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Report: Russia involved in downing of Turkish jet
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Published: 01.07.12, 10:38
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1. So bring it on
Basij ,   Iran   (07.01.12)
So bring it on. You think we are afraid of you ? We are waiting for you Israelis since the past 5 years to attack us, so that we can teach you a lesson once & for all. Kindly stop blowing hot-air and start the war immediately.
2. So it was not a "mistake".Big-talk Erdogan is doing ?
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (07.01.12)
Nothing much with the super proud,biggest & self proclaimed toughest army in the M.E
3. Turkish F-4 was testing Syrian defence for ISRAEL
Tayfun_Turkey   (07.01.12)
It is heard that Israel decoded latest MIG-23 deserted from Syrian army and landed abroad for refuge and entered codes in Turkish F-4 to test air security of Syrian defence. If test was successful and Syrian air defence systems was fooled by imitated MIG-23 codes, Israel would use the same air corridor to strike Iranian Nuclear sites. So AKP-Turkish Prime Ministers Party, making show with Israel as if hostile to Israel, is in fact in collaboration with Israel in all aspects. Turkish Phantom was serving Israeli interests and spying for Israel!
4. 1 you posting from your taxi in LA?
(07.01.12)
5. Smoking Russian Gun:
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (07.01.12)
Why is Russia so adamant about Assad remaining in power? Why would Russia support him, and clearly without limits? If Western forces, were to land in Syria, today. They would find the Russian and Iranian military actively involved in murdering the civilian population. The Russian's must prevent Assad's removal, because the day after, the new regime will find evidence of Russian and Iranian complicity in war crimes.
6. Tayfun Taqiya
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.01.12)
7. You people are cowards...
Marco ,   Spain   (07.01.12)
Hezbollah humiliated you in 2006 and all you can do is bark... Your incompetence is pathetic... You disgust me...
8. #3 Tayfun_Turkey
Marco ,   Spain   (07.01.12)
In this case, I would gladly say good riddance. May the pilots remains rot in hell...
9. #3 you have no idea what your talking about
David ,   Israel   (07.01.12)
Even if the codes were replicated it's like a serial number each being unique - whatever the downed jets number was it would have been recorded by Syria and any jet that operates in Syrian airspace is screened by their air control thus even an imposter can only go undetected a few moments before his cover is blown
10. Looking forward..
Bergkamp   (07.01.12)
..for Erdogoon and Davutoglu threatening Russia and turkish forumers worldwide bragging how they would destroy Russia in one week (not). On the other hand 2 out first 5 talkbackers here instead of staying on topic embark in a war fiction about an attack against Iran. It seems that the muhammadans are fearful and paranoid.
11. Except for Israel
Israeli 2   (07.01.12)
“Syria is not Libya and any attempt to impose a ‘no fly zone’ over Syria will face one of the most formidable air defenses on Earth and will cost any attacker dearly.” Except for Israel. They entered Syria, knocked the facilities out and the Syrians did not even realize what happened.
12. RIP?!
Taz Man ,   USA   (07.01.12)
Old Ivan is back!!! Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave, because the old Soviet Union (evil empire) is being, slowly, resuscitated. The cold war has just been re-heated-up; and, America has not the true leadership to face their old nemesis and its growing threat to itself (U.S.), and, particularly, Israel!
13. The old, Russian (Pooh) bear is coming out...
Snoopy ,   USA   (07.01.12)
...of its hibernation; and, he's well-rested...and ready to taste of the black honey that feeds the world's energy needs.
14. Poor Basij #1
Chaya ,   Bat Yam   (07.01.12)
Poor Basij, the majority of your countrymen want to be rid of the lunatic regime and you support it???
15. Fantasy,Turkish was testing for Israel
Dr.Ludwig ,   Belgium   (07.01.12)
Wich such a fantasy is possible allways evrything to explain.
16. popcorn time```
(07.01.12)
big time!!!
17. Obama, and #1
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (07.01.12)
Russian involvement in downing the Turkish spy plane is no different (but more legal) than US/Turkish arming and giving intel to the anti-Assad forces. If Obama had supported the Green Revolution three years ago, none of this would be necessary. Instead, Obama ignored American interests while pushing his rabidly anti-Israeli ideology, doing his best to establish a new Arab state in Israeli territory. Now, thanks to Obama's stupidity and racism, many innocent people will die. #1 Israel won't attack you. It will be American/Saudi forces.
18. So is Erdogan going to declare war
A ,   Belgium   (07.01.12)
on Russia? This should be interesting.
19. @8 Care to repeat your comments in Turkey ? Tough guy??
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.01.12)
You haters know you can get away with your lies and bile in the free Israeli press. Try it in the countries you deluded haters pimp for.
20. So what? Russia can't fight the West; hanging by threads
inetfraud ,   US-IL   (07.01.12)
The Russians aren't interested in fighting the west in a conventional war via a third party: their economy is for crap and they're hanging on by a thread. Not to mention, well over 20% of their GNP relies on oil exports. Once oil hits $60 a barrel, Russia is living on borrowed time. Once it hits $30 a barrel (which most experts predict), Russia will be toast. Syria will be attacked by the west and Russia can't do a damn thing about it. Hell from above; no Russian AA system will stop the west from doing their thing. All of this talk about the 'waking bear' is ridiculous: 700,000 ethnic Russians drink themselves to death every year: by 2020, they'll be a minority in their own country. Too late to 'wake up': they're descending into Islamitization and a depression.
21. not news,
anton ,   istanbul   (07.01.12)
russians only stronghold in med is at syrian soil the best costumer the best ally in arab world for em their sphere of influence in region goes through of syria so thats why they dont want assad to step down once hes gone russia will loose many things on political ground, lucrative arm sales, a leg in mediternian its correct to say russians gave warning to turkey and nato not to think of attacking syria and so far it worked well, nobody wants a headache by taking on russia just for the sake of their interests sorry i meant for the sake of syrians :) the jet was sent deliberatly into syrian airspace so that it would give a reason to nato intervine militarily israeli 2 syria got new defence sysytems after israeli attack on their soil back then they didint have any decent toys what would be interesting is to find out russians provided iranians with most advanced air defence in order to stop israeli attack, time's the teller what we can tell at this moment is russia has awaken, gonna be interesting ;)
22. #12 - Taz Man
Devorah   (07.01.12)
To add insult to injury, Russian warships are at PEARL HARBOR to conduct joint drills with the U.S.! Talk about a deliberate slap in the face from the ZerO administration!
23. #1
Daniel ,   Netherlands   (07.01.12)
You are already under attack, already many years. All your networks are infested with spying viruses.. Your data even can be deleted, you realize what it means your entire systems can be shut down, electricity, oil, etc... You are under attack economically too.. even if you only understand the language of bombs, your technicians are being killed and there absolutely nothing you can do about it. The last stage, the one of killing, will come too, and the economic sanctions means you can not rebuild anything destroyed... Keep talking... that is the best you can do (and the only thing too).. Will Hamas and Hizbollah fire their missiles?? wowowow we are all so afraid!!!!
24. Back At the Ranch, Little Babies Are a Concern
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (07.01.12)
Russia will not attack Turkey, since Turkey i sa part of NATO. Get it. Syria likewise would bring in NATO forces. If Turkey attacks Syria, by itself, Russia will not interfven. Syria's defenses are able to thwart Turkey w/o NATO support. I find it interesting, that for decades, pundits considered Syrias army ineffectual..the poor man out so to speak. Now we learn about its missile defense system. Oh the M.E lying...about everything. Make the Arabs seem week agin little David Israel..the agressor. I mean the Plaes cannot win over Israel, but they willl have help guys, Hamas, Hez, Islamic Jihad,, Iran, Arabia, Turkey, Iraq, Sudan, Lebanon, and perhaps Egypt and Jordan. This is the real conflict. Look, in 67 I read that the Sinai is one-third the size of Egypt.(which Israel occupied). Iran denies the Holocaust and says we Jews through the Torah desire to control the world (give me Las Vegas if we do). Christ was a Palestinian ande the Wall was a Muslim shrine. Yeah and Azam Azam gave secrets to Israel in his underwear. Remember that one? Oh me oh my ,Oy vey! Back in Germany, goyim are concerned over Jewish boys..you know what! Come on. What a joke.
25. To 19;Are you intoxicated?What is "cleared for Press" here?
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (07.01.12)
There is only one media NOT FREE and under strict military censor, it is Israel media Each and every news was read first and approved for publication by Military authorities in Israel. During Last Lebanese war when Hizbullah beat IDF, all Israel watched Hizbullah TV for fast and reliable information as Israeli press was not allowed to publish facts. Israeli press no hurry for news like other newspapers, they just publish after 15-20 days after event took place... You funny! Free Israeli Press Beside I learnt this issue, test for Israel from Free Turkish press!
26. #20 -If oil hits US$30/bbl, everyone on earth
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (07.01.12)
will be starving to death because the world economy will have crashed and no one will care about Syria Note that ALL oil production around the world REQUIRES oil prices over US$50/bbl (drilling three mile holes under one mile of water takes a lot of cash), so if the oil market collapses, the whole world will be a big mess. In reality there is no expert that predicts US$30/bbl oil.
27. erdogan wanted syria and moscow
alexxi   (07.01.12)
erdogan and his stooge dovotgolu, zero problem for a loser wanted arabs and antiwest-you got it with syria and russian shooting your plane down and killing your pilots. and meanwhile the gutless erdogan hides behind nato. recall erdogan said moslems don't kill moslems.
28. #1
Paul K. ,   USA   (07.01.12)
You are an IDIOT. Keep the faith in that bearded monkey of yours.
29. Turkish F4 Phantom 2 shoot down
G Michael Hall ,   Tampa USA   (07.01.12)
Why would they send a obsolete F4 Phantom over a area with modern advanced Russian air defense? Thats like sending the pidgeons to the cat!
30. tOAST
kASPY ,   lONDON   (07.01.12)
Really funny thread.The whole world knows who has the most nukes and largest chemical warfare agents and the best anti cruise missiles. Regarding the oil one bomb in middle east will drive the OIL Prices sky high even upto 200$. The trillion dollar end best reserves is not with west but with RUSSIA
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