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UK: Judge allows Jewish girl, 10, to convert to Christianity
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Published: 05.08.12, 08:29
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31. sick
(08.05.12)
32. What did the father do to influence this child that the
rebecca ,   Modiin   (08.05.12)
mother did not do? How religious was this family? How good and loving a home? We dont know. What's done is done. The mother must now look at what it will take to get her daughter back to her religion - that means the mother must take her religion seriously and show her daughter the best parts of it. And prey that her daughter sees the right path, rather than a judge.
33. They want to prevent a brit before age of concent
rebecca ,   Modiin   (08.05.12)
but a 10 year old can make up her own mind on religion?
34. The Jewish mothers religion was recognized as a mitigating
r ,   Atlanta   (08.05.12)
factor in conversion....it sounds like the dad wanted daughter to wait also before baptism.Judge over stepped his jurisdiction as this is obviously a child not ready for the decision.
35. #24
albert ,   uk   (08.05.12)
I do not believe you are jewish my friend. Even an ignorant jew knows that the word goy is not derogatory at all and merely means a 'nation'. In the bible the ALMIGHTY promises to make abrahams descendents into a great 'GOY'- nation!! Unbelievable how people like to show off their ignorance
36. I wonder what would the Christian Judge rule if she
(08.05.12)
wanted to convert to Islam or Wicca!
37. #34
Ivor Evenbiggergun   (08.05.12)
Actually the Mother wanted the child to wait until she was 16 before she made the decision. Her father had also been surprised that his daughter wanted to convert. It is just sad that it ended up in court, and like all kids her parents had agreed to make her wait 6 years and then make her mind up. But thing that really swayed the judges decision was the submission by a Rabbi, which could have been written by a crazy person.
38. Responce to 29
Israeli ,   Israel   (08.05.12)
We are trying to save our Jewish identity and it disturbs to see another jewish person dropping out We do not hate christains,but a moran like you should look back into history, you will find who is hating whom.
39. Very sad story very wicked judge
Dan ,   Israel   (08.05.12)
After winning over 2000 years pogroms, prefering death to conversion was the pride of the Jewish people. The evil judge made the most of the weakness of a little girl to exploit her accept a false religion. The girl is a Jew forever, they can't change that, and i hope a real Jew will open her eyes one day, so she will cancel the horrible choice she made. Judaism is the truth and only truth.
40. If she is happy to be like she wants to be , all the best
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (08.05.12)
to her.Who we are to judge a fellow human being.
41. 35 So ...
Charles   (08.05.12)
When someone is called "goy" it's really a compliment and, as you say, "not derogatory at all"? Well I too must be ignorant, sorry for showing it off.
42. Jarda anybody can apply for Israeli citizenship.Vietnamese
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (08.05.12)
Bosnian Moslems etc
43. T why do you write such ignorant garbage ?
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (08.05.12)
There are interfaith events in Australia all the time. Is that what YOU are taught?
44. "judge decides on a relgious matter ?!
UnbelieveableJudge ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.05.12)
He decided what is best for her and that she should be baptised immeadialy" Another reason to get out of the U.K.
45. 36 That's brilliantly right!
Charles   (08.05.12)
We all know how those Bible-thumping Brits are when it comes to Christianity and Islam. I never thought of it that way until you insightfully shared that.
46. #29 - jews don't hate christians
israel   (08.05.12)
It's not about hate, its about leaving the faith. I personally haven't heard any jews/israelis saying that they hate or dislike christians. Don't forget that although Jesus was Jewish, the Jews were blamed for centuries for his death and were persecuted and expelled for it by Christians, they made us suffer. So before you question our education, ask what christians were being taught for so long and why they were so evil towards us when they are meant to be following Jesus' teachings.
47. #46 yes you do
Ivor Evenbiggergun   (08.05.12)
Otherwise this would be a complete non story about individual choice. Not to mention the downright hostility Jews show to Christian pilgrims wishing to visit Bethlehem and Jerusalem on pilgrimage
48. jews hating christians
T ,   sydney australia   (08.05.12)
so from all the hostility and replies i see jews saying christians persecuted them centuries ago? i highly doubt it, maybe catholics did maybe romans did but a true christian could not. and do you think these people are the same as today? the muslims hate jews and christians equally, isnt that enough hate? why hate each other? i love israel and im christian, no matter what you say i will always love israel. get over it
49. You must be born again
Anna ,   Philadelphia, usa   (08.05.12)
As a Christian you must be born again and be water baptized. Once you are born again you receive the gift of the Holy Spirit who becomes your one and only teacher. True Christians are friends of the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. He is also my saviour.
50. #29 lol why do jews hate christians?
ester   (08.05.12)
i fell off my chair when i read this..
51. Maybe the mother should take the daughter
jason white ,   afula, israel   (08.05.12)
to visit Yad V'Shem. Let her see what happened to 6,000,000 Jews by her new xtians coreligionists. Maybe she should ask her father to explain that? Hopefully the judge's children will convert to islam and move to yemen. Finally to the father and daughter, you have kept up hitler's job of eliminating Jews from the world.
52. to #47 who told you that, chritians don't get no hostility
ghostq   (08.05.12)
in the holly land from jews, you misstaken it for muslims that try to drive chritians out, beithlechem isn't in Israel responsibility that is y there r more mosques there than churches, I myself saw how muslim built a mosque right in front of a Sint Maria church in nazarath. the muslim also pray in front of the church just out of spite,
53. #45 Please do share your insight, What do 'we all know'?
Oleh hadash   (08.05.12)
54. Ariel Ben # 5
Arnold ,   Canada   (08.05.12)
Both Christianity and Islam proselytize their religion. Maybe the girl was coerced a little but unless one knows what brought this Jewish family to this point it is unfair to call xtians "evil'
55. born a Jew, die a Jew
ecr   (08.05.12)
doesn't matter what you think or even believe. A Jew comes from a Jewish mother or halachically converted, zehu! She can say next year she wants to be a buddhist, same difference- she's a Jew.
56. All her friends are Christian....
David ,   Hartford USA   (08.05.12)
so this is simply wanting to be like everyone else, to fit in. The divorce was just the opportunity to get away with it. I'm not sure what kind of Judaism the family practiced, if any, but it obviously didn't make a big impression on this young lady. Give her a few years of putting a cracker in her mouth and drinking Jesus's 'blood' and maybe she'll reconsider her decision.
57. Always Jewish? Somebody help me please
Linda ,   New Haven, Conn   (08.05.12)
If she coverts to Xtiianity how will she be Jewish, is Jewishness a race/ethnicity or a faith system? Someone please help me???? She will be a Jewish Xtian?
58. @29
david suurland ,   leiden netherlands   (08.05.12)
I think you should first realize that the talkback page on Jpost is hardly representative of judaism or jewish opinion. 2nd. Histroical experiences with christianity have been VERY poor to say the least. 20-30 years of improvements dont take away 2000 years of misery and persecution. 3d. I too think the opinions voiced her are ridiculous I am 100% halachically Jewish and couldnt care less if a Jew converts to Christianity or vice versa. To each his own. as long as the choice is voluntary and does not include force. actually, i do believe that is a basic human right. What youa re seeing here is base tribalism, which unfortunately does still exist in some corners of Judaism. I prefer the more educated version though.
59. at 33.
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (08.05.12)
That was Germany, this is England, savvy? Some talkbackers here seem to believe Europe is one big country. It isn't.
60. at 36...sigh....
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (08.05.12)
1. We have no way of knowing wether or not the judge is a Christian. He probably isn't since Western-Europeans are generally not very religious. 2. What he would say? The same. England is a free country.
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