Opinion  Giulio Meotti
World's checkpoint hypocrisy
Giulio Meotti
Published: 10.05.12, 11:51
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1. barriers and hypocrisy
Martin Goodman ,   ny   (05.10.12)
How many suicide attacks took place after the barrier? ZERO. That's all
2. your walls are built on land that doesnt belong to you
ghs   (05.10.12)
and is designed to steal even more land under the guise of keeping Israel safe. The wall does keep Israel safe, but it also performs its other function very well too. simple.
3. Another fully truthful observation by Mr.Meotti, but it's
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.10.12)
like acknowledging that the sea is salty; yes- so what? We, the Jews have known it for ages and have not yet come up with a cure
4. Telling it like it is...
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (05.10.12)
This is true, but being told to the already convinced. How about the newspapers in the rest of the world?
5. europe enjoy your imigrants be happy
miriam ,   israel   (05.10.12)
let my people go.
6. thanks mr. meotti, you need courage to say this
Monsonego Daniel   (05.10.12)
7. there is a huge difference
Mike   (05.10.12)
all countries u mentioned built walls and barriers on their own land not on stolen land .... go back to your countries and build how many walls u want !!!!
8. Yes if the world is a small village then Israel
Yossef   (05.10.12)
is its jewish quarter.
9. #2 And they belong to you?
Yossef   (05.10.12)
10. #2 - Of course it's our land
Chaya ,   Bat Yam   (05.10.12)
You're just another ignorant Leftist.
11. Apples and oranges
Cynthia ,   Canada   (05.10.12)
But the sheep will eat up this article by Meotti (whose "logic" only appeals to the low-IQ or the closed-minded, hyper-militant, far-right.)
12. A scary man and distorted facts
dennis ,   Tel Aviv   (05.10.12)
There is no problem with being walls. The problem is the wall zigging and zagging into the west bank in ways no one can explain. Israel can exist just fine without checkpoints. The price of treating everyone like an enemy is not worth it. Not for Palestinians and not for Israelis as it corrupts their souls. I'm also curious as to where on earth you fielded the statistic "explosive belts and bombs are regularly detected at the check points" I don't think its happened once in the past 5 years forsure
13. to#2 ghs
Marcelo ,   Berlin / TLV   (05.10.12)
since the fence there are almost zero suicide bombs, no car thief around arab cities, less attacks on civileans and almost no security checks in restaurants, bars, malls, etc...you surely no live in Israel nor you have visited her. Israel does not still any peace of land. It were arabs who lost wars after wars on disputed territory. Jordan invaded Israel and captured the west bank (have you ever though about the name, west bank? west from what??) Speak only after your live and country are examples. Till then, shut up.
14. #2
JL ,   NYC   (05.10.12)
You attacked Israel. You lost. You're lucky to be alive. If you don't like the rules of war go back to Jordan or wherever you came from.
15. The only remotely comparable wall is the one in Belfast
esnuffnstl ,   USA   (05.10.12)
And that wall has support of people on both sides. Does the Israeli wall have support on both sides? The majority of the other borders mentioned by the author are on internationally-recognized borders. A truly strange article whose logic seems to be that all walls, whatever the circumstances, are equal. A wall is a wall, right? What if the US decided to build a wall that cut Tel Aviv in half. Hey, a wall is a wall, right? Let's see which of the usual idiots buy Meotti's argument.
16. Seriously? I mean, seriously?
TaylorT ,   Earth   (05.10.12)
Please tell me Meotti is attempting his hand at satire. This might be too much of a logical stretch even for the typical Ynet poster. Except for Ben Jabo and Chaim, of course. They'll buy this.
17. Meotti rationalizes terror
Tom ,   USA   (05.10.12)
70 years ago a central European nation had "intellectuals" who spoke out in favor of harsh treatment of minorities and tough "anti-terror" laws and tactics. How sad to watch Israel go down the same path. It's the occupation causing Israel all these problems. When that ends, Israel's soul will return. Right now Israelis are so lost that there are probably some who will agree with this convoluted logic put forth in this article.
18. The funny thing
Steve from Raleigh   (05.10.12)
Is that soon there will be Islamic Autonomous Zones in EU countries which function more or less like ghettos, for a few years at least. Until the Europeans find themselves on the other side of the wall living in infidel ghettos, living by the sufferance of their Muslim overlords.
19. #11 Apples and Oranges are still fruits
Yossef   (05.10.12)
20. When the US removes the walls along Mexico
(05.10.12)
only THEN ANYBODY has ANY right to preach to Israel!
21. #17 You Sir, rationalize terror!
(05.10.12)
How dare you compare the bloodthirsty enemies bent on Israel's genocide, to the situation 60 years ago in Europe? 60 years ago CE was a cespool of Royalists, Maoists, Czarists and tons of migrants fighting each other. Israel of today is the result of the return of the Jewish People to its ancestral and historical HOMELAND, only to be attacked by gangs of squatters, mainly made of lazy land thieves, racists and criminals (AKA the "palestinians"), and later on by combined armies by greedy and racist "neighbors" AKA "The Arab States". While Israel's contiouous presence is documented throughout the written and oral history, the so-called "palestinians"'s attempt to "glory" is the fact that they got the Jewish lands from the Muslim/Turkish occupiers - hence it's stolen land. It seems that you failed all your history classes, but passed the demagogy, disinformation and racism classes with flying colors. Nice try but your pathetic garbage and attempt to reverse the roles of victim and victimizer has failed again. Don't worry for our soul - we are AT HOME so there is no occupation to deal with - except for the occupation of Jewish lands by the Muslims imported squatters, slaves and criminals. Don't worry for our soul, "Sir". Our soul is well and clear. I wonder however if YOU have any.
22. #7 stolen land
Sam M ,   UK   (05.10.12)
This is nothing more than your opinion and a grossly ill-informed one at that. In order for land to be stolen it has to have belonged to someone else in the first place. The Land of israel which includes the west bank or to give it it's proper historical name, Judea and Samaria, as recorded on numerous ancient maps and in many historical accounts only ever belonged to the Jewish people and to no one else. A fact also supported by a wealth of archaeological evidence. Since the 'palestinian people' only discovered their identity as recently as the 1960s they certainly don't qualify as owners of the land which in any case has been non-sovereign territory for hundreds of years. Loaded terms like 'occupation' and 'stolen' don't stand up to scrutiny and are just convenient 'labels' for the 'hard of thinking' like you.
23. Taylor pontificates smug & safe at others expense.
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (05.10.12)
Dont bother with the "occupation" slogan,the Arabs have been at it,killing Jews here for centuries,long before the "Zionist" slogan. BTW In a recent ignorant attempt at baiting you just happened to omit that the IDF is outnumbered and outgunned at least 5:1,the Arabs have WMD's and have used them while Israel has minimal land to fall back to.,while your side has endless fall back space to regroup.
24. ghs.where are the borders? No recognised borders was at Arab
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (05.10.12)
insistence and UNSCR 242 says the borders are to be negotiated. Should of thought of that after the failed war of annihilation and switching to terror. When are you going to claim the vast majority of the mandate in Jordan or is your real problem Dar Al Islam?
25. thanks a lot Meotti for telling hard truths
Nadin ,   Israel   (05.10.12)
26. #2 Ignorant?
Yaron ,   Israel   (05.10.12)
The barrier is not build in Israel. It is build mostly in the West Bank and sometimes cuts villages in 2. As far as I know, the West Bank is not part of Israel. Israel does not recognize the West Bank part of its territory.Israeli law does not apply there. And most of the citizens there are not entitled to the Israeli nationality. Only jews are. It is as if USA build a barrier 5 km into Mexico, all Mexican citizens cannot travel freely. Some of their villages are cut in 2.
27. #22
Yaron ,   Israel   (05.10.12)
hmm, hmm, gross ill-informed. Well calling it stolen, it not exactly right. But it is occupied land. And even on occupied land there some basic laws that you have to apply and Israel is not doing so. And Israel does not want to recognize that land as proper Israel, because otherwise it would have to grant all of its citizen the Israeli nationality. This is something that is not desired.
28. israel is allowed to build all the checkpoints and walls it
abdalla   (05.10.12)
wants!!! but build them in your own country and on your own land. the checkpoints and wall isn't for security its for land grabs and to keep the occupation in place!!
29. #15 You are hopping mad, aren't you? If so, I AM HAPPY!
(05.10.12)
Before the "wall" - hundreds of Israelis (Jews and non-Jews) were murdered by coward and drugged suicide bombers. After the "wall" (or more correctly Separation Fence) the score is ZERO! If you blame a life-saving "wall" then I know exactly on which side of it you are. If so, GOOD RIDDANCE.
30. The wall is a tool to steal land and water
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor, UK   (05.10.12)
Nowhere is this more clear than around Qalqilya, which used to be the bread basket of Palestine. The town has been cut off from its fertile farmlands and water sources to the west, north and south. The wall encircles the town like a strangulating noose, leaving only one small passage on the east to go in and out. There are numerous other examples, which belie the claim the that the wall was primarily built for security purposes. If it would have been for security it would have been built on the armistice line of 1949. A look at the map shows that the wall is much longer, snaking deep into occupied Palestinian territory, bringing illegal Israeli colonies on the western side of the wall. The last Palestinian suicide attack took place in April 2008. One of the important reasons why suicide attacks have ceased - and this is routinely omitted by Israeli hasbara - was a political decision by Palestinian organisations like Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade to stop them, because they saw too that suicide attacks were harming the Palestinian cause. To this day there are still wide gaps in the separation wall. It is true that the building of the wall has made it more difficult for a would be suicide attacker to penetrate. But any determined suicide bomber would be able to find a possibility to get in through the wide gaps that have been left open. As a matter of fact because of the absence of any suicide attacks since April 2008 Israel's government does not find it necessary to reserve funds to build the remaining sections of the wall/fence! I have always been strongly opposed to suicide attacks, because of their indiscriminate nature. Many innocents have been killed and these attacks have undermined the justness of the Palestinian cause. But Israel's claim that the building of the wall was just for protective reasons is hypocritical. Not only is this wall a monstrosity, carving up this ancient land, it is the only wall in the world designed to steal land and water resources from an indigenous population.
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