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US displeased with Levy Report
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 10.07.12, 08:29
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1. Not Surprised at ALL! overall USA has had his hand in Israel
Jewish Warrior ,   EveryWhere   (07.10.12)
Policy for the past 45 Years until the current days... entire Judaical system in Israel has Sold its land & betrayed the People until now & that's something their American master desired so far! I have doubts that Levy's report become effective anytime soon with the type of Pro USA government we have today...
2. Butt off,it's the US that caused the 1967 war and aftermath
ab   (07.10.12)
Prez .Johnson "couldn't find" guarantees of freedom of navigation thru Tiran Straits blocke in 1967 by Nasser,given to Israel by Prez Eisenhower in return for withdrawal from Sinai in 1957. The same pattern repeats itself in Bambi's refusal to honor Bush "Presidential Letter" given to Sharon after Gaza withdrawal.
3. Why is the US sticking its nose into Israeli domestic
Father Abe   (07.10.12)
politics?
4. Obama and friends work for Al-Queida/Muslim Brthd!
Sandy   (07.10.12)
5. Well .....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
but it isn't really any of the United States' business, now, is it? Israel does not offer its opinion on American policy papers; the United States should extend a similar courtesy. Besides, who cares what the U.S. -- or any other country -- thinks? This is purely an internal Israeli issue, and other countries need to butt out.
6. Wow, would you look at that.
Vlad   (07.10.12)
The report clearly cites that the settlements are NOT a violation of int. law. How does the world respond? By simply repeating the same recycled statements. It should be clear to anyone by now that criticism of the settlements is not done to uphold international law, but for the interests of foreign powers.
7. Israel has painted itself into a deadly corner
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (07.10.12)
Israel has no real options. If it tries to give the Arabs the WB, there will be civil war with lots of dead Israelis and if it tries to annex the WB, then it will lose the protection of the US unless it makes every human in the WB a FULL Israeli citizen (meaning the effective end of a "Jewish" state). If Israel tries to annex the WB and have a two tier society or even worse tries to "deport" millions of Arabs, the US will walk away and there will be massive war which Israel will lose. Make no mistake, the US can and will walk away from Israel if Israel cause the US massive harm. In the 200+ years the US has existed, it has screwed EVERY ONE of its so-called friends, in some cases repeatedly. Those that think the US will protect Israel forever, are very, very much mistaken. Once the US abandons Israel, Israel will be 7 million people fighting 7 BILLION people - not very good odds.
8. Uncle Sam is not G-od so Shut up Sammy !
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9. Sheikh Hussein Obama strikes again
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10. They do not give a reason under international law because
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.10.12)
they dont have one. Abbas has thumbed his nose and refuses to negotiate borders,reflecting the will of the majority there,so the US is reduced to heavying Israel.
11. The USA is NOT saying...
Patriotic Israeli ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.10.12)
that the reports legal findings are not TRUE, they are only saying that to act on those findings is against USA policy! If our Prime Minister had a back-bone (which he doesn't) he would do what JABOTINSKY would have wanted him to do! To make the Irgun's flag a reality!
12. to#3 Because USA has to please their ARAB ALLYS! after all
Jewish Warrior ,   EveryWhere   (07.10.12)
Israel is the so called little ALLY in fact USA Fake ally since US policy since 40s has been pro ARAB, 1967 Arms ban no one gave a damn about ISRAEL! USA strongly opposed ISRAEL in every aspect & American Patriot ship was spying on ISrael during the early hours of WAR... & eventually US gave away Israel's every inch of strategic spots... WHAT An ALLY we have!
13. # 5 Are you still here?
Kobi Martin ,   Tel Aviv   (07.10.12)
Haven't you packed your belongings already and left for your country? Who are you to give opinion in our business? Have you done your military service already to get the right to mix in our society? Are you paying your taxes here? People like you have the second passport ready to leave on the first signs of fire. As goes the saying, a serf of two masters doesn't serve any of them.
14. They do not give a reason under international law because
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.10.12)
they dont have one.At best it is disputed territory.Israelis have a legal right to settle there. Abbas has no desire or popuilar mandate to settle for peace,borders and an end to all further demands, so he thumbs his nose at the US,the US sends the PA more money and heavies Israel..
15. Have we got all crazy?
Kobi Martin ,   Tel Aviv   (07.10.12)
Do you people have an idea about what means annexing the West Bank? We will bring together 2.5 million Arabs more hungry for votes, for the betuah leumi, for our educational system, our values and achievements. Instead of 1.2 Arabs living here we will have 3.6. Instead of 10 members in the Knesset we will have 40 or 50. Instead of Hebrew we will listen Arabic more and more. Arabs will not go to Jordan. They will not be expelled by force. They will stay where they are. And we Jews will never treat them as citizens withour rights because this is agains Judaism. So.. why are you celebrating? Are you all antizionists? Why do you want to destroy what our grandfathers achieved? Why do you hate Israel so much? We Jews dont have another place to go (except this so called double passport ersat Sarah B.) This is a Jewish State and it should remain like that with a huge Jewish majority. Two States Now.
16. US is over a barrel to placate Saudi Arabia and could care..
Truth LIVES ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
less about Israel. When push comes to shove its all about the US's own economic survival not truth and not about justice or international law. It's about keeping the oil flowing and stopping Saudis from pulling their zillions out of US banks. The Levi report scares them because it is impeccably clear to anyone with a brain that Israell has full legall rights to all land in Israel and there are NO illegal Jewish buildings and there is NO Jewish occupation. If I was America, I'd be scared too. But the writing is on the wall. America is going down anyways. Israel and its people will live forever!!!
17. #15 - Ah, but you are WRONG kobi
Patriotic Israeli ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.10.12)
There is a humanistic solution to annexing the territories with all those millions of arabs living there: Transferring them to the country that they were given by the Balfour Declaration and the UN mandate in 1947 - Jordan. AND IT CAN BE DONE!
18. Israel will do what's best for Israel.....which also is
Am Israel Chai ,   FOREVER!!!   (07.10.12)
in accordance with INTERNATIONAL LAW. So butt out anti-semites and others who want to destroy Israel. We will do what's right and best for US. Truth ALWAYS comes out eventually.
19. #13 Presumptions and weak arguments
Logic ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
I often disagree with Sarah's political posts, but this is not the first time that you presume incorrectly (she mentioned several times in the past that she was an officer in the IDF), fail to argue fairly, and manage to insult dual citizens - many of whom live in Israel due to conscious choice. Since you are so fixated on military service as a prerequisite for free speech (quite Bolshevistic and closer to the middle eastern mentality than the liberal Western one in my opinion), I suggest you lead a campaign to relieve dual citizens living in Israel from IDF mandatory service since these types are "surfs" and "ready to leave on the first signs of fire" as you wrote. Finally, I would add that if you have a problem with dual citizenship, you can take it up with the Israeli government, who by the way, forces Israeli citizenship upon the first generation offspring of Israelis living abroad. If you can give me back my three years from my IDF stint, I'd appreciate that too.
20. Islamic Republic of America said what?
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Who cares?
21. #13 One more thing
Logic ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
According to recent statistics, more than 50% of native Israeli born women don't serve, so you have no solid argument about getting "the right to mix in our society" if your female compatriots aren't doing their duty.
22. # Patriotic Israli, # 17 Wrong
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
You can dream that they will go. But they will not. They have been living here for thousand of years and many of them were even Jewish before Islam. They have houses, tradition and love for their land as we have. They will not leave, Jordan will not accept them, they will stay where they are and they will start a civil rights movement as soon as they are annexed. And the US - who absorbed all the population of the areas it annexed from Mexico - will be ready to suppor this. And the whole world. The Palestinians, in two or three years, will get Israeli citizenship and with that, the right or reunification wil the Palestinian diaspora. In ten years, Arabs in Israel will be ammounted to 7 millions, surpassing 6 million Jews. Is that what you want? One State? I lost a brother fighting for this country in 73. And I am here fighting for his memory to save Israel as a Jewish State, democratic, decent and prosperous.
23. To: No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
1. Do not confuse deportation with repatriation. All illegal Arab squatters in Judea and Samaria are Jordanian citizens. Israel has a perfect right to send them home. 2. Israel knows far better than to trust the United States -- or any other country, for that matter. We are quite capable of looking after ourselves. 3. See No. 2 above. 500 million Moslems haven't done all that well against one-tenth the number of Jews, and nothing has changed. 4. Israel is a nuclear power, with a stunning arsenal. Don't try our patience.
24. To: No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
Have you run out of swamps that your grandfather cleared? May I recommend the Everglades? Watch out for the cottonmouths and alligators.
25. #22
Logic ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
The Palestinians won't get a state because they don't want peace, so they will have to settle for autonomy for the next few decades until they change their views. Their one-state claims are pure propaganda meant to stoke fear and gain concessions, since the PA will never give up their fiefdoms, perks, monopolies, foreign aid and VIP status. My sympathies with your loss. If I remember correctly, Sarah also had a tragedy, so everyone must avoid improper presumptions and stick to fair debate.
26. #15 a problem
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (07.10.12)
The problem is you don't have a better solution. You hint you want Lieberman's two states: a Jew-free state in Judea and Samaria and a Jewish state in what is left over. Apart from the fact that neither state would be viable, there is no Arab leader who accepts your solution. Even the most "moderate" Arab leaders require unlimited Arab immigration into whatever land is given to the Jews. At least you are finally waking up to reality. First, you agree that it was really stupid for Rabin and Peres to allow immigration of arounds 400,000 Arabs in the framework of Oslo. Second, you agree that the High Court and Meretz critically damaged Israel by allowing "family unity" immigration of Arabs. By the way, the Zionists' solution of liberating Judea and Samaria from the Arab occupation can be modified to overcome all of your concerns.
27. forked tongue
max ,   washington dc   (07.10.12)
As Native Americans would testify the European Settlers speak with forked tongues as they occupied and violated many treaties in establishing outposts, forts, settlements and forced migrations to concentration type reservations on what was the native Americans ancient lands.. The native inhabitants of Judea and Samaria are not occupying anyone's land but are returning to build and live on their ancestral lands.
28. # 23 Respect
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
Can you show a little bit of respect, please? This is a decent country that honour the memories of the people that died and fought for it.
29. # 23 Totally delusional
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
1. Arabs living in the West Bank are Palestinians, as defined by the same resolution that created Israel in 1948. You can deny it, and you can deny that the man went to the moon. Et pour si muove. Palestinians are Palestinians. Jordanians are Jordanians. If Palestinians were Jordanians they would have gone en masse to Jordan to free this horrible occupation imposed by us. This is so clear, dude. 2. The US is our biggest friend. We praise them and thank them for helping us and giving us reasonable advices. You are wrong and should be denounced as an AMerican traitor. 3. This is so nonsense that deserves no answer. 4. Israel is a nuclear power and a RESPONSIBLE one. We are not Pakistan, we are not North Korea. Threats like this only bring harm to us. We can NEVER say a thing like that to bring unsecurity and terror to the region. Once more you are trying to bring my country to the rogue states club, but you will not succeed. 5. Leave Israel, leave us alone. Go, go. 2.
30. Israeli, Israeli
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
There is a solution. Two States. The only solution. There are two States: Israel and Palestine. They can be viable and they can live in peace. You can dream that J & S is ours. But it is not. It is the same argument of Mexico in relation to California. Go dreaming... So what if there is no an Arab good leader to make peace? South Korea has the wors enemy ever, with nukes and they live side by side. If Palestinians don't behave well as a good neighbour, just attack it with our might and they will learn the lesson. About your comment on family reunification. 2.5 Palestinians under Israeli citizenship law will require family reunification and with 40% of the Knesset in Arabs hands, plus the Left, they will get all they want. Yes.. go dreaming about bigger Israel... go dreaming... Ersat Sarah B. has a second passport. She will leave as soon as Tibi runs for Prime Minister. And you? Where will you live?
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