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Keep our Israel Jewish
Yoav Keren
Published: 23.05.12, 18:03
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1. african infiltrators
brian ,   phil usa   (05.23.12)
plenty of room here deport all to usa
2. Couldn't agree more!
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.23.12)
This article hits the nail on the head! For me, it's not about crime, it's about demography. Israel's tax money should not be going to subvert its population by domestic welfare to the illegal immigrants. Call me a bigot all you want, but Israel MUST remain a Jewish state.
3. Right on Brother!
Jessie Cohen ,   Israel   (05.23.12)
4. you are NOT aware of the DEEPNESS of your XENOPHOBIA.
hot snow ,   tlv   (05.23.12)
5. Amazing
Anonymous Israeli ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (05.23.12)
Couldn't have said it any better. Good Job. Hope the government will do something about it soon!
6. Jewish Homeland
Rochel ,   Los Angeles, USA   (05.23.12)
Israel is a Jewish homeland. The infiltrators have to be deported. It's a mess.
7. #4 You are not aware of history
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.23.12)
Every place we Jews have gone & every time we've allowed others to rule us, we have been persecuted and faced with annihilation. We must maintain our majority in our homeland and we must retain sovereignty over ourselves. Immigration is fine, but it must be controlled and it MUST BE LEGAL! Just because you choose to bury your head in the sand does not make us xenophobes. If you had to label our mentality, I think "survivalist" fits better.
8. Elephant in the room
Jared ,   Toronto, Canada   (05.23.12)
You're missing the biggest threat to the demographic issue ---- the settlements. I believe this is a far bigger issue and more serious issue that impacts the demographics on the ground. Israel should actually do a proper job this time of providing alternative accomodation for the settlers and entice them to move out. Not like what was done in Gaza. This article just confuses and misdirects the real issue. I don't think it will lead to peace but it's not after suicide bombings so the Palestinians won't ascribe the reason the settlers were removed was due to violence.
9. In the name of consistency
Doug ,   U.S.   (05.23.12)
"Keep our Israel Jewish" also needs to be said to many on the right, who are so fond of supporters from the U.S. that they can not say "no thank you" when various forms of proselytizing occur.
10. 1 reason for deportation - rule of law
Scott ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (05.23.12)
11. NOT XENOPHOBIA. Israel is a JEWISH state with land given by
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (05.23.12)
G-d for the JEWS, not for anyone who decides they should break through the fence. The illegal aliens will destroy Israel if left unchecked and in self-defense they must be deported. Fell sorry for them if you will, but send them home.
12. Re #7
Andrew Brehm ,   Zurich   (05.23.12)
"Every place we Jews have gone & every time we've allowed others to rule us, we have been persecuted and faced with annihilation." Yes, that's pretty much what happened to the African refugees. Should a Jewish state really participate in that game? I think the buck should stop with us. Let us be the nation who doesn't treat others like others (but not the Africans) treated us! Immigration must be controlled and legal? How can an African flee genocide legally and controlled? How is that possible? Greetings to the Jew Huntsville, deep in Amerindian territory.
13. I have heard this before
Tomek ,   Poland   (05.23.12)
"Because this is our only state, and because should we fail to curb the flow of non-Aryans, the first German city, Berlin, will not remain German for long. In 20 years, the German state as a whole may not remain German." As a rule, I avoid reductio ad Hitlerum arguments, but this is very fitting here.
14. Yea! Keep Germany German!
Benjamin Kahane ,   Israel   (05.23.12)
similar tone and content, is it not?
15. This is no different to
James ,   UK   (05.23.12)
"keep our xxx White"
16. Stop the hysteria- they are only 0.4% of the population
Israeli ,   south Tel Aviv   (05.23.12)
There are an estimate 30,000 African asylum seekers in Israel now. That is only 0.4% of the Israeli population. So far there are only 4-5 reported rapes by Africans. Even if that is half the actual amount, that is only 0.3% of the Africans. This is scapegoating.
17. Aliya
Sad Jew ,   Israel   (05.23.12)
How sad that most of the Jews of the world prefer to live outside the Land of Israel, while Africans and other non-Jews would give anything to live here.
18. #12
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.23.12)
I'm stumped. I re-read my post and I couldn't find anywhere in it where I said a Jewish state should participate in the persecution & annihilation of African refugees. I just said we should adhere to the law, and yes, that does apply to immigration. As for "refugees", I'm all for protecting them. But if YOU read many of the articles out there, you'd discover that an extremely small number of the immigrants are actually legally defined as refugees by the Geneva Convention. So yes, I stick by my comment that immigration is fine as long as it's controlled and LEGAL. As far as referencing me with your snide remark - (besides the fact that it exposes you as a Jew-hater) I am a Jew and I am deep in "Amerindian territory" - I was born here. Territory which is quickly becoming Amerexican territory because we can't seem to close our borders here either. Our Mexican illegal immigration problem is worse than Israel's African illegal immigration problem. Fortunately, Israel is still in a position to stave off the problem where my country is all but lost. I expect I will immigrate to Israel before too long. Europe certainly isn't an option as you guys are being over-run by Muslims as fast as America is being over-run by illegals.
19. #13
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.23.12)
The problem with your analogy is that Israel isn't proposing throwing out any LEGAL citizens. They're certainly not proposing to take their property, collect them in labor camps and exterminate them. Also unlike Germany (as you should know my dear Polish friend), Israel isn't invading other countries in the name of racial purity and eradicating the local populations. Liberals such as yourself, as much as you say you "usually take the high road", love to try to equate the current state of Israel with the WWII era state of Nazi Germany. No matter how you try to veil it, you're just another leftist shill.
20. #16
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.23.12)
The article's premise isn't the crime aspect, but the demographic aspect. There are more illegals than just the Africans. You're trying to dismiss an entire argument by name-calling. No matter how much you scream "scapegoating", the issue of illegal immigration needs to be addressed.
21. Palestinians will be natural majority in 10 years
christianpalestinian ,   las vegas   (05.23.12)
22. Keep Israel to the Jews
mounieH ,   Israel   (05.23.12)
Yes keep our Israel Jewish! It took us thousand of years to finally have our land. It is for us and pioneers worked hard for all of us make it a beautiful land! It is already minuscule why should we have all these foreigners spoiling our sacred land! Time to put our foot down, hope this government will know how! Jewish dear land only for US and may the Jews from the diaspora open their eyes and Make massive Alyah to replenish the Holy Land!
23. #12. You are spewing nonsense here
Tom W ,   USA   (05.23.12)
Switzerland set the maximum number of ALL E. Europeans permitted to enter the country: "The quota will affect people from Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Czech Republic and Hungary, limiting the number of permits for citizens of those countries to 2,000." Source: Deutsche Welle http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15892124,00.html Many Europeans like you coming here only to disgorge their rabid hatred while denying the wrongdoing of their own country. Listen up bro, we're perfectly aware of the immigration restrictions imposed by the EU, no need you to troll lies.
24. #13
tejas ,   India   (05.23.12)
Yes, they kept it German with the help of crookes like you. Didn't they? Why don't you take some of these refugees and give them shelter in your home? I will help you with that.
25. Israel as a Jewish State is irrelevent...
Karl ,   Santa Cruz, CA   (05.23.12)
The point at which someone should be deported is when they illegally enter the country. This is the problem here in the US; proper enforcement of existing laws. Now, if you let them in under amnesty, you are out of luck and are stuck with them, good or bad. Now, all this talk of keeping Israel Jewish has me wondering when you'll turn on all the non-practicing Jews in Israel. After all, God gave you this piece of land for you to have for yourselves and no one else. If they don't follow the God of Israel as much as you, you should kick them out as well. Where does it stop?
26. #12 AFRICANS HAVE A HOME,HE CONTINENT OF AFRICA
...DACON9   (05.23.12)
JEWS HAVE A HOME CALLED ISRAEL. WHAT AFRICANS FLEE IS THEIR OWN POLTICAL SYSTEM. YOU ARE CONFUSED, JEWS FLED NAZISM AND HATE WORLD WIDE AND RETURNED TO THEIR HOMELAND. AFRICANS MUST RETURN TO *THEIR HOME AFRICA AND RUSSIAN NON JEWS MUST RETURN TO RUSSIAN THAT THEY LOVE SO WELL AND ARABS IN ISRAEL MUST RETURN TO SYRIA AND EGYPT .THERE ! , NOW ITS SETTLED.
27. Keep Israel Jewish
Israel   (05.23.12)
Right on yes Why do the Jews stay inthe diaspora and suffer from antisemitism while they have a beautiful land and wonderful people waiting to embrace them! Right on you got it so right
28. Re #18
Andrew Brehm ,   Zurich   (05.23.12)
"I'm stumped. I re-read my post and I couldn't find anywhere in it where I said a Jewish state should participate in the persecution & annihilation of African refugees." You should be stumped. You don't even realise that whether or not refugees can find asylum somewhere is the important question during times of persecution. Wouldn't it have made a difference If countries had welcomed Jewish refugees before and during World War 2? What happens to Africans in Sudan is in fact annihilation. South Sudan suffered 2 million dead in the "Civil War" (which was in fact an Arab regime killing machine) and Darfur suffered hundreds of thousands of dead too. That's why Sudanese Africans flee to Egypt. They believe in Israel. South-Sudanese Christians believe that the Jews are the people of G-d. Darfurian Muslims believe that Arab stories about Israel are lies. Nuba and Nubians and other non-Arab ethnic groups are severely persecuted (and often enslaved) in Sudan. It is NOW that they need our help. And it is now that you say that Israel should expel them. It's a great way to behave towards our friends as almost every country in the world behaved towards us in the past. Please, do behave like them. But don't pretend that expelling refugees has nothing to do with persecution and annihilation and don't pretend that personal remarks against YOU have anything to do with Jew-hatred. "As far as referencing me with your snide remark - (besides the fact that it exposes you as a Jew-hater) " According to your logic, you hate Africans. Obviously I do not hate Jews. If I did, I would recommend that Jews behave just like non-Jews and forget about their own past. But you talk about people being where they don't belong. Who says that a Jew belongs in America but that Africans don't belong in Israel?
29. #23
Andrew Brehm ,   Zurich   (05.23.12)
"Switzerland set the maximum number of ALL E. Europeans permitted to enter the country: " Hm... I didn't say that Switzerland didn't do that and nor did I say anything about Switzerland at all, except mentioning that I live in Zurich. I am not Swiss either. I have also not said anything about EU immigration restrictions. And nor did I deny European wrongdoing. So if I said nonsense, why is your explanation a complete non-sequitur? Where is the connection to what I said?
30. Re #26
Andrew Brehm ,   Zurich   (05.23.12)
Swiss keyboards have lots of characters that require, can you believe it, the CAPS LOCK key to be pressed to be accessed. This sometimes leads to CAPS LOCK being active when not needed. I encountered this often. It's quite fascinating because it has an influence on how software must be designed. I assume something similar happened to you when you typed the message. But that aside, I agree that Jews have a home called Israel. That's why I was openly wondering about the Jew far from home who nevertheless felt he had to have an opinion about Africans far from their home. I'm afraid Sudanese Africans do not flee their own political system. They flee Arab tyranny. What better ally to seek than Israel. It's a pity they were so wrong about that. Jews, unfortunately, couldn't flee Nazism, because other countries wouldn't have them. Can you understand those other countries' attitudes? I cannot. Yes, it's "settled" now. Ignorance and hatred have prevailed. Thank you very much for your wisdom. And do get your CAPS LOCK key problem fixed.
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