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My response to Gunter Grass
Manfred Lahnstein
Published: 11.04.12, 18:43
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1. Thank you, Dr. Lahnstein!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.12)
Do you suppose anyone will suggest to Grass that if he has truly grown "tired" of the "hypocrisy of the West," he could move to Iran? No pipe and no schnapps, of course, but eye-opening nonetheless.
2. Lahnstein
horst ,   ge   (04.11.12)
How very fortunate to find the one and only ex German politician who is a governor of a Jewish University to attack Grass. I could have been worse it might have been that Italian idiot Meotti....
3. horst #2
EZ   (04.11.12)
Can you rebut the substance of what Lahnstein says rather than attack his credibility? No. Because he is right. The poem is second rate as literature. And Grass is unqualified as a political analyst. He makes ridiculous claims that are patently false. Lahnstein points them out clearly. PS: Haifa University is not a "Jewish University" in neither a religious nor an ethnic sense. Lots of Arab Muslim and Arab Christian and Arab Druze students and faculty.
4. That was a very good answer to M. Grass
Xavier ,   Paris   (04.11.12)
That's exactly what israel should have answered instead of this pathetic 'no it is not Israel but Iran that did this or that' and 'no more talk' with an ex-nazi. Israel should be clear, organized and always ready to explain our enemies our point of view even when this person has twisted logic and will never change his mind toward Israel (like Mr Grass, clearly an antisemite) Israel's goal should be to conquer back public opinion in Europe (that became very anti-israel due to arab propaganda abnd extremely bad PR from Israel over the last two decades).
5. @#2 horst
Arie ,   BaGolan   (04.11.12)
All peoples everywhere are grateful that the new age nazis like yourself are in the EXTREME minority. Germany has taken many steps to insure the likes of hitler never rise again. Appears they missed you
6. Genuflect, bow your head, cross yourself
Steven Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.11.12)
...when you speak of Jews or Israel, for they are G-d's "Chosen People", and they can do no wrong, even if they drag the whole world into a nuclear war, aka the "Sampson Option." "...the strategy floated by Ariel Sharon and others of using Israel's nuclear weapons, possibly damaging the entire world, if Israel faces annihilation"
7. Words well spoken.
tiki ,   belgium   (04.11.12)
8. #2, horst, not Meotti, but YOU are an idiot !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (04.11.12)
9. @ #2 "horst"
Shimon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (04.11.12)
And your family name would be "wesselied"?
10. Mr. Lahnstein...WHY was it, that your former
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (04.11.12)
boss Helmut Schmidt, never ever set foot on Israels soil ??? Hmmm???
11. Bravo
R Blum, PhD   (04.11.12)
Many Survivors & their families will surely appreciate the obvious reality-reversal current among much of the European elite, which you elegantly & succinctly point out. What is worrying are the socioeconomic, strategic, & political conditions under which this kind of mass delusion thrives. Thank you for trying to wake up a dreaming Europe.
12. ***Sarah***at 1, GraSS is as bad as the
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (04.11.12)
Ape man...they are in fact SOULMATES !
13. to 2
baha ,   jerusalem   (04.11.12)
Meotti is not an idiot but he wears a larger suit than his size .and most of the people not in haifa but allover the world do the same ,,,salamat to evryone
14. ISRAEL REDEMPTION
isaias 29   (04.11.12)
not becomes here a very short time the lebanon fruitful field and the fertile field will be estimated by forest? at the time the deaf hear the words of the book and the eyes of the blind will see in the midst of the darkness and the darkness then the humble will grow in joy in lord and even the poorest of men shall enjoy in holy israel because the violent will be finished and the scorner is consumed,shall be destroyed all those who reveal to do iniquity those who have sin the man in word that repress at the door and perverted the cause of the vanity fair therefore lord who redeemed avraham and said to the house of yaakov,it will not now be ashamed yaakov or your face will be pale because you will see their children,work of my hands in the middle of them which sanctify my name,they sanctify the holy of yaakov and may fear to God israel,the lost spirit will learn intelligence and the mourners will learn doctrine
15. To: No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.12)
Sorry. By the way, it's "Samson," not "Sampson." And if you don't like it, you should do your level best to work towards ensuring that Israel remains on that tiny sliver of land and that Arabs and Moslems learn to make do with 99.9% of the Middle East. The Samson Option is a very real thing. You see, over the millennia, Jews have grown quite tired of being locked into their synagogues which were subsequently set ablaze; we have grown quite tired of being massacred in the hundreds of thousands during the Crusads and in the hundreds of thousands during the plague years; we have grown quite tired of blood libel charges and pogroms and the Holocaust is a very real subject to us, not simply something in a history book. We are tired of good old-fashioned anti-Semitism masquerading as anti-Zionism. We are tired of seeing the ersatz "Palestinians" -- who are nothing more than a terrorist rabble -- feted like diplomats. We have grown quite tired of over thirty years of rhetoric out of Teheran promising to "wipe the 'Zionist entity' from the map." We have grown especially tired of ignoramuses such as yourself. If push comes to shove, and Israel feels its destruction is imminent, Israel will not go alone. We will take as much of the world with us as we can -- Israel has a VERY long reach -- and we will render the rest of it uninhabitable for 100,000 years. The best part? You have only yourselves to blame.
16. To: Xavier at No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.12)
I disagree. The response is much more effective coming from a third party who is not Jewish.
17. No.2, Mr Horst S - - t .
Nevertheless   (04.11.12)
Of course, the German ex-politician is wrong according to you, disqualifying him for being "tinted" because of his connection to Haifa University which, as already mentioned, is the most multi-ethnic university in Israel. So, where does it leave you? Naturally, in Grass' camp which is also the Iranian camp. Have a good one-way flight to Tehran and enjoy freedom there ! You deserve it pin head.
18. #10 Rottenloser
rolf ,   ge   (04.11.12)
Very simple. For obvious historical reasons every western politician supports Israel, However the reality is they loath the dump. A visit unless you are US congressman is a guarantee of political oblivion.
19. Go Sing Your Song Somewhere Else, Host
Frankie Littlehammer ,   New Herstal, Texas   (04.11.12)
Go sing your song somewhere else, Horst #2. Did you get any of the 25 million free Korans given out in Germany? Go try to give out Bibles in Yemen, Saudi or Iran.
20. #to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19
sick mind ,   from mental hospital   (04.11.12)
what the hell mean to judge others? would you like anyone judge you? live and let live
21. VIRTUAL IS NOT REAL,IT´S AN ILLUSION
sick mind ,   from mental hospital   (04.11.12)
CANNOT TOUCH,CANNOT SPEAK,CANNOT SMELL,CANNOT FEEL,CANNOT HEAR,IT CANNOT SENSE!!! THINK YOU ARE ALL AROUND MANY PEOPLE BUT IN REALITY YOU ARE ALONE IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER
22. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.12)
Well, I guess if your taste runs to barren wasteland and rotting slums that is the hallmark of the Arab and Moslem Middle East, you probably won't like the tiny paradise on earth that is Israel, painstakingly reclaimed by the Jews -- which is why the ersatz "Palestinian" squatters flocked there in the first place following World War I. That said -- good. Stay away. We have enough Arabs polluting our wonderful country; your presence is neither sought nor desired.
23. Israel threatens whole world
fed up   (04.11.12)
when politicians and blowhards like Big Mouth here on Ynet suggest that Israel will take the whole world down with it if it faces defeat by its neighbors , it positions itself as the biggest threat to all nations on earth. If Russia or China launched a preemptive strike on Israel to destroy it the whole world would breathe a sigh of relief.
24. #6 Steve Benassi - WRONG AGO
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.11.12)
Jews don't cross themselves or Genuflect, you're as accurate as you are in your others posts, which doesn't speak to welll for you If any when Israel is threatened with annihilation, rest assured, it won't happen again, if it should, woe help him that tries to do it Think of this, within your limited about of brain power "NEVER AGAIN"
25. Similar to a BBC trick
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (04.11.12)
In 2008 the BBC transmitted a radio dramatisation of Nevil Shute's novel,"On the Beach". It distorted the events that led up to the nuclear destruction of the world by having the narrator say that it was Israel's nuking of Damascus that was the point of no return that led to the final destruction.That wasn't Nevil Shute's line,but I suppose it must have fitted better into somebody else's agenda. Now we know Grass's agenda. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
26. Lahnstein's rant
graczek ,   Maryland, USA   (04.12.12)
So Guenter Grass has an anti-Zionist bias? So do most rational people in this world. Former Minister Lahnstein's rant against Nobel Laureate Grass, along with his high association with a major Zionist university brings his rationality into serious question.
27. Steve Benassi
Alex ,   New York USA   (04.12.12)
Is your work at the retirement home so unfulfilling that you fill your time with an obsessive hatred of Jews. The residents are no doubt rye recipients of your hatred.
28. My answer is much simpler
Steve from Raleigh   (04.12.12)
Mr Grass You are a Nazi, a true believer, a volunteer to the worst of the worst of the worst, who's only reason for existence was the mass murder of millions. You signed on willingly. And for decades you hid the truth because you knew that if ever discovered not only would you be exposed as a fraud you could have been prosecuted and sent to jail for the rest of your life. But now you're old and famous and you know that no matter what, you have immunity so you're once again free to unleash your deeply felt inner Nazi. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. The dead voices of millions cry out for justice. Justice for you that will be avoided because your nation and your protectors want finally to be rid of their shame, YOUR shame. But we know that one cannot shame the shameless. One cannot extract justice from an animal. And you are that soulless animal beyond human mercy and justice, fit only for the 'processing' you applied on the helpless. If there is a hell for beasts and animals, you will wind up there.
29. To: No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.12.12)
Gunter Grass hid his Waffen SS affiliation until 2006. What does that bring into serious question about him? By the way, it is not a "Zionist" university. It is an Israeli university, which is open to all Israelis, irrespective of ethnicity or religion, and its faculty is indeed of all ethnicities and religions. You are so blinded by irrational hatred of Jews and of the State of Israel. What a sorry and pathetic existence you must lead! You are truly an object to be scorned and pitied. How it must gall you to see the bright and shining star that is the State of Israel! Good. Keep up the apopleptic fits. With any luck, you'll stroke out soon enough -- with my only regret being that you wll not live to see the State of Israel prevail over all her enemies -- foreign and domestic.
30. Bravo to the author, an objective text
Borislava ,   Sofia, Bulgaria   (04.12.12)
Shame for Grass what he has slapped with the trowel. I understand smart text, but I have a problem with the nonsense. Nobel Prize is not mandatory an argument for authenticity and truth, but it must be a personal responsibility (however). The man will learn, let's give him a chance to read and other authors
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