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Violent Arab ghetto shows Israel's seamy underside
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Published: 30.05.12, 18:42
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1. If the problem is exclution....
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (05.30.12)
...DON'T exclude Arabs from responsibilities.A lot of people might say that exemption from serving in the army is a privilege,so why do it?Make Arab's liable for military service like the rest.Give them a feeling of kinship with other Israelis and a stake in the State. If they want to avoid military service by going abroad,like some Jewish Israeli's do,so be it.It won't be a loss to Israel. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
2. Deportation is the solution
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.30.12)
America deports her illegal aliens within 24 hours. No nation can afford to absorb over a million illegals, period. This reminds me of the Dodo bird. It takes over the nest of a smaller bird by pushing out the original birds eggs and replaces them with her own. SEND THEM BACK IMMEDIATELY OR, BECOME ANOTHER THIRD WORLD MUSLIM NATION.
3. Don't Quote Leah Whitson of HRW on Human Rights
Michael ,   Ohio, USA   (05.30.12)
Funny, this is the same Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch who likes to raise money for HRW from Gulf Arab countries by boasting about how much work they do attacking Israel. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124528343805525561.html and http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2009/07/fundraising-corruption-at-human-rights-watch/21345/
4. @#2 WRONG TARGET OF YOUR RACISM
avramele   (05.30.12)
the arabs of Lod are indigenous to the land and citizens of Israel. Their problems are linked to poverty, unemployment and government indifference. Offer them hope, housing, jobs, a fair share of the education budget and you begin to address the issue. When I walk through their neighborhoods I feel ashamed knowing that this was not the zionist design of Herzl, Ben Gurion or even Jabotinky on how citizens of the Jewish state should be treated.
5.  #2
You Are an Idiot ,   TLV, IL   (05.31.12)
#2-- First of all...did you read this article?? Who did you want to deport?? People like you who are entirely uneducated, have no worldview, and try to press your ridiculous super-far right or super-far left agendas are ridiculous. What did ANYTHING In this article have to do with illegal aliens??? If you were any kind of bad assed Jew, you'd be here in Israel actually DOING SOMETHING instead of discharging your nonsense on message boards like an 11 year old.
6. # 2
Birdi ,   Israel   (05.31.12)
You have posted your talkback on the wrong article. This article is not about illegal aliens.
7. true dat
sf2oak ,   oakland, usa   (05.31.12)
i have no reason to believe what is said about arabs in Israel isnT true. However I am curious what HRW has to say about a palestinian state that is judenrien? I also have trouble with an article that claims rights of palestinians after 1948 war, funny because palestinian didn' t exist then. When did the arabs become palestinians?
8. 2 way street; loyalty+lawfulness=all privileges & rights
hippocrates ,   earth   (05.31.12)
of citizenship. If some don't want to loyal or lawful they need to be given incentive to leave
9. #4
Alex   (05.31.12)
"I feel ashamed knowing that this was not the zionist design of Herzl, Ben Gurion or even Jabotinky on how citizens of the Jewish state should be treated." - In a real Zionist state they'd have to give an oath of loyalty to a Jewish democratic state. Not only the Arabs, but all citizens. All the Arabs who're ready to do this and serve in the army should be equals. Those who refuses, should be stripped of their citizenship (no matter if Jewish or Arab).
10. there was a time
bythebay ,   94608   (05.31.12)
there was a time when israeli arabs and jews interacted more than they now do. before condemning israeli jews for avoiding involvement with arab citizens, please remember that large numbers of israeli arabs have been supporting the jihadist murderers for more than 20 years. some of the israeli arabs, themselves, have joined in with their west bank and gaza brethren to help in terrorizing israeli jews.
11. Arab Failure
Ron ,   OC US   (05.31.12)
The Arabs in Israel are a ball and chain to Jewish Isreal. The solution is to build housing for them in Gaza, Jordan and parts of the West Bank and encourage them to leave.
12. arab communities
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (05.31.12)
In 1968 I could walk freely in Jenin; in 1980, I could walk freely in Beth Lechem, but not Jenin. In 1990 I walked freely in East Jerusalem but not Beth Lechem, In 2000, I walked freely in Lod but not East Jerusalem. Today I walk freely in Tel Aviv, but not Lod, What will be tomorrow?
13. give Israeli-Arabs equal opportunity
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (05.31.12)
unlike haridi jews,israeli arabs do want to work and contribute to the Israeli economy. Oppening the doors to Israeli-Arabs will only make Israel stronger and more secure.
14. Rami no 13
JUDAH THE LION   (05.31.12)
Rami do not complain. Jews from Arab countries were under fear from Arabs 24 hours daily. Arabs did not do 1% good towards Jews. Jews were attacked,abused, threaten, beaten,insulted, in the streets, and everywhere. JEWS were afraid to go out of their homes.
15. #13: do Israeli Arabs except Israel as a Jewish state
(05.31.12)
The Israeli Arabs need to be advanced by Israel. They are a relatively backward society in many aspects, not because of Israel, but because the Arab world in general is more backward, but they can be advanced and integrated into the more developed Jewish society. The question is - Israel was built by the Jews and for the Jews who found no peace and security in the diaspora. Arab citizens should be equal in any sense, but they have a much higher birthrate and as a whole they want Israel to cease being a Jewish state and turn into a state of "all its citizens". This is a problem for Israeli Jews. If Israeli Arabs came forward and said openly that they except Israel as a Jewish state and will stop try to change its character, if they show willingness to serve and contribute to the country - if not in the army then national service etc., I think they will find Israeli Jews much more generous in their willingness to integrate them into the general Israeli society.
16. # 4 avramele
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
No, the arabs are not an indigenous people to Israel they are indigenous to arab nations. Ben Gurion and Herzl fought for Jews rights not arabs. We owe the arabs nothing but eviction, that's my opinion and I still maintain that.
17. # 8 hippocrates we agree.
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
I still maintain that America's model should be used in Israel, and, that is, deportation. No nation can absorb all illegal immigrants and not be affected. The costs of medical, food, housing, education, can no longer be absorbed by our own people who are out of work, out of their homes and , thanks to obama, out of hope.
18. # 9 ALEX AMEN TO THAT, AMEN!!!!!
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
19. # 10 bytheby 94608 YOU"RE MORE THAN RIGHT!!!!
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
No terrorist should be allowed to live free in Israel. They belong in Gaza, Jordan, or any other arab enclave.
20. # 11 Ron YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
21. LOL "Opening doors'
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
to arabs, and Jews will also open doors for the undertakers. The arabs should improve their own politics rather than try to escape to a nation of Jews that they hate and plot to murder. Arab spring is one reason the arabs love Israel, freedom and democracy.
22. When muslims stop murdering Jews......
Bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (05.31.12)
then, we can talk of their 'advancements.'
23. #13: two wrongs don't make it right
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (05.31.12)
Human rights abuse in the arab/muslim world is very terrible, the whole world shoudl stand against it regardle who the vistim is jews christian or other muslims. However, the maltreatment of jews in arab world does not justify maltreatment of arabs in Israel.
24. #15: u r misinformed about Israeli-Arabs
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (05.31.12)
While there are radicals among Israeli-Arabs, the striking majority are law abiding citizens who see their future in Israel as a jewish state. If you watch speaches by late Shabak head Yuval Diskin you can see that at the end of the day Israeli-arabs have same priorities/concerns as the jews, they want better life for their kids, better education, economic opportunity, nieghborhood free of crime, etc.. btw, christian arabs in Israel has a lower birth rate and higher level of education than jews in Israel.
25. Rami no 23
JUDAH THE LION   (05.31.12)
Rami, you are 100% wrong accusing Israel and the Jews maltreatment of Israeli Arabs. Israeli Arabs are free to go anywhere, even having fun with Jewish girls, and you can see them in Tel-Aviv beaches, having the same treatments in hospitals, and even there are Arabs Mk in Kenesset, who are disloyal to the Jewish State. Let me tell you that if Europeans/ Scandinavian/ member of parliament will be on the side of their enemies, they will be kicked out and will be tried as treason. You know very well that Israeli Arabs are disloyal, and if they get chance to destroy Israel they will do.
26. To Judah # 25: did u actually read the article!!!
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (06.01.12)
How could u read this article and claim Israel is not maltreating Israeli arabs? Obviously u r misunformaed about Israeli-arabs, see my post # 24
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