Opinion
Israel’s migrant fiasco
Yoaz Hendel
Published: 25.05.12, 14:06
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1. Ruth the Moabite . .
The Prophetess ,   SC, USA   (05.25.12)
"is a beautiful story that teaches us about receiving foreigners and others in Judaism." Dear Yoaz, if things were only as simple in today's world. Google Rudyard Kipling's controversial poem, "The White Man's Burden." and realize how today, Israel, like every other Western democracy, has become "burdened" by its "charitable intentions. " TAKE UP THE WHITE MAN'S BURDEN, Send forth the best ye breed-- Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need; To wait in heavy harness, On fluttered folk and wild-- Your new-caught, sullen peoples, Half-devil and half-child.
2. Adon Hendel is ABSOLUTELY...
Gideon Reader   (05.25.12)
...correct. Government, doing what it does best. Screwing things up and doing it it a huge price. A festering problem that need not exist. Solutions that can be implemented and with relative ease. The problems and their solutions are limited. Delay means stupidity is the answer chosen by the government.
3. I wouldn't call it a fiasco.
leo ,   usa   (05.25.12)
Jews are only now, after 2000 years, are learning behavior of title race and mistakes are inevitable. However, I also see that mistakes are being slowly corrected.
4. BIBI WILL DO WHAT HE DOES BEST
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (05.25.12)
Nothing....
5. NOTHINGYAHU WILL DO NOTHING
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (05.25.12)
6. Israelis too busy blaming others to solve their problems
Daniel ,   UK   (05.25.12)
Just look at this site whenever a non-Israeli DARES to say anything is wrong with Israel. Israelis go ballistic. Much like little children when their candy is taken away. While all nations are currently facing challenges, no one has any doubt that all will still be there in a few decade's time. Not Israel. If its people don't start taking a hard, honest look at what their nation is doing, then Israel is doomed.
7. Correction: Ruth was an Israelite
Devorah   (05.25.12)
Ruth, her husband and two sons lived in Bethlehem and moved to the land of Moab because of a severe famine. - Ruth 1:2 Ruth's mother-in-law, Naomi/Mara was from the tribe of Judah. - Ruth 1:7 Ergo, Ruth was born with an Israelite ID card, and her story has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the article.
8. #6 DANIEL
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (05.25.12)
We certainly do NOT " go ballistic " but ,as you do not reside here in Israel , the day to day problems and challenges of life here do not affect you .
9. #7 - Facts wrong
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.25.12)
You misquoted the book of Ruth. It was Naomi, her husband & two sons that moved to Moab. Naomi's son married Ruth, a Moabite. Her "Israeli ID card" wasn't issued until she became a Jew. As for the author of the article: Comparing the African immigrants to Ruth is disingenuous at best. The primary difference between the two being that Ruth embraced Judaism and quite literally bound her fate with that of the Jewish people. The immigrants coming here today have to allegiance to Israel or the Jewish people, only the prospect of welfare.
10. Idiotic Israeli gov't is to blame
Californian Jew ,   USA   (05.25.12)
Why oh why do the Jews insist on shooting themselves in the foot? I saw the slums by the bus station and I knew this would be a serious problem. But why would Israel allow these people to enter the country? Israel has enough problems with the arabs..why take on more?? Are Israelis just dying to experience a Watts Riot or Rodney King adventure? It's crazy!
11. #6 I have doubts
Sidney ,   USA   (05.25.12)
That there will be a Great Britain in a couple of decades. Both Scotland and Wales want out. Despite your hopes, Israel is here to stay. It is the most stable country in the Middle East.
12. Better Late Than Never
Ron ,   OC US   (05.25.12)
But Bibi better get a handle on the illegal immigration issue or Israel be black and no Jews. While he is at it Israel has a problem with Arab illegals as well. This threat is immediate and is at least the threat of Iran.
13. This article forgets something....
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (05.25.12)
Many of the illegal aliens are Muslim. Therefore, they already come with an agenda. They don't come with an open mind or willingness to even consider... for one moment... about assimilating in Israel, becoming Israeli, being productive or even contributing. Part of their Muslim background includes large chips on their shoulder, lazy and violent with criminal backgrounds. They see Tel Aviv in particular as a "soft touch" and a real "piece of cake". They are from a background where raping women is "OK" and being violent is a way of life. Considering the above, the best way is to flush this garbage out of Israel before some of these "refugees" get their hands on GUNS and start real crime sprees. If you think rape is bad, just wait for home invasions, car jackings, organised crime +++.
14. How nice
Doug ,   U.S.   (05.25.12)
I have an original idea that no one has ever thought of before: Instead of assigning primary responsibility to the criminals, let's blame society!
15. Bibi is obsessed to "please the world"...
Keren ,   IL-BR   (05.25.12)
....thinking that " the world" will help him in the Iran issue.IT WONT! The " world"will tight Israel more and more with their theater, playing the friends and making Bibi the cover of " newsweek"(wow!)making he think he is the king. Recently,"the world" called for an united drill with NATO and Israel was not invited.It was not invited without any shame;it was not invited despite Isreal keeping helping NATO. "The world" is not interested in Isreal´s survival and well being;if "the world" sees these African muslims invading Israel,they might aplaud that together with those who are sending and encouraging them to enter Israel and destroy it as much as they can. Bibi´s on]bligation is to protect Israel WHITIN AND WITHOUT. If Bibi has been asked to risk our internal security in charge of more millions of US dollars in "aid" and in lies ,making fools think that they will help Israel to attack Iran,sit and wait because they wont.Or if yes,our price willbe too high. Bibi is deluded with his " world friends",forgetting that he was ellected to be friend of ISRAEL AND NOT OF HER ENEMIES.
16. #13 Absolutely agreed!
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17. If Hendel is correct ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.25.12)
.... and the Sudanese refugees are deliberately transported to Tel Aviv (I hadn't heard that), wouldn't it make far more sense to transport them to Arab villages? Arabic is one of the two official languages of Sudan -- even the southern Sudanese would be Arabic-speakers. Of course, rape won't go over very well in the Arab community, but that would be the illegals' problem.
18. Using Ruth for your own bennefit
Melchizedek ,   Sion   (05.25.12)
Ruth didnot convert to judaïsm as Jezus was not the leader of christianity and Abraham was not à muslim
19. #13 You forget something...
#13 You forget som ,   Sanders, Earth   (05.26.12)
I'm not sure if it's funny or downright pathetic to read a jew complaining about other's lack of assimilation capabilities. I've traveled a lot in my life and I've never seen your community blending much anywhere in the world.
20. Running away from fixing their own country.
LG ,   Australia   (05.26.12)
Israel wrenched theirs from oppressive British rule and got it up and running. It's was terribly costly but they had (and still have) the guts for it.
21. #7 - Amichai
Devorah   (05.26.12)
You're right. I stand corrected.
22. 15
(05.26.12)
Keren, Keren. Keren, what has happened to your command of the English language? Do you ever re-red your posts before submitting them?
23. TOTAL ASSIMILATION - OR TOTAL EVICTION
Andrew ,   Miami   (05.26.12)
24. What needs to be done with the African refugee’s crisis?
Yakov ,   Israel   (05.26.12)
In my opinion ALL African ‎Nations should bring this terrible refugee crisis before the UN. They should demand that ‎the UN change the charter of the UNWRA from the loafers of the THIRD ‎GENERATION of "Falestinian Refugees?" to these ACTUAL and REAL refugees! ‎ The Africans THEMSELVES must challenge the status of the children, grandchildren, ‎and great-grandchildren of Palestinian refugees who claim refugee status despite the fact ‎that they reside stateless in the Arab nations they were born in! The REAL and dire need ‎of African refugees NOW must be handled under the auspices of UNWRA not these free ‎loafers. The African Nations and the US should enforce this by bringing suit in The ‎Hague! Israel should deport ALL the African refugees to settlement camps in EGYPT to ‎be built with the THREE BILLION US$ Tax dollars given to EGYPT since BY LAW the ‎Egyptians were OBLIGATED by the Peace Treaty to prevent the Africans from ‎transgressing SINAI.‎
25. color
bill ,   canada   (05.26.12)
israel lives beside over a billion black people and over a billion arab people; beating these people up must stop
26. To whoever has written #22,here it goes my message:
Keren ,   IL-BR   (05.26.12)
Mind your own business.
27. To: No. 22
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.27.12)
Do you ever RE-READ yours?
28. EMET!!!!!
Yossi ,   Houston/Israel   (05.27.12)
29. government workers not the sharpest knives in the drawer
Lena   (05.27.12)
once you make aliyah to Israel and talk to some of these officials you will get a sinking feeling, realising you've just boarded a ship of utter idiots.
30. Correction #7 - Ruth/Naomi
Lena   (05.27.12)
Dear number 7, it's important to not have TOO MUCH CHEESECAKE prior to engaging in your torah study, clearly your mind was dulled at the time of writing that talk-back...
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