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Mohels protest restriction on 'suction' during circumcision
Moshe Heller
Published: 10.08.12, 06:48
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1. Totally Un-called For
Daniel ,   US   (08.10.12)
I respect and love Jews, but this is utterly ridiculous - please, dear friends, use a pipette. This is disgusting and ludicrous.
2. end this barbaric ritual
david ,   Jerusalem   (08.10.12)
for a moment there forget this ritual is based on a 3000 year old "sacred" book, OK? You are visiting a family and they just had a baby boy. You tell them you have an idea: call some witch and tell her to bring a knife with her to cut the newborn's penis. First you give the baby some alcohol of course. After the cut is performed, the witch will suck the baby's penis. In a perfect world (that is, one without religion) you would be thrown in jail just for presenting the idea, let alone if you were to actually perform this barbaric ritual. Nobody has the right to mutilate a baby, specially since religion advocates it.
3. The Jewish Reshaim should study babies who have been
Moshe   (08.10.12)
circumcised and not gone through metzitzah b'peh and contacted herpes. GET OUT OF ISRAEL and LEAVE RELIGIOUS ALONE !
4. JEALOUSY is the reason chilonim are always busy with haredim
Moshe   (08.10.12)
Does a day go by that chilonim would not find faulth with religious G-d fearing Jews?
5. Judaism must evolve as knowledge increases
Dr. R. U. Kidding ,   USA   (08.10.12)
This outrageous practice flies in the face of medical science, not to mention is considered a perverted act by most developed cultures. I was raised Orthodox but thankfully had parents who taught me to use my god given common sense and reject the ramblings of primitivedesert dwellers who advocated some pretty disturbing acts. Of course I will be attacked by those who are so steeped in indoctrination that they have never held an original thought in their brainwashed craniums as they march in lockstep to ancient beliefs based upon disproven superstitions.
6. Models
Mark ,   US   (08.10.12)
Personally theses men should be locked away for indangering an infants life. Circumcision period is barbaric and un-necessary.
7. the sucking rabbis
abdalla   (08.10.12)
8. CHILONIM ARE OUT TO DESTROY JUDAISM ONCE AND FOR ALL
(08.10.12)
Not only in Germany are Jews persecuted, not only in Switzerland are Jews persected, not only in Austria are Jews persecuted, not only in the U.S. are Jews persecuted, BUT IN ERETZ YISRAEL, the JEWISH COUNTRY, TOO! Metzitzah b'peh causes causes herpes is a LIE and the IAPA and Health officials all know it. The 2 stories where there was herpes in the family but the DOH (probably some self-hating Jews as usual) maintained that it's from the circumcision.
9. # 8: what is the basis of your comment?
Runner1983 ,   USA   (08.10.12)
What is your source that the practice is not a health risk? The evidence indicates that it is a risk. Contrary to your statement, it is those who violate the primary tenet of Judasim to cause no harm that will destroy Judasim.
10. circumcision...saliva is a coagulent
George Fink ,   Melbourne Australia   (08.11.12)
the habit of sucking the penis after circumcision may derive from the fact that saliva promotes coagulation of blood...thus most mammals lick their wounds. See, for example, Blood. 2011 Mar 17;117(11):3172-80. Epub 2011 Jan 19. Cell-derived vesicles exposing coagulant tissue factor in saliva. Berckmans RJ, Sturk A, van Tienen LM, Schaap MC, Nieuwland R.
11. No medical reason to suck a kid's wiener. There are meds
J   (08.11.12)
12. Even If It Wasn't The Age Of Herpes ...
World Citizen ,   the world   (08.11.12)
This Ritual Is Bizarre.
13. Leeches Are Bloodsucks
Golden Dome ,   Washington USA   (08.11.12)
Doing what they do. Looking out for their own interests and wraping it all in tradition while playing the persectution card. Now that's tradition.
14. Paedophilia no other word describes this
Ivor Evenbiggergun   (08.11.12)
Male Genital Mutilation must be banned in all civilised countries unless for medical purposes.
15. Chasam Sopher
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (08.12.12)
As far back as the 19th Century Gedolim like the Chasam Sopher and Rabbiner Samson Raphael Hirsch supported the sterile tube alternative. In the Diaspora this seems to be the norm. Why take even a small risk if there is a better Halachically acceptable alternative.?
16. disproven superstitions?
Joseph ,   London UK   (08.12.12)
If we look at the basic Covenant between G-d and the Jewish people it says as long as you keep the Laws you will exist throughout history as witnesses to G-d's presence in this world. Bris Milah is the sign of the Covenant. I don't see any superstition -- we ARE still here as a resurrected people back in their ancient land. What has been disproven?
17. Number 6 endangered babies?
Danny ,   London England   (08.12.12)
How many Jewish baby boys circumcised by a qualified Mohel have been endangered? I spoke to two senior Jewish doctors with nearly a century of expeience between them and both said they cannot recall any Jewish baby's life endangered by a qualified and registered Mohel.
18. you are wrong dear watson
sherlock? ,   world   (08.12.12)
At least and for sure HaChasam Sofer DIDN'T SUPPORT THE TUBE ALTERNATIVE
19. It's child abuse
Joshua ,   NYC, USA   (08.12.12)
Circumcision is cruel enough to force on a child - and I say this as a circumcised Jew [no, I am not self-hating or an atheist] - without the insult of subjecting him to sexual abuse. An adult putting their mouth on a child's penis is disgusting under any circumstance. Not to mention, it's just a way to spread numerous diseases. It has nothing do with the circumcision described in the Torah. It was added to the ritual hundreds of years after we began practicing circumcision. These "mohelim" are nothing more than pedophiles who are hiding behind religion [and they're be paid for it!].
20. oral suction of circumcision wound
karen goldis ,   st petersburg, usa   (08.14.12)
if anyone here is actually justifying oral suction on a baby's penis, it is impossible to justify. Don't even try. It is no less pedophilic than any other rape of a hcild.
21. Metzitzah B'peh
Ron Mendelsohn ,   Brooklyn, NY U.S.A.   (04.10.13)
So they actually practice this perverted custom; i.e., sucking the baby's schlang following circumcision. I had heard about this a few years back, but thought it was just anti-semitic calumny; akin to the "blood libel". Now I know it's a fact. These people (Hasidim) are indeed twisted. So now, in their community, the Mohel is a circumciser (which is a legitimate function) and cocksucker, all rolled into one. Funny, I read Martin Luther's treatiste on Jewish circumcision, and I didn't come across this; odder still, considering that he was a virulent anti-semite.
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