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Panetta: Israel strike in Iran will engage US
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Published: 31.03.12, 12:57
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1. Underwear?
Joy   (03.31.12)
Israelis do not have the underwear to attack Iran without the full approval of the USA / its president "OBAMA" Panetta is funny man, once said "get back to the damn table"
2. Don't be such a negative doomsayer, Leon.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (03.31.12)
3. The insipid Pinnocchio stalls for time
Devorah   (03.31.12)
pending Obama's election. - once again.
4. Dah?! Didn't u see this coming before?!
(03.31.12)
5. Panetta should make it clear to Israel....
Chris.B ,   Australia   (03.31.12)
that any plane heading towards Iran from Israel will be shot down by American air defences in the region. Not to mention Turkey. This should put an end to all the fake bravado going around.
6. Well ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.12)
It's not exactly a great big secret that an Israeli pre-emptive strike against Iran -- which has threatened to "wipe Israel from the map" for over thirty years -- will be met with an Iranian strike against a U.S. asset, probably a U.S. navy ship in the Gulf. But that would be the U.S.'s problem, not Israel's. Israel cautioned and warned the United States against attacking Iraq after Iraq invaded Kuwait. Did the United States listen? Did the United States care that Iraqi SCUDs would be launched against Israel in retaliation? No. The United States told Israel to suck it up and do the best it could. Sure enough, SCUDs were launched against Israel and, against Israel's better judgment, we sucked it up and did not retaliate. Well -- the United States can take the benefit of its "advice." Suck it up. If the Iranians retaliate against a U.S. asset -- they are FAR too cowardly to retaliate against Israel, knowing what will come -- our advice to the U.S. is "suck it up." What goes around, comes around. The U.S. can reap the benefit of its advice to Israel back in the Gulf War. Never mind the fact that the Gulf War in 1991 was a very different animal thanks to Israel's destruction of Iraq's nuclear reactor (despite strong American protest and resultant sanctions). Suck it up, U.S. Suck it up. Hey -- isn't that exactly what YOU told US to do? Pretty good advice, don't you think? Take a deep breath. Israel is not going to trust its future -- or existence -- to empty United States promises. Suck it up, U.S. Israel's existential concerns are Israel's business, and as for the U.S. -- well -- let the pieces fall where they may. Suck it up.
7. The American superpower - wake up!
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.31.12)
What happened to the America that defeated enemy after enemy in WW1and WW2? USA defeated Nazi Germany, Italy and Japan during WW2 and now USA has troubles to fight the taliban in Afghanistan. I doubt the USA will ever attack Iran because the US leadership is weak. Militarily speaking USA is a superpower, but the leadership of the USA is anything but super. I hope the American people is smart enough to vote for the Republicans this time and to clean up the economic mess in the USA. And when the American economy is doing well again, then just maybe can the Americans afford another war against Islamic lunatics, but this time learn from their previous mistakes. And if everything else fails, just flatten the Moslem countries to the ground. I think that would be the best alternative to protect Americans against terrorism. Whether USA likes it or not, the West is in a war with Islam. Islam started it. Now it remains to see who will win it. One thing is for sure: as long as Obama is in power, the West will not win.
8. To: No. 1
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.12)
Stick to Tupperware parties, honey. That's way more your speed. Change your underwear first, please, and be very, VERY sure to wash your hands. Then you can get back to the damn table.
9. To: No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.12)
LOL! Can you spell "submarine?" How about "orbital platform?" Can you spell that, either? Idiot! Take your "bravado" and sheer stupidity and flush it down the outhouse, or whatever primitive Aussies such as yourself use these days. I hope I've made that sufficiently clear.
10. He hints at "engaged" against Israel:-) That makes sense..
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.31.12)
11. #5 " PANETTA SHOULD "
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (03.31.12)
Should Would Could . It is a very unwise proposition to mess with the israel air force .Any country who did so would sorely regret it . Now go home and play with your toys.
12. To nr 5 - Australia is not located in the Middle East..
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.31.12)
...you are not the one in power, you should be lucky that you don't live in this region because I'd like to see how exactly are you going to shoot down Israeli planes. I can forgive you for being a moron without any influence whatsoever but anyone who declares war on Israel will be destroyed - be it states, terrorists or anti-Semitic lonewolfs such as yourself that aspire to destroy Israel and to prevent Israel from defending itself. It seems that Israel's mere existence and mere right to defend itself "provokes" anti-Semitic scumbags like yourself but you see no problem with Turkish war rhetorics against Israel and Iran threatening Israel with annihilation. I sincerely hope that all anti-Semites on this earth will finally, one day, be wasted and wiped out - and that includes you. You anti-Semites are a burden to the human race. Where there is light you spread darkness. Where there is love you spread hatred. Where there is tolerance and brotherly love for everyone as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism encourage us to do, you spread racism and racist paranoia. I think I sould make it clear to you that Israel has the 4th largest military air force in the world, we have satellites, we have more tanks than Germany, France and UK combined and we have more nukes than UK and France combined. If there is a fake bravado going on it is in your twisted and reality detached mind. Turkey is going to shoot down Israeli planes? LOL! Are you smoking weed or something? If Turkey shoots down Israeli planes, Turkey goes up in flames. USA attacking Israeli planes? USA and Israel are allies - in case you didn't know. Speaking about racism and hatred, when are you white Christian Anglo-Saxon Australians going to hand back the land to the Aboriginees?
13. #7: We are awake
Jacob Edelman ,   Annandale,USA   (03.31.12)
If you are eager to have a war, go and fight but leave America alone !
14. STOP ! IRAN = HELL, yes HELL.
jushua ,   morocco   (03.31.12)
Israël must understand the game this time is different. Why the West and the Arabs can’t topple Assad’s regime ?? This may be a clear answer to the leaders of Israel. Persia is a great nation. Beware not to make a fatal mistake. IRAN is supported by the Russians, the Chinese, and even the Indians … Russia’s back on the international scene. Beware of falling into this deep Hell. It’s extremely dangerous.
15. To « Alexander, Tel Aviv,talkback 7
jushua ,   morocco   (03.31.12)
Mr. « Alexander, Tel Aviv,talkback 7, I think you’re having sweet dreams. Neither Democrats nor Republicans can change anything. There are new players now on the international scene : Russia, China, India, Bresil … It’sdifferent. USA is burdened and exhausted by long Wars of attrition in iraq and afganistan. America strategically’s loosing friends. America’s intersts are on the test.
16. #5 CHRIS B. THE RESULTS
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (03.31.12)
In mock air battles / war games held a few years ago , three or four years ago if I am not mistaken , between U.S. air force pilots and israeli pilots ,the reesults of the war games were thus : 12 israeli planes shot down . and 375 american shot down . The americans know very well never to confront israeli pilots .Please put that in your pipe and smoke it.
17. Iran will NOT attack any US assets, because
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.31.12)
the mullahs know, that taking on the US will ultimately seal their fate...and so they will just be GLAD to take only a limited attack on their illegal nuke installations and to keep the B I G satan at bay...oh well... THE MULLAHS ARE SITTING IN A GLASS HOUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18. Not to worry, Israel will NEVER attack Iran without the US
Tom ,   PA   (03.31.12)
Many Israelis like to talk tough (just read some of the talkbacks on this subject) as well as act tough (by sending jets against Palestinian civilians) but they're smart enough to know not to attack a nation that can fight back. Or at least they've become smarter after recently getting beat up so bad in Lebanon. Israel will only attack Iran with support from the US. Barring that support, there is no way Israel will attack. Anyone want to go on record disagreeing with me? Any of you tough armchair warriors want to claim that Israel will attack Iran without US help? By all means speak up if you believe this. It will be fun watching you be wrong (again.)
19. leave iran alone
european   (03.31.12)
is it really possible americans have no other means of putting their paws on iranian oil, but to jeopardize the very existence of israel and start yet another war? what happened to trade, commercial partnerships, takeovers, mergers... regime change financed and directed from abroad? any of those means short of actual war? this "kill-kill-kill" policy is so primitive.
20. #7 Poor soul...
Tal ,   TLV   (03.31.12)
Were you beaten or bullied as a kid? You're probably very upset and frustrated...
21. #19...Go back to kindergarten...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.31.12)
And leave the grown ups alone...
22. S I U usa you elected this peder.
Zvi ,   YERUSHALAIM,ISRAEL   (03.31.12)
Sara is 100% right as always
23. Obama/Panetta/Clinton...you can run but you can't hide.
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (03.31.12)
24. #18 YOU TALK NONSENSE
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (03.31.12)
"Tough armchair warriors " ??? what are you on about ?
25. To nr 20 - Let me ask you two questions
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.31.12)
1) Why do you project your personal experiences on me? 2) Why is it wrong to point out the truth and to tell it the way it is? Why is it wrong to protest injustice, evil and malign behavior and evil and malign people? Because it goes against your opinions? Because it is politically incorrect? Because the truth upsets people? I thought we live in a free and democratic society where you can not only express your opinions but also speak the truth - you know, such fundamental things such as facts and reality.
26. To: Alexander
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.12)
For what it is worth, I agree with you one hundred percent. By the way -- don't ever worry about being politically "incorrect." (I'm still not sure how such a thing is possible.) Speak your mind. The problem is invariably on the other end; not yours. Don't lose a minute's sleep worrying about namby-pamby idiots who sacrifice all on the altar of a very questionable so-called "ideology." Facts and reality must always prevail, and that must always be the basis for any meaningful response. Everything else be damned.
27. Leave Iran Alone
Jay ,   Topeka KS   (04.01.12)
We don't need involved in Iran one darned bit. Obama needs to just BACK OFF ! We don't need high gas prices, we non't need sticking our nose in other countries. NO MORE BEING THE WORLD POLICE MEN.!!!
28. Attack US?
John ,   USA   (04.01.12)
Attacking Israel is not attacking USA!
29. Not all Australians are as dumb as #5
Brendan ,   Melbourne   (04.01.12)
Many of us support Israel and recognize that a nuclear Iran is a problem for everybody not just Israel. The reality is Israel can't expect anybody to come to their aid - I mean in 1973 Europe blocked US aircraft from refueling in Europe to save Israel from a genocidal invasion. So who cares what they think? There was no nuclear Iraq thanks to Israel. There is no nuclear Syria thanks to Israel. If there is no nuclear Iran thanks to Israel, I'd be very very happy. And seriously, the USN/USAF could bomb Iran back into the stone age without breaking a sweat - so why is Panetta bitching?
30. To: Brendan at No. 29
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.01.12)
Thank you very much for your considered post. The reason Panetta is bitching is because he takes his marching orders from the traitorous Islamist protagonist in the White House (most Americans have not forgotten that humiliating "hands across the ocean" speech given by Obama -- his FIRST public speech -- addressed to the Iranian government.. Not that Israel really cares what a particular American president may think, feel or do. Israel does not take its marching orders from the United States.
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