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Kadima faction votes to quit coalition
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 17.07.12, 19:12
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31. what about drafting the arabs
heshy ,   brooklyn ny USA   (07.17.12)
What about drafting the arabs? They are allowed to marry young and have kids and get supported by the government while they endanger Israeli. Jews with their attacks. No chareidi should join the army until either the arabs are drafted or if they throw rocks be deported. And why should a chareidi send his youth to an army that has non Torah values.
32. #27 iran's laughing shall be turned into weeping
(07.17.12)
33. All of you are doing wrong Math
(07.17.12)
Before Mofas entered the polls gave BIBI an increase of 5 seats and Kadima loosin at least 10. Bibi can make today elec tions and will be asked to form a government. The Tal will be changed only in a logical way not like if it was hot spaguetti and will get cold. This is a problem created during 65 yeras by the leftists government, now they want to erase everything and start like nothing happened? Lapid wont get more than 10 seats and labor maybe 12 kadima migh get 10 maybe less Meretz might have 3 and the rabas arround 5 thAT MAKES IT 38 in best scenario ( I dont think arabs will enter any coaliotion) so that makes it 33. The remaining 82 will form a government if shas or the religious go out the coalition might loose 15 seats so again 82 - 15 is 67 even if all those 15 goes to the oposition they cannot make a government 15+33 is 48 against 67. Nataniahu can still fix the tal problem in a soft matter. Mofaz made the stupid mistake of his politicall agenda.
34. # 31
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.17.12)
The kind of Arabs you are talking about,in your talkback, I dont want in the IDF or near the IDF.
35. #1. Virtually no chance Shelly Y. will be next P.M.
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.17.12)
#1. Yair Lapid can open his mouth all he wants, but who is listening? In all likelihood, Yair will be even less successful than his father. Labor may win more mandates than Kadima but the two parties, and their allies, will come nowhere near 60 mandates. There is virtually no chance Shelly Y. will be the next P.M. The next government will almost certainly be lead by Likud.
36. 25
zionist forever   (07.17.12)
Bibi will be left with a very small coalition and without Shas he won't have a coalition. Shas are not interested in haggling over what age haredi should be drafted they want the Tal Law and nothing less. Bibi cannot agree to that if he doesn't want his core voters to see him as a haredi stooge and vote for Labor or Lapid. When he refuses the demands of Shas they will just pull out forcing an election. Before Mofaz came on the scene Bibi was all ready to hold elections because the coalition was breaking down now Mofaz is gone he is back to the same situation he was in before and with the Tal Law & the Levy report which he hasn't even tried to deal with yet this coalition doesn't have a chance in hell of lasting more than a couple of weeks.
37. Another short-fused demanding idiot Israeli who wants.......
CHIAO!!! ,   Israel   (07.17.12)
everything RIGHT NOW. These kind of self-serving politicians we don't need.
38. Prediction in new election by the numbers
Avramele   (07.17.12)
Likud 30 31 Yb.    13 Shas.  7 10 National religious camp 6 Agudah 6          62 -66 Labor 18-19 Lapid. 11-12 Kadima 10 Meretz 5 Arab.  11-12 Deri    3 Total Left bloc 54- 58 The only stable coalition might be to cut across right left lines and bring secular parties together for a government of 70 or so.
39. Israelis have the leader they deserve.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.17.12)
They need a common Jewish vision,in order to deserve a leader, man of vision. Otherwise,the more the government will change,the more it will be the same.
40. bibi is right
(07.17.12)
slow implementation is much better than a rash enforcement which will cause much civil pandemonium just because leftist hate haredim and would love to stick it to them. Sorry people don't work that way, and it's for sure religious devout don't work that. Mofaz is a moron for breaking the coalition over a few years on conscription, and once again leaving the rightist actually right. Then again who knows. Political considerations and self interest is all any of these clowns are about. Maybe Mofaz got a nice big check from Hilary to give to bibi good.
41. #40 good response... could this all be gamesmenship?
Robert ,   USA   (07.17.12)
I thought your reply was excellent and agree that Israel needs a unity government right now. Do you think it is possible that Bibi will still compromise and keep Kadima in the coalition? It seems to me he could, and that maybe this was to show the religious that he got the best deal he could get for them; slow implementation is better, and Mofaz wanting to go to 22 seems more fair than 26 because most are married by then (and therefore exempt (?))
42. Sex and government
.   (07.17.12)
The similarity between sex and government is that he just came in and already comes out. The difference is that sex is longer!
43. Kadima's late wake-up
Clean Air Bill ,   Brussels, Belgium   (07.17.12)
Before (kodem) Mr. Netanyahu took the responsibility to govern Israel in a responsible way to maximize social cohesion, it was, as far as I can know, Kadima (kadima) who was very much in charge for a pretty long period. If this core problem needed so urgently so drastically a solution that could be so easily agreed upon, why did Kadima not force ahead with that solution in their years of government? Neither early elections nor now charging so heavily as much against Likud as against Orthodox Judaism, both pilars of the State of Israel, does not seem to fit well in any interpretation of national democratic interest.
44. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Rollo ,   Brooklyn   (07.18.12)
LMAO All this over some white boys stuck on studying a black peoples history.
45. Haredim have created a system that has nothing..
Keren ,   IL-BR   (07.18.12)
...to do with Judaism . Judaism is about practice,judaism is vibrant and not something stuck as this people live and think. But moreover ,judaism is about Justice and Truth. It is UNJUST that these people let a burden as the army on others shoulders.This is selfshisness and not judaism and there is nothing in Torah that corroborates with such a thing. In my opinion,this system must be broken and it will be broken in a very tranquil manner which is SIMPLY obligating these men to go to army for 3 year. It is a shame that these men let women carrying arms and they sit and "study". ALL MEN MUST BE PREPARED TO FIGHT,and all women should do National Service. Shame of these haredim that let women to fight instead of them! SHAME ON THEM!!! No government should cave in to the shameful demands of these people.
46. Let us also speak with Justice
Keren ,   IL-BR   (07.18.12)
If the whole army does not change,indeed, one has to conclude that that envirnment is not good,and we must comply that haredim don´t want such thing to their children and they have a point. Women should not be in the army and the fun that the army has turned about must end ,for the sake of whole Israel. I repeat:WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE IN THE ARMY AMONG MEN. That IS NOT THE PLACE FOR A WOMAN. Women (ALL WOMEN)should do national service and men(ALL JEWISH MEN) should go to the army. Arabs should Do national service and only those really trustful and loyal to Israel should go to the army.
47. 40
Zionist forever   (07.18.12)
Mofaz is the one who will lose out here. If he had never joined the coalition he could have gone into an election as the new man at the helm of Kadima so give him a chance and he will do a good job. He wouldn't have won but he would still be the unknown quantity which may have helped a little. He joined the coalition showed everybody what he was about and then pulled out without achieving anything which will harm Kadima even further. There is also talk amongst some MKs of quitting Kadima and returning to Likud because they are worried about their jobs next election if Kadima go into meltdown as they are expected to do. If some of them do defect return to Likud then it might be the one thing that can save Bibi because unless he can get new coalition partners this government will be history in a matter weeks.
48. Very disappointed of Bibi.
Avi   (07.18.12)
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