?
BK ,   Virginia   (03.24.12)
Not really...it knows the truth but p.c. prevents it from admitting it.
25. #5 totally ignorant
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (03.24.12)
No stupid a majority of us are not from Eastern Europe. We are from throughout the world and over half of the Jews in the world are in Western countries. A majority of Israelis are from the Middle East. Second we are the basis for what passes for Western culture. Third we are the only ones that have fought all our own wars. The racists in Europe sure as hell haven't, they always beg the US for help. Even the US has begged for help to fight their wars. We are the only country to ever fight our own wars. And are a racist ignorant moron. Oh hell I just said the same thing three times.
26. Jews do not need to apologize
Baruch ,   San Antonio, TX: USA   (03.24.12)
Rosenfeld's points are very well taken. But let's remember that this is an illiterate and soundbyte world. In fifteen seconds NPR can drive more lies into the heads of listeners than an Jewsih Camus could do in one hundred and twenty lifetimes. Amos Oz thinks of himself as the Jewsih Sherwood Aderson, you know Whine...Ohio, and should be seen as the trivialist that he is. We are Jews, we are Israelis, we are hated and attacked everywhere. We do not engage in the slithering behavior of our enemies. Instead we bild economies, industries, institutions, and strong character. This is a matter of our destiny. We do not neeed to justify ourselves in the world marketplace. We Waste our time measuring ourselves to our neighbors who have had thousands of years to do so, but still can not even feed themselves. That we are attacked is our heritage. That we will prevail is just plain emirical fact.
27. #12 You wrote "we have created a society
Yossef   (03.24.12)
that is closer to western values" But we INVENTED these values on which western civilization is built, and not the contrary. Read your Torah.
28. LEFTISTS are the real ENEMY!!!!!!!
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29. Spot on! Islam is violent and evil.
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So glad that I'm a Christian, we never killed anybody in the name of our religion. We have a 2000 year old record of being a religion of love and peace. Muslims should be ashamed.
30. You jews see world through rose-colored glasses
Ergenekon ,   istanbul   (03.24.12)
Who hell do you think you are?What a joke."Almost everyone is staying away from pointing the finger at Islam."So what?You suggest to launch a war against Islam?In such a case you would accept results.
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