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Chosen people? Not quite
Dina Avramson
Published: 28.05.12, 10:02
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61. gods reps???, are you kidding?, are you sure of this??
joelle   (05.28.12)
62. Sinful but not forsaken
Jody ,   tulsa, united states   (05.28.12)
For Israel has not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel. For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
63. "Chosen People"
Rita ,   Salt Lake City UT   (05.28.12)
God says he chose the Jewish people because he loves them. Here you go: God gave his Law to the Jews. If you want to please God, do you continue to live your own way, or do you do as the Jews and follow God????
64. #31 Moshe, another scripture to ponder
(05.28.12)
After what #60 suggested, read Psalm 2:12
65. CP # 55
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (05.28.12)
As a Christian I believe in Gods word and God says the Jews are Gods chosen people. Who do you think people should believe, him or you?
66. Author is only babbling in thoughts !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.28.12)
There is no depths in the authors mind, no introspection, only a mental babble on the surface. This Author has discovered nothing about God or about Dina Avramson. I Quote - Chosen people? Not quite Op-ed: Dina Avramson says Jews should dispose of notion that they are superior to other people Comment - "Many are called but few are chosen".. And that is about the People of God. Surelty this Author is not One of the Chosen of the people of God. Arn.Sweden.
67. Why just one?
Walter ,   @19   (05.28.12)
This seems to me like a waste of space. The whole universe and all parallel universes should by ruled by just ONE god... No, there must be at least some space for Jupiter and Venus.
68. @22
Walter ,   Germany   (05.28.12)
I'm quite sure atheism exists much longer.
69. No not quite! But Sameach Hag!
Blessed ,   St George   (05.28.12)
The Lord revealed himself to the Jews His chosen and most intelligent people, thru Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is righteous and gave Torah. He loved them and gave Moyshe 10 Commandments - the Israelites had a rave instead, Not Holy Praise. The wicked and complainers died on the way to the promised land. After varying fortunes, bad when they rebelled good when they obeyed, the Lord sent Yeshua as a walking model of Torah and when He rose from the Dead, Tongues of Fire _ Ha Ruach Kodesh appeared on their heads and more important in their hearts. Sameach Hag Israel, turn to the Blood of The Lamb, repent of all sin and invite Ha Ruach Kodesh in. You will never be the same again, for where the Spirit of Adonai Elohim is there is liberty. Yeshua perfect paschal lamb tasted death for us, no more FEAR. Perfect Love casts out fear, and He forgives ALL who truly turn from their sin and works His Good will in as we cannot change ourselves! Messianic Jews have an awesome annointing after a fairly scary encounter with the Living God of Israel.
70. Christians are taught the Jews are chosen
sean green ,   pasadena usa   (05.28.12)
Chosen to bring the scripture into the world that we may learn from the law that we have sinned and from the tanuk to serve only the true G-d and from the new testament our chance to join the Jews in the family of God via a divine adoption.
71. Shavuot and the Minute that we live in !!
Kevin John Lee ,   Glasgow/UK   (05.29.12)
Shanatova !! Shalom L"atem.
72. How mahy people in Israel believe in an existence of god
Miriam ,   Miami USA   (05.29.12)
Jarda Which people Jews, Muslims, or Christians such as : the Roman, Armenian, Maronite, Syriac, and Chaldean Catholic Churches; the Eastern Orthodox Greek Orthodox Church; the Oriental Orthodox Syriac Orthodox Church; the Armenian Apostolic Church; and the Anglican Evangelical Episcopal Church or Druze, Bahi, Buddhists, Samaritans, Hindus and Karaites. Jarda you need to learn about Israel
73. Chosen to embrace and follow the Torah
Diego ,   Bs As Argentina   (05.29.12)
The "Chosen People" mean just chosen to follow and build a Nation from the Torah, nothing more, nothing less. (not better than anybody else, it´s an issue of cultural, religious and ethnic identity) The level of stupidity of this piece of opinion is incredible. The only reason I see Ynet published Dina Avramson´s feces is to deceive the ignorants, to rejoice the haters and to annoy the ones who have at least a minimum of knowledge. It seems Y net succeed.
74. Total Failure
Chaim ,   Jerusalem   (05.29.12)
What a total failure of the religious education you received. Perhaps you were sleeping or just not intellectually capable of understanding basic tenets of Judaism - and worse - your teachers completely misunderstood where you were coming from. Welcome to Reform Judaism
75. Anybody who wishes can be Abraham
Rabbi Uzi Weingarten ,   Los Angeles CA   (05.29.12)
The reason God 'chose' Abraham is 'so that he will instruct his children... to observe the way of God, to do what is fair and just' (Genesis 18:19). It is not about belief; there were others who believed in God before Abraham, and after. It is about the commitment to teach the way of God, which is treating other people with integrity. So anybody who wishes to walk in that path, and commit to teaching others the way of God of 'doing what is just, loving kindness and walking humbly with God' has done the same thing that Abraham did, and God responds in the same way. Abraham is not an exception; Abraham is the *paradigm* for those who understand 'the way of God' and commit to teaching it. The path of chosenness is open to all. At the time the Bible was written, Israel was the only nation that knew God, and so the Bible says we are chosen. But as other nations also know God, they too can be chosen. This is the vision that Isaiah (19:25) hold out for the future, in which people will say: "Blessed is my people, Egypt, and my creation, Assyria, and my inheritance, Israel." We can all become chosen. And we can all become God's children. It is what God meant when he told Moses to tell Pharaoh that "Israel is my firstborn" (Exodus 4:22). "Firstborn" implies that there are, or will be, others. The idea is that connection to God is not a private club but rather something we want all people to join.
76. In His Image
Joseph ,   London UK   (05.29.12)
'Man' is created in G-d's Image, not just one nation. We're all in G-d's Image. Choseness means that we received the Torah to bring the message to mankind that there is a Creator who sees and hears and understands His creation, to tell mankind that there are eternal and universal Laws such as the Seven Laws of Noah. Each nation has its purpose and goal. Ours is to sanctify this world and to be a holy people, the living proof of G-d's eternal Covenant with the Children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
77. chosen
marco ,   pardes hana, israel   (05.29.12)
of course the jews are the chosen people: Chosen to be picked on.
78. There is no God, only cosmic consciousness, and one people
Elias   (05.29.12)
The various religions or cults can interpret it anyway they want, but mankind once believed in several Gods to suit their beliefs. That evolved into monotheism, which suits the modern day religions, but the next religious evolution will be the revelation that there is no God, only the Universal Mind.
79. not using an elevator on Shabbat is irrelevent to god
Steve ,   Thoughtville   (05.29.12)
One cannot understand the nature or intent of the creator. Arcane rituals and bizarre costumes have obliterated common sense, decency, and respect around the world. Every group thinks they are endowed by the creator with the only words of truth. Jews KNOW they are REALLY the only ones. A child born and raised in religious isolation, who cares enough to lend a helping hand to his neighbor, is closer to god than every rabbi, cleric, and priest combined. Now please start spewing your "enlightened" hatred.
80. How many Jews were chosen for Congress & Senate?
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (05.29.12)
One only has to look at the small number of Jews in the world and then compare their success rate to understand that Jews stand out. One could speculate for hours on the reasons but the fact that the world chooses Jews over others remains indisputable.
81. Chosen People
Chaya Lagumsky ,   Yerushalyim   (05.29.12)
Like you said...."with my limited knowledge..." Would you give an opinion on any other important subject with such "limited knowledge"?! As the Talmud says GO STUDY!
82. correction
Steve   (05.29.12)
I meant to write 'in isolation from religion'. Forgive me, I was dodging lightening bolts as I wrote!
83. Nr 75. let me ask you about -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.29.12)
Exodus 4:22. Firstborn - are sometimes Oneborn and vise versa. What says the Groundtext(Septuagint?) here ?. It is very important because - Firstborn and Oneborn is Spiritually very different. Arn.Sweden.
84. The understanding of Judaism
Ajb ,   Bet Shemesh   (05.29.12)
Of a 5 year old such a shame.
85. hmm, interesting how my
jerusalem   (05.29.12)
previous post wasnt allowed to be publicized... (even if it is just for your eyes) I say it a hundred times: THANK GOD I AM MUSLIM. ALHAMDULILLAH
86. Every cohesive group is entitled ...
Akiva Centner ,   johannesburg   (05.29.12)
Every cohesive group is entitled to see themselves as special, as long as this does not imply harm to others. Why not us Jews?
87. #60 & 64
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (05.29.12)
I "pondered" and "pondered" and found nothing that would render my explanation in error. Christ had no male father from the line of David based on the Christian belief that he was born of virgin birth.He could not be the messiah!
88. #85 Jerusalem
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (05.29.12)
I am glad you are who you are just as I am glad who I am! Live in peace, security and good health in the Jewish State. Be a good neighbor!
89. How cynical of you
miriam ,   Disney Land   (05.29.12)
look what happend to your friends, for preaching torah and judaism? they are death or in jale, do this says nothing to you about the insanity you share with them? Go and Study! where/ with you?
90. it is an insult!
Tzipih ,   Jerusalem   (05.29.12)
It is amuzing how much reactions this article has provoke on people, but when there are subjects of discusion that really hurt jewish values they are no where to be found, 'the chosen ones'' it is an insult to all jews and the world, shame on you all.
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