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Beit Shemesh: Signs excluding women still up
Moshe Heller
Published: 06.08.12, 15:40
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1. So what ? Le them have their way...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.06.12)
in their neighbourhood.
2. Religious Action Center?
Sherlock Holmes ,   London UK   (08.06.12)
Are there complaints from many women who live in Beit Shemesh demanding the right to loiter outside the synagogue? Are there complaints from women being acosted for wearing sleeves above the elbow? Or is it just Reform again attacking Haredim?
3. One fact is for certain
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (08.06.12)
They get together at night
4. Secular laws enforcement is lenient.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.06.12)
I have been noticing it for years. Religious, especially the Haredim, get away with all kinds of violations. It's because Israeli secular are not fully committed to eradicating Jewish religious coercion. Secular Israelis are lenient people when those penguins do their foilischticks. This smells with old time Jewish schtetl mentality, repulsive to me.
5. good grief, can't we live and let live?
ma nishma ,   modiin   (08.06.12)
Do we have to be noodniks in places that doesn't concern us? So the ultra-orthodox want to be very modest in their own areas, so what? Let their women wear sacks and men fur hats as long as they are happy, so am I. The problem is when some one tries to put their values on another. I say, live and let live. Have respect for the other person and stay out of their lives.
6. Shape of things to come: look&learn, Medinat Halaha, here it
tom ,   tel aviv   (08.06.12)
comes.This is just a "teaser"/ miniature... I vividly see a future (thanks to us, seculars, that are breeding ourselves out of the gene-pool) where various competeing factions of the drugged population keep on inventing more and more frumme ways to obtain religious madness. Religion should be politely but firmly placed beyond contempt of every human being. It has to be done since birth, during upbringing and education. Otherwise human race has no future that's worth living in.
7. B-O-R-I-N-G
Aviva ,   Israel   (08.06.12)
Don't you ever get tired of these "news" articles? Or is there just nothing happening here in Israel? Or did I accidentally open to a YNET article from 5 weeks ago....I mean 2 months....I mean....?
8. respect others
puzzled ,   israel   (08.06.12)
Why do these people have to make trouble.? They do not live there . It just makes you wonder if the whole fiasco in December was so "innocent".. troublemakers on BOTH sides. yuck
9. No, not let them have their way!
(08.06.12)
The thinking amount the residents, is that our laws do not apply to them. They lied about their intentions, and continue to lie. One one hand, calling themselves righteous, and accepting our tax dollars. On the other hand, flagrantly disobeying the very same laws that provide their safety and sustenance. The behavior of these arrogant and self-righteous people, give Judaism and Israel a bad name.
10. Also separate toilet signs still up!
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (08.06.12)
11. Don't know how to deal with them?,...
snag ,   USA   (08.07.12)
An expulsion is out of the table, no nation wants them. can't make them work or serve. Little pogrom will do it, a centuries of an experience of having them for a neighbors will show you that's the only way to get their attention for a while otherwise you'll be the next one on their list they managed to bankrupt,...
12. 1. So what ? Le them have their way...
snag ,   USA   (08.07.12)
Have you ever see a brown/rotten banana? The process called a decomposition starts with a one tiny brown spot ,...
13. Snake 11 & 12
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.07.12)
During centuries many snakes have organised pogroms , they were "strong" but they have fed the ants , while the Jewish people is still here , strong , in a strong country , with Jews contributing to Humanity worldwide , while snakes stay in their holes , with their ignorance , lies , distortions of truth . Your kind of snakes have one place ; ten feet below earth .
14. 12snag,have you ever heard...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.07.12)
that snakes turn milk into poison?
15. Where's your article on what's going on in Kiryat Yoval
(08.07.12)
and Kiryat Menachem when your kind of people are hanging porn posters all over religious neighborhoods? Who can blame Beit Shemesh residence? If they don't stick to their belief, Beit Shemesh will end up looking like those neighborhoods. YNET, WHY DON'T YOU MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE PHOTOS HUNG BY SECULAR?
16. saudi arabia? Iran? NO, Israel!
Ze'ev   (08.07.12)
No worry, people, soon they will hang up such signs in ALL neighbourhoods! Guess you all will be pleased than!?
17. Nonsense
Naftali ,   Seattle, WA   (08.07.12)
The whole exclusion of women being said in the Torah is nowhere to be found and there is no justification at all. Those who think that it is so to prevent distraction of being attractive to women from a man are ignorant of being a normal human being and how the Almighty creates us.
18. 13 BRAVO CHARLES ! !
(08.07.12)
19. Proof of victimization of followers
Josh   (08.07.12)
Lets face it, the signs are not about the women but rather to keep followers from seeing women until they earn the right from the Rabbis to have one of their own. It is the best way to get a young man to listen and believe garbage on the chance they will get a woman as reward. Harnessing natural drives for power. Proof the Hebrews have been captured and oppressed. The "what ifs" removed the freedom of Jews. What if you see and cannot control and sin. Bunk! Oppression of Jewish males via women denial.
20. 13 - :) ,...
snag ,   USA   (08.07.12)
There a reason why locals in 109 countries and places got fed up with them and kicked them out ,...
21. Yes , there are reasons : to take their money
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.07.12)
because they didn't want to convert . They did it when they had problems themselve , so they needed a scapegoat . But smart leaders let them in . So did the Turkish one , after fanatic catholics had expelled the Jews from Spain . THe Turkish Vizir [ ? ] even thanked the spanish rulers for the fine gift he received . He knew what Jews could bring to him : prosperity .
22. 18 , No value without your name .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.07.12)
23. My 21 is for 20 , snake
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.07.12)
24. What if this sign were in South Africa?
Johanna ,   Orlando, USA   (08.07.12)
Gender apartheid is just as bad as any other apartheid. Note to men of Beit Shemesh: do the rational thing-- move to Afghanistan. You'll feel right at home there.
25. Enforce the law
Scarborough1414 ,   Scarborough, Ont.   (08.08.12)
The Hareidim in Beit Shemesh and its satellite towns are just like the motorcycle gangs. If you let them stay, they make the rules. If the authorities crack down on them, they'll move on to greener pastures. So, take down the signs, arrest anyone who tries to put them up again (arrest the sign makers too!) and keep up sting operations with women officers. Arrest the perps! We must defend what is ours! There is no "their neighbourhood, our neighbourhood", it's all one Jewish land. BTW, did they arrest the bastard in B. Shemesh who harassed an 8 year old girl? He's lucky I'm not her father. Brave man! Next time try it with me and see what happens, brave man.
26. 21 - to take their money ,...
snag ,   USA   (08.08.12)
And rightly so, money extorted by usury ripping off Goyim not earned by making a product - How long did it take them to stab the Ottomans in their back. Who do you think organised and financed the young Turks revolt to get rid of Ottomans and install a Turkish Lenin a converted to Islam Jew Ataturk? ,...
27. Nothing gonna happen in Beit Shemesh
Erika ,   Israel   (08.09.12)
because the local government is also Haredi.....they not gonna arrest their own fellows.....The second thing,people are afraid to go to Ramat Beit Shemesh,because not once happened that the haredim behaved like animals!!!Come on people,this is normal???This is `live and let to live`????This is the tolerance??? S-A-D!!!!!!
28. Snake 26 , stay in your hole TRY # 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.12)
There you can tell your stupid lies . Ataturk was NOT a convert , maybe Jewish ancestors . Jews made their money thanks to their knowledge of foreign langauges , their relations worldwide , their brains . How did Jews stab the Ottomans in their back ? By helping to liberate their own country where we live today ? AQnd , the Young Turks did'nt expell the Jews either , they needed them too . Remember , almost 20 % of all Nobel prizes where awarded to Jews . Why ? Also because of their knowledge . Why do you think that the great HiTec companies [ Microsoft , Intel , HP , to name a few ] have RD in Israel ? So snake , continue to drag on the ground , that's your place .
29. 28 - have RD in Israel ? ,...
snag ,   USA   (08.09.12)
To translate Goyim's knowledge to hebrew and yiddish ??? By the way not one of those 20 % (exaggerated of course) was born and educated in Israel, why ? Maybe because there's nothing or no one to steal from ;) ,...
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