About time the state dealt with these religious thugs and hand out long jail sentences. The harideem know they can get away with it and see themselves above the law. They obvioulsy have to much time and energy on their hands which could be put to better use in the IDF. Its just a matter of time before they kill someone.

should not tolerate this behaviour. These guys "haredim" are not religious, they belong to sects.

They call themselves religious? What a joke They are a disgrace and an embarrassment

Again a very bad image of "religious" people . Where are the condemnations of this behaviour ? If the "rabbanim" don't condemn those acts PUBLICLY , it means that they AGREE with attacking other persons . And this in name of religion ?

Paying is the same as sanctioning. Why on earth would the secular majority subsidize these parasites? That seems to be the question with the growing edge. Why? Idolness, and that is what so called Torah study is, idleness, breed distorted responses to social issues such as race relations, overlording the opposite sex and obsession with controlling the sexual urge. Seems to me enough is enough. The ultras have gone to seed, with competing asshole rabbis outdoing each other as if they were on dancing with the stars of halacha. Their followers are acting like Appalachian inbreds. And it's all brought o you by the a #1 FRIERS of Israel who willingly give the sweat of their toil and the blood of their own children in order to support these leeches. Cut them off, force them to support themselves and their families and watch how fast the weirdness wears off when the day to day work of earning your own keep sets in. Also notice how it makes absolutely no spiritual difference to anyone or anything. In fact, odds are things will get better.

Should be :Young hooligans are attacking.... as it would be written for secular youth.

if the prime minister, the head of the supreme court, the members of Knesset, the chief of police, and every other public figure do not condemn the crimes committed by their "followers" -- then they agree with the perpetrators of those crimes. That's a lot of condemning to do! Get over it already!

PUT THEM IN THE ARMY IF NEEDED BY FORCE. THEY ARE A DISCRACE TO THE COUNTRY I LOVE.

DO THE HAREDIM NOT KNOW TO LIFT ONES HAND HIGHER THAN HIS HEAD TO HIT ANOTHER FELLOW MAN IS A VERY BIG SIN .E.G. CANE AND ABLE. CANE LIFTED HIS HAND AND SMOTE ABLE.

What you write is according to your logic, not Charles'. Putting words and thoughts into the mouths and minds of others is very dishonest, and typical of the kind of extreme conclusions supporters of these extremist thugs spew. When a civil servant is caught breaking the law, they are arrested, put on trial, and no riots in the streets ensue. When one of these Messianic (read: Christian) cultists gets arrested for child abuse, no garbage can or bus shelter (any other publicly paid for item) is safe in Mea Shari'im. Compare and discuss with logic, fact and intelligence. Not hyperbole, conjecture and prejudice.

of violence.In fact,the great majority are peaceful people.

that Rabbis condemn privately. Same for Israelis behaving badly, do not wash the dirty linnen in public.

MY NEPHEW LIVES IN JERUSALEM HE HAS GONE CRAZY RELIGOUS. , HE IS NOT WELL, ARE YOU TAKING THE MEDICINE OR DRUGS THAT ARE BEING PRESCRIBED BY THE DOCTOR, HE HAS BEEN INDOCTRINATED BY THESE 5 RABBIS SITTING AROUND THE TABLE, QUESTION TO HIM ARE YOU TAKING YOUR PRESCRIBED MEDICINE, IF YOU SPEAK TO HIM YOU KNOW WHEN HE SOUNDS ILL. THE DAMM RABBI,S HE SAYS KNOWS MORE THAN THE DOCTORS. I GIVE UP .THEY THE DAMM RABBI,S TOLD HIM NOT TO GO TO MY FAHTHERS GRAVE BECAUSE HE WASENT RELIGOUS ENOUGH

It's always the same with you. You always find a way to rationalize Haredi violence - "It's the seculars as well, they're young hooligans, most are peaceful... ." Every time. Frankly, I find you offensive. You really are not entitled to your bubble of denial, and I wish there were a way to take it away form you and force you to confront reality.

The WWII pope did maybe condemn the shoa privately , but we all denounce that he did'nt do it publicly . The same for rabbanim . Nothing to do with wash the dirty linnenb in public . Crimes have to be condemned .

wounded and which hospital they are or in which cemetary they have been buried and I will go visit them in the hospital and the cemetary just as I would go visit the Jewish victims of arab terror!

and worse happen every day in the secular world. I don t hear many condemnations.

Don't these Haredim realize that they are devolving into the rabid, violence loving Arabs they so often rail against? I'm against the "Palestinian" factions that perpetrate violence, but I can't be "for" Jews that do the same thing.

"rabbanim" have "higher" standards , or not ? rabbis have an influence on their followers . Attacking an elderly is a crime and shows cowardise .

the indefendible. Though they are not worse than secular hooligans,who next to never make the headlines. Hooligans are hooligans.Why do we have to mention their believes?

"higher standards" , those guys do ! It's "hooliganisme on high standards" , and they act also against Tora laws , or not ?

Rotten high quality apples are far more deceiving.

Not high quality at all [ with some exeptions of course ]

I have found out that Haredi bashing TBers are not selfhating Jews,but, on the contrary, they have a fine Jewish soul , urging them to follow the Tora .Since changing their life style is not an option, they keep an eye out for every single article that relates Haredi crimes,as that is their best justification, for neglecting the Tora. Which is the Jewish most valuable possession. An unestimable treasure. Good health and Shabat Shalom to all the assiduous Haredi crime readers.

I'm not following tora because for me it's only our history book , where an inexisting god was added to have "simplets and automats" believe in him , to have those same to behave correctly . How would they behave otherwise ? Have a fine day , a good ShabbaT , you the not completely rotten apple [ only your head is ]

You were fine until a microbe called "religion" infected your head , sad , very sad .

and i expect apologies too. Shabat Shalom.

Where is your strong condemnation of the secular racist thugs of South Tel Aviv? I hope you are disgusted by their unacceptable behaviour as well. Prison sentences too?

You should be lambasting the parents of these "mostly teens and little children." But no, your revert to your arrogant secular hardei bashing, claiming they should set "higher standards." Being religious does not mean one is magically transformed into a mentsch. It means one recognises he is obligated to work on self-improvement during his lifetime to reach perfection. By setting themselves higher standards, there is a small chance they may reach their goal. Not like the secular youth who are content and have no qualms about their anti-social behaviour. In just two months, April-May 2005 - 8,700 cases of knife attacks, murders and sexual abuse were reported to the police, all perpetrated by youth 11-18 years of age. How many of those cases involved haredi teens? Probably a fraction, if any. And look what the secular youth get up to: A 16-year-old boy brutally raped and murdered a 15-year-old girl near the mall in Rehovot; a group of 17-year-old youths staged an unprovoked attack on a 13-year-old boy in a Tel-Aviv pub – the victim was severely injured and one of his kidneys had to be removed. The haredim may not be perfect enough for you, but their lifestyle is generally much more civilised.

Have a fine Shabat.