Common property of the church , yea , by exploiting the poors to give them . And paid the artists with the same money extorqued from the poors , or stolen from "non believers" who they ordered to be murdered .

I guess ,Madoff will not deny that.

In last 200 years no one is forcing you to follow a Catholic teachings or to donate money or labor to church. Try that living in Mea Shearim in Jerusalem, Boro Park, Monsey, New Square, Kiryas Joel, in US or Outremont in Canada to name few of them and let us know how long are you going to last there ,...

You know there is the "prince and Principalities" that give powers on earth. We fight not against flesh and blood but prince and principalities of the unseen world. When will we realize this and not give honor to those who take pride in power of this world. Their glory will not last. It's finite!

No ? do you remember the Finaly brothers ? This is the best known case , there are others too , unknown children who were NOT returned to their families or community . You forget the "got mitt uns" on the belts of the nazi murdering soldiers , and that they were often "blessed" by catholic priests before going to war . You forget a certain Tiso , slovak priest , prime minister who send Jews to nazi extermination camps . I have many ultra Orthodox living in my vicinity , no problems [ they are fine people ! ] But , while living abroad i was approached by catholics who tried to introduce me to christianity . More than once , wuithout any result of course .