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Palestinians seek UN condemnation of settlements
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Published: 10.04.12, 21:51
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1. mr malki Save The Tree's Killed For The Paper
(04.10.12)
Used for your useless letter's to the u.n.. Israel Can and Will Build any in the Ancient Home Land of Our Forefathers. So get used to it habibi!!! Yella all you want, move to trans-jordan that is the second of two states by balfour!!!
2. Round and round we go!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.10.12)
The settlements are completely legal. Judea and Samaria are non-sovereign territories, acquired by Israel in the course of fighting a DEFENSIVE war against Jordan. The land is Israel's to settle, retain and even annex. That's black-letter international law. What the rest of the world may think is really of no importance or relevance. Anyone care to tell the Chinese that their brutal occupation of Tibet is illegal? It happens to be a gross violation of international law. Where is the outrage?
3. The same useless UN that let 10,000 syrian die?
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (04.10.12)
4. Writing letters & more letters and......
tiki ,   belgium   (04.10.12)
NOTHING WORKS! Nobody takes these 'nudnicks serious anymore.
5. If the PA wants to talk law,give them law.
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (04.10.12)
It really bugs me that the PA and its camp followers continually call the settlements illegal without actually quoting the infringed law and with no response from Israel's government. Are there no lawyers in Israel?Cannot Israel's government also send letters to the UNSC quoting the ACTUAL law,which is the Mandate for Palestine?If Jews cannot take on a legal argument any more,I am amazed and the world must have changed without my noticing.I'm damned sure that I could find Jewish solicitors even here on Tyneside who could do a better job. I just cannot understand why Israel's government is so diffident about actively confronting the PA's bogus legal claims. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
6. The UN accepted Israel as a country
Sam Einhorn ,   Canada   (04.10.12)
The UN accepted Israel as a country long tome ago. The Palestinians rejected that. Now the Palestinians complain to that same UN. Jews don't have to give a bleep what the Palestinians want at the UN. The Palestinians pick and choose what they want and so should Jews.
7. #5
michael ,   new york   (04.10.12)
Gosh, I couldn't agree more... Israel's PR is the worst in the world, which is probably why they have done NOTHING to repel these despicable cockroaches from infringing on Israel's case. WAKE UP ISRAEL!!!
8. Israel should stop settlements
Stephan ,   Munich, Germany   (04.11.12)
for a while in order to promote the peace process. The future of the state Israel lies in moral behaviour and playing by the rules. Until Jews have made their paths straight, Israelis will live under constant war threat. The future for Israel has been decided long ago by the Lord. There will be peace and rest for all Jews in their homeland. But that won't come soon, if Jews walk further on their bad paths. Jahwe won't return to a people which is breaking the rules. And he is the only one who can bring peace and he will. Until now, Israel has trusted in public relations and the IDF. And what is the result? Is there peace and security? The result was constant war-threat. And this has been a punishment from Jahwe. But now the time of grace has come and Israel will return on the right path. This will bring eternal peace and security!
9. #8 G-d told the Jews to settle the land
Sam ,   Canada   (04.11.12)
G-d didn't distinguish between Israel proper and the West Bank. He gave them both to the Jews and told them to settle.Jews have tried to compromise with the Palestinians for the sake of peace. They already tried a freeze. Palestinians reject living next to a Jewish Israel. That is why there is no peace. Jews should go on settling until Palestinians have made it clear they have had a change of heart. Otherwise, Jews have no excuse for disobeying G-d by not settling.
10. And in return, send Abbas a copy of the Oslo Accords
William ,   Israel   (04.11.12)
complete with Arafat's signature on it, and the portion allowing for settlement growth highlighted and tabbed for his convenience.
11. #8 - we did already - for 10 months
William ,   Israel   (04.11.12)
in all of that time, the "Palestinians" did nothing. It was virtually impossible to get them to the table. Only after 8.5 months did they meet and they came with outrageous demands they required met before moving forward. In essence, they pissed away the entire time because they weren't interested in negotiations. Recently, they did the same thing - after making demands like stopping settlement building, Abbas tacked on a host of other demands that must be met before negotiations.
12. #8 - Stephan
Devorah   (04.11.12)
Are you kidding me? Have you ever cracked open a bible? Have you ever read Torah? Have you ever read the prophets? Have you any idea that entering into a "peace process" with the enemies of Israel is an offense to G-D? Have you any idea that the last thing G-D wants is for Israel to forfeit ANY land? I don't know what your idea of moral behaviour and playing by the rules is, but one thing I can tell you is that it is not consistent with the bible.
13. GO READ L.O.N. RESOLUTION 181 YOU BUTTHEADS!
EZRA THE PROUD JEW ,   USA-ISRAEL   (04.11.12)
JEWS MAY SETTLE ANY PART OF HISTORIC ISRAEL WEST OF THE JORDAN RIVER. Its sickening that the falestinians (who, by the way, the moment they began calling themselves 'palestinians' relinquished any and ALL claims to a FLECK of sand from Historic Israel! Little info these idiots don't realize: the whole kit-n-kabootle is nullified for these savages right there esp since THERE IS NO MENTION OF ANYONE CALLED PALESTINIANS IN EITHER THE UN RESOLUTION OR LEAGUE OF NATIONS CHARTER 181!). Abbas needs his fat buttocks kicked out of the land along with his cronies and the MAJORITY of falestinians who REFUSED THE LAND to begin with. Mogrels.
14. Stephen Israel tried that a couple of times
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.11.12)
last time it was for ten months, Abbas refused to sit down and talk until the last month, he diddled the other nine months away,even then he refused to get serious Please, no comments from Germany about "Bad Paths", it seems you have forgotten our six million that were killed by your bad people How dare you lecture us, your land still has the stench of the gas ovens, blow your nose, close your nostrils, inhale the stench
15. Illegal?
Jake Stone ,   USA   (04.11.12)
The only illegal thing...is the Palestinian lie that has been forced-fed to the world.
16. UN Res. 242 makes no mention of "palestine"
Scott Simon ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (04.11.12)
or palestinians. Settlements are 100% legal under international law. No populations have been "transferred". Jews buy property on vacant land & move their willingly. No Arabs have been forced from their villages. There has never been a "Palestine" &^ Jordan's 19 year occupation was never recognized. Since there was no independent palestinian state the territory is disputed, not "occupied"
17. All Israeli settlements violate the fourth Geneva Convention
Alan Smith ,   UK   (04.11.12)
The Palestinians are quite right, the settlements are illegal under International Law. They violate article 49 of the fourth Geneva Convention with the transfer of Israelis by the occupying power into occupied territory - no doubt their American sycophants will abuse their power of veto against any resolution condemning Israeli illegality, as usual, in their support for Israeli colonialism in exchange for Jewish votes.
18. Jews do not illegally occupy Judea & Samaria.
Jane ,   UK   (04.11.12)
A Palestinian state is predicated upon the ethnic cleansing of the entire Jewish population from Judea and Samaria. This enforced expulsion of the Jewish population is contrary to international law. Embedded within the same international law is a legal right for Jews to settle in Judea and Samaria. Professor Howard Grief presents this in detail in his 25 year study, "The Legal Foundation and Borders of Israel Under International Law", as does Professor Julius Stone in his study, "Israel and Palestine; Assault on the Law of Nations". De jure sovereignty over the entire land area of Palestine-Israel was vested unequivocably to the Jewish people as a result of the San Remo Resolution adopted at the San Remo Peace Conference in April 1920, and it was from that moment that the State of Israel derives its legal existence and rebirth as a sovereign nation. The San Remo Resolution is an extremely significant base document that has laid the legal foundation to the State of Israel under international law. It has not been, and indeed cannot be, rescinded, despite the political machinations of pro-Arab bodies. The "Goebbels" process of repeating the lie of Jews illegally occupying ancient Judea and Samaria, has been adopted with such a frequency that most now believe this lie, instead of legally challenging it and showing the statement to be the fraud that it is. The Palestinian leadership have no regard or knowledge of the Jewish heritage in Jerusalem alone, which spans thousands of years, and they certainly have no comprehension of international law. Sadly many legal experts in Israel are lacking in this area too. This is a subject that needs to be addressed strongly and professionally.
19. The West Bank Is not Israel
Yossi normal Israeli   (04.11.12)
Israel never annexed the West Bank and it is consider an occupied territory. Israel doesn’t want to annex the West bank because they don’t want to give citizenship and equal rights to 2.5 million Palestinians. Most of the settlements were build on that was stolen from Palestinians owners, I saw it few times when I was a soldier in the West Bank.
20. To: Jane at No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.12)
Thank you very much for your brilliant and articulate post!
21. there are illegal settlements all over Israel
jack bauer   (04.11.12)
they are arab settlements full of arab settlers, who illegally occupy Israel. San Remo conference was clear. Jews live in the land given to the Jews, non jews are guests in the land, if they act against Jews they should be thrown out!
22. #19 Mahmoud
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (04.11.12)
Just because you believe a lie, doesn't make the lie true. Regarding your allegation that settlements were built on stolen land. False. If you really have any proof, go immediately to Yariv Oppenheimer, he has a special fund to pay you for the information. As for the rest of your letter, it is true that members of the Israeli extreme Left consider Golan, Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria "occupied territory" and many of them also consider the rest of Israel occupied. But that does not make it so. Years ago, the now non-existent sane Left (such as Rabin) did not annex the liberated territories because they wanted to give the Arabs some control of parts of Judea and Samaria as part of a peace deal. In the meantime, the Zionists' belief that such a compromise is a non-starter has been proven.
23. "Settlements are illegal"
William ,   Israel   (04.11.12)
No matter how many times you say, it doesn't make it true. The truth exists in the paper your side signed in front of the world - the Oslo Accords - which allowed for settlement expansion and inclusion inside Israel's re-drawn borders after negotiations.
24. #19 - It's considered occupied territory by the public
William ,   Israel   (04.11.12)
but not by Intl Law. There is a difference, and we know the right one to follow - that is, if we are a nation of laws as opposed to the self-righteous liberals who ignore laws for their own agenda. As a soldier in the West Bank, were you given the land records from the Ottoman-era, or are you making an assumption that a barren hilltop did belong to some "Palestinian" though they do not cultivate it or live there? If you want 2.5 million hostiles living next to you, I suggest you move to Ramallah. I for one do not want people who necessarily want my death to be equal citizens. They were offered this in 1949 under UNR194 and refused as it meant being loyal to Israel and following law, including an end to aggression. They refused. You also forget that a good portion of land in the West Bank claimed by Arabs was Jewish before the 1949 ethnic cleansing. I guess since you didn't see it, it didn't happen, right? Although I can understand your enamoration of them. You share the trait of disloyalty and a self-absorb personality.
25. #17Alan Smith.By your logic,so do Channel Islands.
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (04.11.12)
What the PA and its camp followers call"occupied territories" ceased to be occupied territories after the 1967 war.Before they were illegally occupied by Transjordan and Egypt when those countries' forces and those of other Arab League countries illegally invaded in 1948 in order to defy the will of the UN,they were legally part of the territory of the Palestine Mandate.That legal status was never changed and the 1967 war simply reunified the whole of the Palestine Mandate,the territory in the whole of which the Jews have rights under the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. During WW2 the Channel Islands were illegally occupied by German invaders and became detached from the UK.If we follow Alan Smith to a logical conclusion the Channel Islands are now occupied territory....occupied by the UK!!Even more,by the same logic,NO territory aggressively occupied by invaders can ever be reinstated to its previous legal status. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
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