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Hebrew National hot dogs not kosher, lawsuit claims
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Published: 22.06.12, 14:44
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1. Who ever trusted Hebrew National
froike ,   ny ny   (06.22.12)
I don't know of any Observant Jews who trusted the certification on Hebrew National Products.
2. Glatt monopoly
Klutz ,   Denver, CO   (06.22.12)
I don't think Hebrew National is glatt which is probably why the unctuous orthodox are upset and filing a lawsuit. As far as I know the Rabbi of Triangle K has quite a CV. I think it just boils down to someone challenging the notion that kosher meat can only be kosher if glatt. Next thing you know there'll be glatt gadol where the cow was slaughtered by a kohen.
3. Shofar tastes better!!
David ,   Hartford USA   (06.23.12)
Now, if only the true Kosher hot dog makers would get rid of the nitrates and nitrites and only use grass-fed beef, the hotdogs might actually be good for us! Shofar, are you listening?? You might even get your product into Whole Foods Market! Now THAT would be the sign of approval from a higher authority!
4. Kosher premium prices in America?
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.23.12)
Almost every item in an American grocery store is marked kosher!!! Why should non-Jewish Americans have to pay more for food, just because it is marked kosher? To whom does this extra money go? Jews?
5. I'm observant & I trust Hebrew National over Rubashkin!
Dovid ,   Los Angeles   (06.22.12)
6. Oy Gevalt !!!!!
Elad ,   Houston/Israel   (06.23.12)
Taka, you guys gotta settle this thing. Mamesh! They are geshmecht!
7. Veggie Patch hotdogs are made from chickpeas instead
Rivkah   (06.23.12)
of meat. It is like falafel hotdogs.
8. Steve #4
Arturo   (06.23.12)
Steve, if i were you, I wouldn't purchase any product marked "kosher". While you're at it, maybe you can work up a little "upset" over "organic" labeling too.
9. Didn't cough enough ? ,...
split ,   US   (06.23.12)
Rip off artists - There's no business like kosher-nostra business ,...
10. Some Veggie Patch hotdogs are made from wheat and soy, so
Rivkah   (06.23.12)
look for the chickpea ones from Canada and spare yourself the doubts about kosher meat or somewhat kosher meat hotdogs.
11. hot dogs are all bad 4 u so who cares...
(06.23.12)
about the political arguments between two different Kashrut services in the USA?
12. 11: Hotdogs are salty and as long as it isn't the toxic sea
Rivkah   (06.23.12)
salt in them and the meat is grassfed organic or kosher beef, hotdogs are tasty to eat and are not as unhealthy as unclean meats like pork, shrimp and so many other toxic foods.
13. I wouldn't eat a hot dog if I was starving
Michael Redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (06.23.12)
Just junk meat, salt and fat. I met somebody who worked at a hot dog factory for two days and had to quit because of what he saw and smelled. Kosher or not, avoid them!
14. #4
Dennis ,   Phila pa   (06.24.12)
Steve For someone who seems to despise Jews and finds fault with Israel in each of your voluminous talkbacks, you certainly spend a whole lot of time reading Ynet. You need to see a shrink to check out this obsession. make sure that he or she isn't a Jew, though..
15. Dem hot dogs leave exactly as they enter
just like Kebab   (06.24.12)
You don't want to know what's in 'em
16. GO TELL THAT TO THE 8MILLION MUSLIMS IN AMERICA WHO BUY IT
ALBERTO   (06.24.12)
THINKING IT IS HALAL MEAT
17. Nobody who keeps seriously kosher would buy Hebrew Nat'l OR
(06.24.12)
triangle-K products. The problem is for people who would kinda like to buy kosher but don't know any better -- ot they might want to include some kosher friends in their barbecue and mistakenly buy it, thinking their friends/family will eat it, feeling hurt when they discover that no self-respecting Kosher consumer will eat it. I'm sure the lawsuit is spot-on.
18. #4 Ah, the Jewish conspiracy again, hm? No, Steve,the "extra
L ,   Merkaz, Israel   (06.24.12)
money" is not "extra" in truly kosher food. The rabbinical supervisors need to research EVERY ingredient, where it came from and what each ingredient component IS to determine if it is kosher. That's first. Then, once ALL the ingredients are determined kosher, or a suitable replacement is found for a questionable ingredient (which is agreeable to the manufacturer), they need to have regular supervision in each part of the plant to make sure that these ingredients are not swapped (for cheaper ingredients or if one wasn't available and they don't want to lose money by stopping production: this HAS happened), that food-grade machinery grease, cleansers, etc are also kosher, and if it is a meat product, the meat has to be slaughtered according to traditional humane Jewish law by a certified expert. That is not all, by the way. All of this training, research and manpower has to cost something, right? Besides the kosher consumer, a surprisingly huge amount of non-Jewish consumers, rightly in many cases, believe that the kosher product is made with more select and "pure" ingredients and are willing to pay slightly more for it. Nobody is forcing them to buy it. There are just as many non-kosher options. The manufacturers wouldn't seek kosher certification if they didn't feel they would make more money from the sale of a kosher product.
19. 13 Michael R.: The USDA limits the number of rats that are
Rivkah   (06.24.12)
allowed into the brew that becomes hotdogs. Isn't that comforting?
20. what does the triangle 'k' say?
ma nishma ,   modiin   (06.24.12)
If they give the hechsher, what do they say about it?
21. Traceability
DGS ,   Israel   (06.25.12)
That´s just Traceability, we require it to remedies and drugs we buy at the pharmacy, Why shouldn´t we require traceability on what we eat? If some group of people want their own food traceability checked and pay for it why deny it to them? This case should be investigated
22. When in doubt, go without.
VEGAN ,   Israel   (06.25.12)
It's not realistic to assume that the "kosher" meat industry can actually ensure that the animals are healthy and don't experience any fear or pain when they are slaughter on an assembly line on a massive production level. Even if the "letter of the law" is kept, you're kidding yourself if you think those animals aren't suffering. Not even at a glatt kosher facility. How many of these scandals will it take before you get it?
23. Very unclear
Joseph ,   London England   (06.26.12)
I don't understand the exact allegation. Are they saying the beef is not kosher, that the same machinery is used for non-kosher meat, or that the triangle K emblem has been used without permission? By the way who exactly is triangle K? I've always understood that Hebrew National was not kosher, so I'm surprised it's taken so long to raise this issue. America seems to have several hundred kosher certifiers. One often doesn't know who is who aside from OU and KAJ.
24. Reply to Number 5 'Rubashkin'
Danny ,   London England   (06.26.12)
There is no doubt that the shochtim in Rubashkin were 100% reliable. The legal issue involved a company bank loan. The shochtim were never involved in any legal issue, nor were the Rabbis who supervised them.
25. They advertise kosher food with pictures of little girls?
Not in Israel! ,   tampa   (11.11.12)
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