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US displeased with Levy Report
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 10.07.12, 08:29
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31. To: No. 28
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
Oh, I have plenty of respect for those who cleared swamps and fought and died for the State of Israel. You just don't number among them and, quite frankly, I'm not all that sure that you are related to anyone that did.
32. Butt out United States
Joe Sombrero ,   USA   (07.10.12)
Bibi Make a choice who do you work for the United States or Israel?
33. Kobi Agree with not incorporating millions of Arabs to Israe
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.10.12)
Arabs they are The Palestinian covenant clearly says they are" part of the Arab race" and Palestine is "Arab land". Incorporating them as you say would be the rapid & painful end of Israel. Many of the Arabs moved to Palestine from sorrounding countries around the turn of the last century,far from all being natives or Jews converted by the sword all living there for millenia. Hamas claimed half were Egyptians and half Saudis. As I see it, the border needs to be drawn through the areas in the WB where there are minimal; numbers of Arabs.PA negotiating borders is not an option.Their people do not want long term peaceful coexistence and are incited against it. A recent example is a school program in the PA telling children not to smoke but get a machine gun & kill.Its there on Palestine Media Watch. Shalom
34. Hi Kobi
Mike the Pal ,   Palestine   (07.10.12)
You're absolutely right and I would like to let you know that at least 70% of Palestinians in the West Bank back your ideas 100%. There are only 2 solutions; 1 State or 2 States. Neither of us are ready for a 1 State so that only leaves 2 State Solution say for the next 50 years, and then we will both re-evaluate the experience either we continue or select to change. Otherwise we will be fighting for 20 ,ore years to get back to the same old 2 options.
35. #13 you speak without a brain
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.10.12)
I served in both the IDF and US Army as an officer in both. I am not about to cut and run - 25 years in the IDF - my name is not Ehud Barak - I don't cut and run.
36. Mike Repeated surveys contradict your claims as do
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (07.10.12)
the OFFICIAL racism, incitement and rejection by the PA & Hamas in the media,schools etc. Palestine Media Watch & MEMRI lets the cat out of the bag.Fortunately for the PA & Hamas & the Palestinians the worlds media just don't want to know.
37. # 33
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
Peter, it is not up to us do decide the kind of neighbour we want to have. Or do you think Syria and Turkey were not friends until one year ago? We need borders and we need to get rid of this awful image of occupiers and we need to get rid of people with double allegiances that from outside influence our politics. We need to be a normal country, respected, soverign and prosperous. Palestinians hate us and we hate them as all the Arabs. And that could not be different.. they wanted and want to throw us into the sea. Now, we are planning to bring more 2.5 Arabs to live with us? Don't come with the argument that Palestinians are new in the region because most of us here don't have 3 generations also. This can be used against Israel very quickly. The fight of Zionism now it the fight to keep the Jewish majority.
38. # 34 thank you
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
Thank you Mike. THere is a fight here of Zionists and those that want to finish up the Jewish majority in Israel. Most of them are foreigners that live abroad, safely in Brooklyn... it is easy for them the say Palestinians don't exist. But they do. And they want their State. As we do.
39. Pete the Aussi #36
Mike the Pal ,   Nablus, Palestine   (07.10.12)
ok, so your grand mom hit my grand mom and our media incites more than your media. So what? It doesn't change the basic fact that Kobi presented. We either share the land or divide it. Simplae choice Peter unless you suggest we keep denying the other, wasting our time and missing on incredible opportunities to grow and prosper while everyone one else (including South Korea) are conquering the world with their products. What do you say mate ;-)
40. Who has the final say?!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (07.10.12)
God's Holy Word! Israel will have ALL the land promised to their Forefathers--guaranteed! As for the fake Palestinians (the great lie), they are wiped-out...and, remembered no more--guaranteed!!!
41. And Israel is displeased that Pollard is still in jail.
Zev ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
42. Mike mate I say dont tell us what is not true
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (07.10.12)
as repeated surveys of Palestinians show.On the other hand the vast majority of Israelis surveyed do not want to rule over Palestinians. So lets not fool each other about what each side wants. Goodonya mate and peaceful coexistence as two seperate people.
43. But I am very happy about that report !!!
trump   (07.10.12)
44. Hey Jake #40
Mike the Pal ,   Nablus, Palestine   (07.10.12)
Tell me who taught you how to hate and have no respect for others; was it your God, your parents or is it something you developed yourself.
45. Sarah B
jdledell ,   New Jersey/Israel   (07.10.12)
Sarah - Rarely in my 67 years on this Earth have I read such stunningly arrogant commentary as you write. We have been tossed out of Israel and decimated numerous times in the last few thousand years. It can certainly happen again. Sticking a finger in the eye of the rest of the world by bragging about our nuclear weapons and threatening everyone by stating "don't try our patience" is a victory of immaturity - not reason. If the world wanted to, it could crush us like a bug. Grow up!
46. #38 Tiny leftist minority supports Two State Final Solution
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
#38 Kobi. When you talk of "we" wanting the Two State Final Solution, you are talking about a tiny and ever shrinking leftist minority. The vast majority of Israel rejects this abomination and supports Jewish sovereignty over our more than 3,500 year old ancestral heartland of Judea and Samaria. The demographic excuses to cede our heartland are proven myths. Jews are a growing majority in Israel, including Judea and Samaria. The real solution is paying Arabs to leave. Polls, conducted over several decades, consistently show most want to.
47. Peter SM, Your Choice
Mike the Pal ,   Nablus, Palestine   (07.10.12)
still doesn't change the basic question. Shall we share the land, divide it as Kobi suggested or fight over it? From the Palestinian point of view we are fed up with fighting and don't mind sharing or splitting. So, Your choice!
48. Question
dshap ,   miami, USA   (07.10.12)
My question for the State Department comes with a request. Please drop the political double speak before answering the following: The Levy report cites factual historical evidence to support it's conclusion that there is NO occupation. Specifically what factual evidence renders the report to be non-"legitimate" and to support the US State Department's objection to the report's conclusion? Absent substantiated objections Israel should, no must annex Judea, Samaria and all of Jerusalem, the eternal capital of Israel, the Nation State of The Jewish People. Before the haters begin throwing insults let me declare: Yes, I am a proud Zionist.
49. #22 Kobi. Your stats are false P.A. propaganda.
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.10.12)
#22. You quote statistics cooked up the by the P.A., and Israeli leftists, to scare Israel into ceding Judea and Samaria. Countless American and Israeli studies prove Jews are a growing majority in Israel, including Judea and Samaria. Leftist scare tactics aren't fooling anyone today.
50. # 45 jdledeli
Keren, IL-BR   (07.10.12)
She is not arrogant... she is nuts. Threatening use nukes to solve problems. This stuyot is the kind of thing our enemies copy and reproduce world wide to attack us. This Sarah should have her iP tracked and put in jail or deported.
51. to Chaim... about stats 49
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
They are not mine. They are Israeli and UN numbers. And israel accepts them. 2.5 Pals in the West Bank is a totaly reliable number. Add this to our 1.2 Arabs and you will have 3.6. Now image most of them demanding the Supreme Court to bring in a mother, a father, a partner from abroad as family reunification. And add to this the natural growth, further superior to our haredim. You are buying "countless" and "baseless" studies from antizionists in the US that want the one state solution. Get real. Dont be fooled by the antizionists.
52. Palestine Israel, 2 States, 1 Country, the ONLY option now
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (07.10.12)
53. Can someone pls give us the right stats
Mike the Pal ,   Nablus, Palestine   (07.10.12)
Peter, Sarah, Kobi, Chaim: Can you kindly advise me on what is the percentage of Israelis/Jews who believe that there are people called Palestinians and what is the percertage of Jews/Israelis who believe that the best answer to the Palestinian / Israeli conflict is to throw those "Fakestines" (like me and my family) into the Jordan river or across it.
54. to 46 Chaim
Kobi Martin   (07.10.12)
I am sorry to say, but you live in the realm of fantasy and dreams. There is no such a thing as Israel as a divine promise. This land was created as a safe heaven for Jews. Not because of Jerusalem nor Judea and Samaria. Remember we accepted the Peel Partition and the UN partition without Jerusalem. Had the Arabs accepted it, we would be living in those three small areas granted to us and that we danced joyfully in the streets that night. That was our goal, not Jerusalem. You can come with your 3.500 years of history but this will not remove 2.5 millions of Arabs here. They will not go away unless by force. If you think it is a myth, go ahead. Annex the West Bank and wait the beginning of a huge national movement of human rights like in South Africa and the black movement in the US. The next step will be a separatist movement... and back to the 2 State solution. This is a Jewish State and it can only be one with a solid Jewish majority. Jews don't oppress other people. We are here in this world to show we care for the others with love and respect.. .but it is better that he or she has his own State and let us create one with our identity and values.
55. At last! The base line is now in the proper context.
Harry Wright ,   UK   (07.10.12)
The US and Europe never wanted any serious and formal legal challenge to their unsubstantiated cry of "occupied territory". All they have been resorting to was screaming: according to "international law...". I want to see what legal grounds will be put forward by the US to prove that the Levy report is illegitimate. Or will it be frivolously illegitimate because it does not fit into the political viewpoint of the US and Europe. "The US position on settlements is clear" - but is that position based on legal or political considerations? And what if they really can't definitively prove that their position has legal standing? Will they continue to cling on to their illegal position? Interesting.
56. To: No. 45
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
Don't you dare lecture me on the history of the Jewish people. My parents (z"l) were concentration camp survivors -- each came from a large family and was the sole remaining survivor. I know all too well what it means to be Jewish. Sadly, it appears that you do not. Israel's nuclear power is not there to be a threat; it is there for two reasons, and two reasons only: (i) the defense of the State of Israel against attack by those who would prefer to see Israel disappear and (ii) the ultimate recourse in the event that such nations were to gain an upper hand. In that event, we will pull down the temple walls. We will take as much of the world with us as we can, and will render the balance uninhabitable for the next 100,000 years. Did the Holocaust teach you nothing, you stupid fool?
57. @ 7
RC ,   USA   (07.10.12)
The Muslims want Jerusalem, and the current liberal administration we have has been pressuring Israel to cede the land that has been historically theirs to the Arabs for a fake peace. The so called Palestinians belong in Jordan but no Muslim nation seems to want them as their citizens. They just use them for Muslim propaganda against Israel. Some of our Liberal politicians call themselves Christians but do not have a clue as to what the Holy Bible says about the matter: Amos 9:15, Ezekiel 34:13, and others. Israel is back where they belong and no one is going to pluck them out again, and that includes our Muslim in Chief, who claims he is Christian but has never publicly recanted Islam for he was born of a Muslim father. If our administration insists on helping the so called Palestinians acquire Jerusalem, then America will get God smacked in the not too distant future. It will be catastrophic for America. Have you not noticed nature has been turning against us lately? it will only get worse. The All Mighty יהוה who gave his name to Moses (Exodus 3:15) to proclaim to Israel is jealous for Jerusalem (Zechariah 1:14). Judea (Yahudah) carries most of His name in it as a sign.
58. ok, Harry Wright
Mike the Pal ,   Nablus, Palestine   (07.10.12)
Let's assume you're right and that The Jews have the legal right to build settlements in "Fakestine" and lets assume that even the Fakestinians like me don't have a problem with that. Then what Sir? You will build in Nablus and Ramallah and Toolkarim and Jenin and Jerusalem and Jericho and Hebron. Then who will live in TA, Safed and Haifa? Are you planning to come to Nablus to live as I am more than happy to swap with you and go to the UK, tomorrow.
59. who let the meshigeh sualeh b. out again?
david   (07.10.12)
60. To: The Fraud at No. 50
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.10.12)
You are a poor attempt at emulating the real Keren. You should stop trying, because you are not fooling anyone. Now go crawl back under your bridge, troll.
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