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It won’t work without the Americans
Eitan Ben-Eliyahu
Published: 02.08.12, 19:56
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31. i hope the generals have more insight than this
david ,   new york   (08.03.12)
of course, only the US has the ability to do the job properly. no, i dont believe that only an air-war would be enough because iran can strike the US with terrorism and force a full scale war. also, its nice to wish for america to do something, but OBAMA (that idiot) is running it and he doesnt much care for israel (or for america). he will do nothing. one (suboptimal) possibility is for israel to start a war with the intention of america finishing it (not good for public opinion, but may be our only option)
32. What are you thinking?
Bill ,   Skokie IL. U.S.A.   (08.03.12)
President Obama is not going to go to war with Iran unless he has to. The only way to drag the United States Into this is for Israel to attack Iran before the elections, He will have to back Israel. If Israel waits until after the elections the only direct military help they will get is from President Romney. Unfortunately Romney has no chance of winning. President Obama will Nuke Iran after, and only after Iran nukes Israel. 144,000 that is all that will be left.
33. It wont work without G_d
Sam ,   Texas   (08.03.12)
Who is more powerful, the US or G_d? He puts His children in positions of having to depend on Him, and Him alone. Not some earthly low life kingdom like Egypt............or, the US Texas? Ha, that is another question! /joke
34. Send forth the boys
Vlad   (08.03.12)
Yes, it's common knowledge that the IAF will not be able to deliver the kind of crippling blow that is truly needed against Iran. That's why Mossad should be sent in. Netanyahu did a very cowardly thing when he scaled back it's operations, just because he doesn't want another political humiliation like Amman in 1997.
35. Only US
DEB ,   Wash DC   (08.03.12)
The piece is BS. Israel can inflict serius damage and delay. On the other hand it would be very helpful to have the US committed to Israel's defense wouldn't it? So, why do so many US jews overlook Obama's flagrant negatives and continue to support him. Is it some sort of death wish? Hard to understand!
36. One important part of the equation they're missing:
Jake Stone ,   USA   (08.03.12)
GOD!!! (Isaiah 54:17) No weapon will prosper against His chosen people--period (and guaranteed)! Don't worry...be happy... .
37. I do think with good selective targeting
Galut ia ,   Selah   (08.03.12)
Iran can be set back a number of years....taking out key critical industries and leadership is a must....just striking nuc facilities alone won't work...I am sure Iran has hidden key components and where possible they should be targeted.
38. He says "al tikfotz me'al ha'poopik" and he is correct.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.03.12)
Israel will be risking great embarrassment when its attack from the air amounts to very little. Ground attacks will not work either. Only through diplomacy can Israel have the chance to slow Iran's nuclear program down.
39. #33 Sam, After much research I found USA is more powerful.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.03.12)
40. Off the deep end with Sarah b.
Avramele   (08.03.12)
A nuclear attack!? Now there's a rational answer. Forget the collateral deaths of tens of thousands including Iranian Jews, discount the unpredictable reaction of Pakistan and Russia and china, the introduction of chemical and biological weaponry (why should they now remain verboten) and the disruption of half the world's economy. Yes let's nuke em and call it operation Samson and Sarah in honor of a blind soldier and a delirious talkbacker.
41. It won't work without
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (08.03.12)
the help of Iran's opressed minorities, kurds, turkomans, lezghs, azeris, beludsis, jazidis.
42. israel will have to KICK-START the process !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (08.03.12)
Absent of Israeli military action NOTHING will happen...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
43. wow, these talkbacks are crazier than usual
jj   (08.03.12)
especially sarah b. - a nuke? sure, youll be fine over in virginia, why worry about what a nuke would do. israel could definitely strike first on its own. but sustain a war on its own? no way. dont bother with talking about previous wars. the game has changed and if you cant see that, then you are more deluded than i thought. though thats not really what anybody means, is it? they mean to hit iran and then america will have no choice but to get involved when it escalates. one way or another, you are relying on the americans.
44. But Israelis mock US vacationers and olim
Josh   (08.03.12)
If an American can't reside and live a full life in Israel because of views of derogatory views and intentional attacks on them, why would we want to? The US has enough hold in the region now. Thanks but we can take a pass. The roosters have come home to roost? Oh thats Odinga's circles! Your chosen hero, no?
45. I hate defeatism.
Steve Klein   (08.03.12)
46. It Is A Chilul Hashem
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (08.03.12)
B"H It is a Chilul Hashem, a desecration of G-d's name, to say that "it won’t work without the Americans". With G-d's help of course it will. We just have to put our heads to it!
47. To: No. 40
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.03.12)
Please convert, Ibrahimeleh. You are no Jew. Or would you rather wait until the Moslem hordes at the gate force it upon you? You are an embarrassment to the Jewish people. You'd make a fine and dandy Moslem, though .... I suggest you consider it. Very seriously.
48. To: No. 44
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.03.12)
Well, I guess that would depend. Is it all about you, individually, or about the Jewish people and the State of Israel? I guess you need to decide what is more important -- shrinking in a corner and holding out hope that what happened to European Jewry is not going to happen to American Jewry, or standing proud and free in Eretz Israel. No one can make that decision for you, and I hope you live -- literally -- with whatever decision you make.
49. Won't happen with the "O" at the US helm
C-Low ,   US   (08.03.12)
50. Won't work without thé US
Floriane ,   Israel   (08.03.12)
Sure it Will if everyone works with each other instead of dissing! We don't need anyone. Just confidence in Haschem and ourselves no matter what Obama pretends to say he Will not go to war. He does not like Israel and won't lift his little finger for us. We got to it ourselves, we have the capacity. Time may be running out sooner than we think
51. A diatribe of cold reality
Cameron ,   USA   (08.03.12)
52. the mad mullahs
jeff ,   miami/jerusalem   (08.03.12)
The Iranian war machine will be destroyed one way or another. These mad dogs have only one oil refinery for the whole country, a few bombs will destroy it and put a dead stop to the iranian economy. In Yah we trust, if need be Israel would have to use tactical nukes. The USA would be attacked by Iran and all the nearby arab states; which want iran destroyed as much as we do. It's a matter of not if but when. We are already at war with iran and have been bombed enough by hamas and hez. With or without the USA and nato Israel can destroy thir nuclear program and their economy. Fear not Israel, YHVH is with us and is already destroying our enemies as prophesied ie syria and egypt and soon to be Iran. and to add its only our leaders timidity and stupidity that keep our vile enemies the plodious around and support their legitimacy. Yah will destroy His enemies even though we are weak in faith. History proves the veracity of TANACH its a sin and a shame more israelis dont read it. I've spent 45 years studying Yah's Holy words and His messengers have never lied. No one can refute it's truth; because it's proven by history. 65% of american zionist christians support israel because they know YHVH word is true. please let the reader read deutoronomy 28 &29 and all the prophecy in The Tanach to see and understand the Day of YHVH is coming upon the world and we are Yah's witnesses
53. Attack and live.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (08.04.12)
Old soldiers never die they just fade away. General Douglas McArthur. General Ben Eliahu should take the first route. This defeatist attitude will never work. 6,000,000 million Jews in Europe are still waiting for the great powers to save them. They are still waiting in heaven. Jews, israel fight and you will live, Jews do not fight and you will surely die.
54. arm-chair-warriors
RM ,   Mississippi US   (08.04.12)
I find it extremely worrying that some posters here think that it would be ok for israel to attack Iran with non-conventional arms ( nukes) Do you really think Israel could survive the consequenses? Do you really want to get the Armageddon started? Are you officially insane? Do you really think it's ok to kill many thousands just because you feel unsafe? And is your G-d ok with that you think? I don't think so....
55. crazy comments
Thea ,   Lienden   (08.04.12)
I can only hope that none of you armchairwarriors will ever get in a position of influence. nuke Iran what an idiotic suggestion. Go on without the US, also moronic. Wake up Israel, your leaders are leading you towards disaster.....
56. Never seen the talkback kids hop up & down like this
Cameron ,   USA   (08.04.12)
I've been warning you all as to the plain truth of it: you need the big dog if you're going to walk this Persian path. Straight talk from the former head of the IAF but settles the obvious.
57. Does Everyone Agree Iran
Brett ,   Forida   (08.04.12)
Has never purchased an atomic device already? A lot of bombs from the former USSR have never been accounted for. The ones they are bullding now are missle capable.And when they think they got it all together, they WILL use them. Israel...EMP their A$$... dark thirty in persia.
58. Not a lucid argument in the lot! TATA
(08.04.12)
59. Can't believe there are people seriously proposing
Sarah B (No not her)   (08.04.12)
starting a nuclear war to protect 6 million people, from having to live under the Auspices of Mutually Assured Destruction. Everyone accepts that Iran will achieve parity with Israel within 2 years whether they are bombed or not. Which is why the West have decided on a missile shield. You cannot ddestroy knowledge, no amount of bombing will do that, and I really do not think it is a good idea to piss off a country with more combat veterans than Israel has people.
60. davrub@netvision.net.il
David ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.04.12)
Oh my, ohmy. The nut Sarah B of USA /Israel is here again. Please Y-Net, can't you spare us this nut's ravings?
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