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No chance for peace
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 26.03.12, 11:38
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31. The Israeli government is partly responsible
Tracy W   (03.26.12)
The Israeli government rents air frequencies to PA-TV, which routinely presents Jews as "apes and pigs" that must be destroyed. And it should go without mention that they also present ALL of Israel as being under occupation, not just Judea and Samaria. Will these generations be happy once they get a state of their own? Will they be able to relate to Israel in a diplomatic manner? Of course not, they will consider it their sacred duty to continue to fight to get the rest of Israel. Who knows how many Jews have lost their lives due to this Arab indoctrination - of which the Israeli government is an indirect part. Israeli officials have been confronted with the fact that Israel continues to rent air frequencies to a PA medium that incites hate and violence, but their reaction is evasive. Just as evasive as when confronted with Israel's acceptance of UNRWA textbooks that have the same hateful narrative, including a history curriculum that erases Israel off the map. It is rather hypocritical for Israel to decry anti-Semitism abroad while the government allows something much, much worse by its partners for peace.
32. Step #1 if any chance for peace is SERIOUS RE-EDUCATION
Common Sense ,   Israel   (03.26.12)
of all Arabs. They need as many generations to come out of this hatred as they have received to get there. THIRTY years minimum. Arabs must be taught the TRUTH of Jewish history in the land of Israel, not Islamic lies. Arabs must be taught tolerance, respect and love for everyone. THERE CAN NEVER BE ANY PEACE BASED ON LIES. IT MUST START WITH TRUTH AND EDUCATION. Many years of this FIRST. IF they can get through that, THEN we can think about signing a peace agreement. Anything on paper before that is a waste of paper.
33. Response to #1: Israel was happy with a small piece of land
The TRUTH ,   Israel   (03.26.12)
So called Palastinians will NEVER be happy with even half of Israel. If they would there could then be real peace I would be the first to say "give it to them"... but EVERYBODY with half a brain knows that half would never be enough. It would not bring peace. Palis want only to get a chunk big enough so that they can use it to get the rest of Israel. Be honest. Say the whole truth.
34. Peace ONLY via BALANCE, balance ONLY via SECURE BIG ISRAEL.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (03.26.12)
35. #4: Be a dead Jew also is not part of Judiasm
Zipi ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.26.12)
It is amazing that after so many generations of Jews are persecuted you still only care about OCCUPATION. and Jewish values. This article is for you. Stopping occupation will not bring peace but more dead jews. it will never be OVER!!!
36. #8 samy - wrong, wrong, wrong
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.26.12)
The “Peace Initiative” allowed for a “right of return” without the same right of Jews from arab countries to return to their homes (as if they would ever want to), or get compensation. “Right of return” is also code for Israel’s destruction. And if you had listened, Saudi Arabia admitted that the “plan” was really a suggestion, such that each arab state would be left to decide on its own whether it wanted to agree or not. Israel thought about it. But it didn’t take long for them to see through it to the reality; something you fail to do.
37. #27 bertram
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.26.12)
I agree with you in that Israel should base it’s legitimacy on the fact that it has earned it. Jews bought land, were attacked, defended, and won. (I leave out thousands of details, but this post would be too long.) However, the point is that the ARABS will eventually need to arrive at some accommodation with Israel. Israel has shown flexibility; the arabs, none.
38. ALL groups of humans eventually get defeated
Spyguy ,   Seattle USA   (03.26.12)
The hard reality that Ms. Horing ignores is that it is completely impossible for Israel to remain militarily better than its ever increasing number of enemies. No group of humans, over the last 50,000 years, has ever been able to retain hegemony by force for more than a few years. Just like every other group of humans that have tried it, if Israel tries to maintain its situation by force, it will eventually be crushed by force. BTW- war like behavior REQUIRES tremendous resources, which Israel does not have a lot of.
39. Scorched Earth
Lacy ,   USA   (03.26.12)
Excellent article. You cannot appease those who want to destroy you. Military might makes right in dealing with them. The Old Testament way of totally wiping out your enemy and all of his possessions, what we today call scorched earth, at least guarantees a generation of peace. Sounds right to me.
40. Almost whole of the Arab population of present times is of
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.26.12)
a "desert generation" variety, that is: they have to be taken into a desert and be left there until their hate dies out. Unfortunately it's only a dream. Islam will be their undoing unless it manages to undo theJudeo-Christian society first.
41. #37 Solomon
Bertram ,   London, UK   (03.26.12)
The point is that the Arabs will say the same about Israel. So, stalemate. So there has to be another way. It requires political imagination. If not, unless the rest of the world imposes a 'solution' on all parties, then might will be right.
42. #6; Terrorism , Nazism, antisemtism is a disease
Ari ,   Chicago, USA   (03.26.12)
Terrorism is not a one time event by a crazy person. The Islamists adopted an ideoplogy and way of life trageting children in many schools, synagugues, kindergardens, for a period of over 4 decades and even before 1948/ It is not a collateral damage of war while the Arabs using their kids as humane shield but an intentional , premediated efforts to Target jewish kids and civilains.
43. ONLY CHANCE FOR PEACE is a 3 STATE SOLUTION.........!!!!!!!!
Simple SOLUTION ,   Tel Aviv   (03.26.12)
Arabs get Jordan, Leftist-non religious liberal Israeli Jews get what is now Israel proper minus Jerusalem, religious Israeli Jews and all new olim get Judea/Samaria and Jerusalem. No this will not be easy, but because of the hatred, mostly from the Arabs, THIS is the ONLY solution that has any chance of bringing a long and lastingg peace. Like minded people all live together, no daily classes of civilization, everybody minds their own business and the "borders" are defensible. Anyone who refuses this truth only wants the destruction of Israel. Not PEACE.
44. based on the world
k ,   US   (03.26.12)
I think the "Samson Option" is the only option sometimes I see these disgusting anti-semites who get such a joy out of belittling and mocking the Jews, and most of them are in Europe and America The Muslims are brainwashed animals and there is no chance for peace with them Sometimes I think Israel has no choice but to unleash their weapons and kill as many as possible and either die in a suicide mission or hope they will kill enough that they will be able to get real power
45. A very very good article... 100% correct in EVERY aspect.
Alan ,   SA   (03.26.12)
46. Just get religion out of there
Gunnar ,   Gothenburg, Sweden   (03.26.12)
It's not impossible to achieve peace. "All" that is needed is that the 57 Islamic nations, the one Jewish nation and the World's superpower (the US), all get leaders that are outspoken secularists. Get "God" out of there and this conflict can be solved. Impossible?!?! Galileo Galilei was told the same back in the 16th century when he claimed the Earth was round. He never gave up
47. Ms.Horing
Elie Abitbol ,   Canada   (03.26.12)
And the Palestinians were invented by dictators such as Nasser, Assad, Hussein etc.. Once you Palestinians accept it, you can go back to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria etc.. and have a life instead of living from handouts !
48. The Arabs aren't happy with 22 countries.
Dan Kelso   (03.26.12)
The whole conflict is because Arabs and the religion of peace can’t accept the existence of Israel not controlled by the Arabs.
49. Arabs came to Israel in the 7th century
Ed Rosen   (03.26.12)
Arabs came to Israel in the 7th century with Mohammad's armies attacking the entire Mideast and North Africa (Arabs came from Arabia, get it?). The Jews and Berbers (who already lived in the ME) fought them. Arabs insisted they were NOT “Palestinians” until the 1960's, when they needed propaganda to counter Israel.
50. The Arabs admit they love killing Jewish children.
Steve Epstein   (03.26.12)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4207446,00.html Merah felt ‘endless pleasure’ during school massacre How many times over the last 40 years have we seen Arabs celebrating the massacre of Israeli civilians. We are dealing with a sick evil people in these Mooslems. Palmediawatch and Memri have documented the Arabs and Iranians Mufti's, Mullahs and media glorifying the slaughter of Israeli civilians. Only the Arabs could celebrate the Maalot massacre, Kibbutz Metzner massacre, Passover massacre, Disco massacre, Sbarros massace, Fogel massacre, tons of bus bombing massacres. No less than 84% of the Palestinians supported the Mercaz Harav yeshiva massacre in 08 in Jerusalem. You can read about this here. http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/03/84-percent-of-palestinian-arabs-support/ This shows more and more the Palestinians have no humanity. They slaughter Israeli civilians on buses, shopping centers, disco's, pizzeria's, hotels, holocaust survivors celebrating Passover. Jews are commonly referred to as sons and daughters of pigs and apes. Streets in Gaza and Ramallah are named after homicide bombers who tear life from the defenseless Jews to implement the Arabs genocidal plans.
51. PA continues to teach denial of Israel's existence
Eric Stoler   (03.26.12)
PA continues to teach denial of Israel's existence http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=3351 Oct 5, 2010 Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik Last week, PA TV rebroadcast an educational documentary that has been broadcast numerous times since 2007. The documentary describes the Israeli cities of Haifa, Acre, Ashkelon, Jaffa and the Sea of Galilee as Palestinian.
52. Palestinian Mufti who called for killing all Jews
Larry Michlin   (03.26.12)
Palestinian Mufti who called for killing all Jews last month. This is the best part about what he said. http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=254628 Sheikh Muhammad Hussein denied inciting the murder of Jews, saying he was just quoting the Islamic text. "I can't change the Hadith," he added. So this Mufti admits killing all Jews is part of the Koran. Yup, you got to love this peaceful religion called Islam.
53. Hatred is in the Arabs genes
Joel Susser   (03.26.12)
When Israel met with the PA a few weeks ago in Jordan, Israel’s negotiator Yitzhak Molcho presented PA negotiator Saeb Erekat with a booklet dealing with Palestinian incitement against Jews. Erekat appeared livid and stormed out of the room as if insulted that the Palestinians are supposed to stop glorifying terrorists who murder Israeli civilians. So what does the PA do a week later, they put music videos on the state controlled PA station calling a world without Israel
54. Palestinians should get one thing into their heads
Laurie Gold   (03.26.12)
Palestinians should get one thing into their head: the world does not revolve around them. They share the blame for their situation, because they always wanted everything and never wanted to compromise. First and foremost that NOBODY, and least Israel owes them anything. Right now the Pals dont want to compromise and think Obama will deliver Israel on a silver platter.
55. 'The Palestinians history is terror, terror,
Adam Schwartz   (03.26.12)
'The Palestinians history is terror, terror, and more terror against dozens of nationalities. They deserve nothing but the world's scorn. Sickening
56. Peace is impossible because of Arab Hatred
Dov Goldmund   (03.26.12)
Peace is impossible because Palestinian leaders reject any solution that implies acceptance of a Jewish State alongside an Arab one. They are willing to wait decades for total victory. No amount of unilateral Israeli concessions or goodwill gestures will bring about peace. Israel’s position has mellowed over the decades while the other side remains unswervingly committed to the goal of seeking Israel’s destruction. There is no way to bridge the differences between the Arabs and the Jews in our lifetime. Palmediawatch has documented the Palestinians genocidal intentions. I advise everyone to read this and oppose Islamo Fascism www.palwatch.org
57. Thank God for this article. She is so right on the money
Robert Levy   (03.26.12)
Barak and Olmert offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab or Islamic country ever did. Israel offered the Palestinians a state, even though there was never in history any state called Palestine governed by Palestinians. The Palestinians refused to end the conflict as long as it meant that they would have to accept the legitimacy of Israel as a sovereign, permanent country and neighbor. Only when the Palestinians extremist/rejectionist/supremacist attitude changes will peace really be possible. Hamas and the PLO derive their legitimacy by killing Israeli secretaries and high schoolers. The Palestinians have raised an entire generation to believe that the highest aspiration in life is to kill Jews. The Palestinians are engaged in an unremitting campaign of targetted murder of women and children. When the Palestinians massacre Israeli school children on buses and babies in baby carriages, they celebrate. They have raised an entire generation to believe that the the highest cultural and religious value is the massacre of Jews. Through the Arabs hate, an entire generation has lost the capacity for humanity.
58. The Palestinians as hatemongers. Nah
Barry Weiss   (03.26.12)
Abbas honors mastermind of Munich Olympics massacre http://www.thejerusalemgiftshop.com/israelinews/conflict/terrorism/778-abbas-honors-mastermind-of-munich-olympics-massacre-.html http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=5581 PA TV honors Sbarro pizza shop terrorists Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik Sept. 4, 2011 PA TV host sends "best wishes" to "our glorious" prisoner who transported suicide bomberto attack that killed 15, including 7 children. These are the sadists that the left supports. http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=1526 Abbas honors terrorist Dalal Mughrabi, killer of 37 This week Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas once again honored the memory of the terrorist Dalal Mughrabi - this time by sponsoring a ceremony celebrating the 50th anniversary of her birth. Mughrabi led the worst terror attack in Israel's history in 1978, when she and other terrorists hijacked a bus and killed 37 civilians. Present at the ceremony were Palestinian dignitaries and a children's marching band. Earlier this year, Abbas sponsored a computer center named after Mughrabi. The PA further glorified Mughrabi on the date of her birth when the Governor of Ramallah announced the naming of the "Dalal Mughrabi Square".
59. PEACE
JEFF ,   MIAMI/JERUSALEM   (03.26.12)
the muslims hate all orher religions and each other, i.e. shiite and sunni. Might makes right in this world. And The True God is with The jews, history proves it and also continuous Israeli victories in war. Arab hatred for Jews is part of their religion, allah is a false god and the koran is the mein kamph of mohammed the false prophet. The land of israel from the river to the sea is a deed guarenteed fom YHVH the eternal landlord to Abraham and nothing can ever break this divine covenant. jordan is palestine and the palestinians must stop tresspassing and have an arab spring in jordan where they are 80% of the population. Jerusalem is the undivided eternal capital of Israel as declared by YAH is it any wonder that billions of muslems can't conquer her. YAH IS WITH hIS PEOPLE AND THE CURSE IS OVER WE ARE A PEOPLE REBORN IN OUR ANCIENT HOMELAND FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA and have no enemies to make us afraid, soon we will be exporting gas and oil and the european prostitutes will change their song. HALALOO YAH AMEN!!!!
60. So when are you going to press the button?
Cynic #2   (03.26.12)
Soon I hope. Let all hell loose and bring on Armageddon. Satisfied now!!!!
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