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Joe the Plumber: Holocaust linked to gun control
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Published: 20.06.12, 21:16
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1. Had they had guns the PC World would assure they didn't use
ab   (06.20.12)
them-like Israel today is constantly censored for defending itself
2. Holocaust
liam ,   Ireland   (06.20.12)
Pure hypocricy to challenge use of the Holocaust. to support a political position. Bibi, Foxy and the usual suspects beat us over the head all the time with the "Holocaust".
3. I agree with NJDC
Tomek ,   Poland   (06.20.12)
"Using the memories of the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust to make a political point is never appropriate". Wurzelbacher is a typical American jingoist. Sadly, he might do well in Ohio.
4. These organization use the memory for their income
George ,   USA   (06.20.12)
Actually, there is NO PART OF HISTORY that people cannot discuss or even make theories about that they use in political commercials. If he wants to say that gun control allowed the Holocaust then he is totally free to do so, and it can be disputed by anyone else who wants to. These geniuses with the Jewish organizations, would they like to please explain why the Holocaust DID HAPPEN? WHY, GENIUSES, WHY? It cannot be explained, but if someone tries, they have committed no sin. These organizations do not take seriously sin anyway, they tend to use the Holocaust for their own purposes, including in many cases a comfortable income and something to do with their time.
5. Stuffed Shirts and Holocaust police..
i ,   jerusalem   (06.20.12)
These self important poobsahs lecturing does not alter the facts. A disarmed populace is ripe for picking, and an armed populace is a nightmare particularly of tyrants. The message was perfectly acceptable.
6. Tomek # 3
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (06.20.12)
Since when is stating the truth taking advantage of anyone? The right in America to keep and bear arms was to insure the Government never got out of control like it did in Hitlers Germany. If Israel was as defenseless as those poor Jews in Europe were do you think they would survive? Wurzelbacher is right.
7. #2.Eire: less than Irish with Potato Famine and alleged Ques
ab   (06.20.12)
-t for Independence
8. He is right 100%...
(06.20.12)
though I agree this is not very appropriate message to tell but this is definitely a good point.
9. What is so offensive about the truth?
Adam ,   Cambridge, MA   (06.21.12)
Tell the NJDC to get off their high horses. His statement is obvious fact and it has nothing to with politics. Perhaps if the opinions of gun control advocates didn't conflict with common sense and historical evidence, they wouldn't find themselves irrationally offended.
10. he is right
k ,   US   (06.21.12)
between the right wing neo nazis, and the left wing Palestinian supporters, Jews need to get a gun and stop being so "liberal" he is right, if Jews are armed and strong, they will not die like dogs, if Jews are weak there will be another holocaust
11. I agree with JtP. I do not know how much it would've
leo ,   usa   (06.21.12)
helped, but at least one could go down with guns blazing.
12. It honors the victims, to ensure that history doesn't repeat
Jake ,   USA   (06.21.12)
13. He's got a point
Barry ,   Tokyo   (06.21.12)
two hands, two guns for each Jew
14. Come on people...he's right.
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (06.21.12)
I guarantee you that Joe the Plumber likes the Jews. He stated that 6 million Jews.....and 7 million gentiles...or non Jews... would not have perished had they had weapons and fought back. He never gave the Jews exclusivity in his statement. He included everyone but the soldiers that had to fight all these idiots and die because of Hitlers racism. Would the lessons learned....and the Nuclear arsenal of the Israelis be abandoned....because Joe the Plumber told the Democratic Party which includes a lot of Jews....the Truth??? The Jews are not going to be defenseless ever again. Joe the Plumber just reiterated the truth of the matter. If the statement isn't true.....then why does Israel have a military and nuclear weapons to protect these same Jews as of right now??? Just because someone belongs to the Democratic Party... which turns the other cheek all the time in the United States and gets beat up by thugs on the street....does it mean that all the rest of us have to be politically correct and get ourselves beat up and killed following their advice.
15. Joe, the Goy Trash Plumber Party
mea   (06.21.12)
Joe is a fine representation of the educational system and cultural awareness in America. He should pray nobody asks him to define the word Shoah. (No Joe, it doesn't stand for "Shoah, I'll have some moah grits".)
16. the reason hitler never invaded
LARRY ,   US ARMY RETIRED   (06.21.12)
the swiss was that he sent his agents in to access the status of arms held by the citizens .concluded that 80% of households had a long rifle with ammunition and sniper fire on german troops would have caused too many losses in manpower .so in conclusion if american jewish groups take offence tuff shit .an israeli would understand
17. Wurzelbacher is right
Private Ryan ,   LA, USA   (06.21.12)
He just made a true statement of fact
18. He's right
Peter ,   Auburn USA   (06.21.12)
Of course he's right. The Warsaw ghetto proved the point. Israel's existence proves the point.
19. he's not the brightest bulb on the tree!
tom ,   toronto, canada   (06.21.12)
in view of the fact that the german army was the best prepared and equipped IN THE WORLD at the time, i doubt that this theory holds any water. the fact that the warsaw ghetto resisted the nazi army longer than france or poland, is a testament to their determination, but the final outcome was a foregone conclusion. because a weaker force, surrounded and without supplies or reinforcements, will inevitably be overcome by a stronger one. as for the american mystical fascination with guns, they still haven't come to grips with the reality that if guns are what ensure security and freedom, the middle east, and especially places like iraq and afganistan, which are just full of guns, should be the safest and freest place on earth. qed.
20. Maybe Sarah Palin can see Joe's shoot'n range from her house
Baruch ,   Houston/Israel   (06.21.12)
21. Idiot
Spengler ,   US   (06.21.12)
All these years I have been admiring jewish intellectualism and then this guy shows up! Most isrealis cannot be taken by this fraud, it isnt the bible belt after all! And I do think it is up for debate if German or American "rebels" could fend off a standing army. Nice try Joe but your a poor stand in for John Wayne....
22. he is right
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23. Figures
Mark ,   U S.   (06.21.12)
Anybody related to Sarah Palin, this is the kind of idiocy and usery for personal gain, using a tragedy of a Jewish people for gain and to garner support for (their agendas).
24. Had Euro Jews been armed, Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.21.12)
"Joe The Plumber" is absolutely correct. Hitler was a huge gun control fan. All control freaks love gun control. They don't want their prospect victims to be armed. Had European Jews been well armed, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
25. Joe the Plumber is right. Sadly, Senator Christopher Dodd
Rivkah   (06.21.12)
got the same legislation passed in the USA word for word as Adolf Hitler got passed in Germany. The only reason Japan did not attack mainland USA in WWII was because the Emperor said the people have guns, not just the police or the military. Disarming people is a prelude to dictatorsihp. The Jews finally started using weapons in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in WWII. They learned a terrible lesson as most races and cultures have: gun control assures the criminals have guns but not the victims of crimes or the victims of misuse of government authority. 70 million Chinese slaughtered by Mao Tse Tung's communist government and 30 million Russians slaughtered by the communist government there by Josef Stalin's government attest to the wrongs of an unarmed populace.
26. Where there is the most gun control, there is the most crime
Rivkah   (06.21.12)
When guns are outlawed, only the government and criminals have guns which does not make society safer.
27. Gun control is the Fascist's and Socialist's best friend.
Yaniv ,   Israel   (06.21.12)
28. Sarah B must b Republican...she hasn't written a rant yet!
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29. and what about the other Sarah B doesn't she have anything 2
(06.21.12)
30. @9 or if the Republicans hadn't blocked entry of Jews 2 US..
(06.21.12)
then maybe we would all be telling a different story! Because you know the USA immigrant quota system was put in place by Republicans... that's a historical fact too. So shame on you for being on your fine high horse yourself!
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