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EU politicians ignore Muslim world’s crimes
Manfred Gerstenfeld
Published: 09.08.12, 11:29
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1. Europe is really only ...
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.09.12)
... little more than a giant Jewish cemetery. That's why it is so easy to ignore the EU's silly prattling. Nothing has changed in Europe, except that now that there are so few Jews left in Europe, it is much easier to make the State of Israel the focus of their anti-Semitism. Heaven forbid they should turn their focus inward and acknowledge what a horrible mess they have always made of things. Imagine -- no Jews left to blame, so it must be the fault of the State of Israel. No wonder the EU -- and all of Europe, actually -- is such a laughingstock in the civilized world. Europe is a dinosaur, well on its way to extinction. Good riddance.
2. "Haaretz" today :Pal& Israeli women fight the same oppressio
ab   (08.09.12)
by religion and male-dominated society. Ashton could just quote it from there explaining coindemnations of Israel as "fight for womens equality"
3. Looking for religious criminals? Try Shas
Haim ,   TA   (08.09.12)
4. Not ignoring just too scared to do anything
tf ,   herzliya il   (08.09.12)
5. to No.1
Paul ,   Israel   (08.09.12)
quote '... little more than a giant Jewish cemetery' that is plain american ignorance and stupidity. I guess you have been living there for too long and you are more american than israeli. You are a little 'know it all', aren't you? shame on you for such a statement
6. 2 Haredi women don t feel ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.09.12)
oppressed at all.Ask them, instead of believing the antiharedi media. In a Haredi family everything turns around the wife and mother .They are loved and revered.Every friday night husband and children sing "Eshet Hayil" in her honour. She is the queen of the house.
7. Sarah you sure like trolling don't you?
Penny   (08.09.12)
The collective people and countries of Europe have a long and turbulent history but now have achieved what young Israel can only dream of... regional peace and cooperation on a scale that was undreamed of a 100 years ago. While imperfect Europe is in a far better place compared to the hole that Israel has dug for itself. I dare say that Israel and yourself can take a leaf out of Europe's book and get over your deep ingrained bitterness and try compromise rather than belligerent arrogance.
8. Great piece as always from Gerstenfeld!
Charles S.   (08.09.12)
If anything, the criticism was even too mild perhaps. What they richly deserve is total blowout from Israel.
9. europe can revel
real vision ,   usa   (08.09.12)
in the fact that Jews are leaving most european countries because again they do not feel safe to live. But anti semitic Europe will in this next century writhe with enormous pain as the 20 million muslims and counting contribute nothing to european society and suck european culture and life dry. Enjoy the coming sharia that you now are completely blind to
10. Penny # 7
Arnold ,   Canada   (08.09.12)
You speak of European "regional peace" . Well WW11 ended in 1945. Since then there have been minor wars within the slavic states and the hatred still simmers like that of a volcano waiting to explode. The Euro is failing and animosity is just below the horizons. That takes care of your European dreaming. Now Israel. Speak to the Arabs about their love for Israel or rather their love for Jews. Those Arabs have been slaughtering Jews in PALESTINE even before the State of Israel was reborn. Educate yourself Penny before posting idiotic drivel.
11. #7 penny - one problem;
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.09.12)
One must have someone to talk to, who is serious about peace. If you would pay attention you would see the arabs are not in this category. They run away faster the closer they get to peace. They put up conditions they know Israel cannot accept, especially without discussion, and then try to ‘do it themselves’ through the UN in order to avoid having to agree with anything having to do with Israel. They have a deep ingrained bitterness, blaming others for what they themselves have caused. Their belligerent arrogance shines through. Did you know that Hamas and Hezbollah have sworn to kill the Jews (not ‘just’ Israel but all Jews)? And Iran is not far behind. Open your eyes, then post...if you dare.
12. europe's downfall
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (08.09.12)
Sarah you're 100% right,I'm returning to live in Israel next month after 55 years of living in canada.Canada is a GREAT PLACE for jews to live in but I wouldn't give you a dollar to live in europe.They are slowly sinking and shortly will experience the 911 for themselves,I will laugh out loud.
13. funny
Tamar ,   Jerusalem   (08.09.12)
It's really amazing how everyone is "fighting"for the haredi women, poor haredi women indeed, the thing is i don't see or hear NONE of them complaining about anything,nobody is asking them if they feel oppressed.So, i say it again,i don't feel oppressed and lower then my husband or any other religions or secular man.I feel respected and cherished and good,i choose to be religious and i feel much better and appreciated today then i ever felt before. So, maybe someone can let the others know we don't need protection and wars. We only need to be left alone!But, like there is no day without saying something again haredi, i think i am asking for too much...
14. to #7 really? so y in France jews were killed
ghostq   (08.09.12)
from Halimi murder case to the latest.
15. EU leaders were probably bad pupils from biology ology
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (08.09.12)
in the elementary school. They did not learned the lesson, that a specific bird ( cokook ) exists, which lays their eggs into other bird's nest. Finally the host birds eggs are out, and the small kakook will survive alone. In my example the kakooks are gronlands eskimos and the host birds are papuas from New Guinea.
16. Penny,why don't YOU compromise over Islas Mavinas or Gibralt
ab   (08.09.12)
(you're Brit I geuess) .Incomparably less dangerous to you than any compromise Israel could possibly make to the existence of the country and Israelis.
17. to #3 I think you can park your space ship
ghostq   (08.09.12)
near the hospital, cause we r talking about murdering jews in Europe, like in France. in other words get real.
18. Europe is a great place
Em ,   EU   (08.09.12)
Beautiful cities and landscapes, well educated population, and still unbelievably prosperous. (Just look around...) But if you hate it so much, why do Israelis keep applying for double passports?
19. Europe is digging it's own grave.
tiki ,   belgium   (08.09.12)
Those who 'started with the Jews, ALWAYS pay the price in the end! Look at Europe...it's paying the price NOW for helping the Nazi's then and Germany is paying for ALL! Why now? Because the potts were allowed to get full with money & goods and now they are empty, so it hurts as it should, because they didn't learn anything! The Arabs/Muslims havn't stopped paying and continue to do so. Except for a few, the rest is parishing in poverty. US was OK, when they will start with the Jews, they to will 'pay the price. And Israel.......? It's doing good!
20. 90% of Europe is simply not interested in Israel at all
berlonski ,   berlin   (08.09.12)
21. following events in europe
HaifaGuy   (08.09.12)
is like watching a slow funeral.
22. Arnold no. 10
Penny   (08.09.12)
As for the Euro of course it will rise and fall, the whole nature of economic, like so many things, is cyclical. As for the killing of Jews before the state of Israel, tell me Arnold was that before or after the mass influxes of non-indigenous Jews into Palestine because guess what mass influxes of non-indigenous people results in ethnic animosity. Do you honestly think that the Arabs would welcome hundreds of thousands of Jews and willingly share or give up their land?! Get real.
23. Solomon no. 11
Penny   (08.09.12)
Solomon you say that one must have someone to talk to and who is serious about peace. Tell me why Israel refused the Arab Peace Initiative of 2002? What terrible conditions were contained within this peace offer that Israel could not accept?
24. #7 you are right
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (08.09.12)
And how was the European peace achieved? The good guys totally defeating the bad guys, including carpet and incindiary bombing of Germany with massive rape and looting of Berlin. You might not realize it, but you are agreeing with the Zionists and condemning the Leftists. If Israel was allowed to defeat the Arab Nationalists and the Islamists, then dictated the terms, there would have been peace long ago. As Jerry of Netherlands says: BIG ISRAEL = TRUE PEACE
25. to Penny
HaifaGuy   (08.09.12)
Hey 1/2wit, we ARE indigenous. Does the name Judea stir any historical connotations with you?
26. 24 - totally agree
HaifaGuy   (08.09.12)
If West's unconditional acquiescence and appeasement of Islamofascism continues, it will inevitably lead to WW3, which will end with carpet bombings of Iranian cities, Dresden style. Too many Chamberlains, Churchills are nowhere to be found. Stop procrastinating!!! This is not 1933, this is 1939!
27. Calls to destroy Israel far more frequent in Saudi Arabia...
Miron ,   USA   (08.09.12)
and their sublet, Muslm Brozeer in Egypt. It's not that I have to state the obvious, but Arab men who stood to the both, namely, Gaddafi and Mubarak were either killed with animal atrocity at the behest of present time US President, Barak Obama, including grandchildren, or persecuted. So, why fingerpoint at one bad actor, when it seems genocide is now popular in best houses of London?
28. Penny 22 . Learn some history
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.12)
When Jews began to settle here , in the 1880's , the country was underdevelopped . As they needed workforce , people in search of a livelyhood came from countries as far as Yemen and Soudan . The first Jew to be murdered was in 1886 , long before the massive influx of Jews . Arabs here did'nt give up lands , arab landlords , mostly living in Beyrouth , sold their grounds , at high price , to Jews who began to devellop the country . Arabs here settled on empty places , and then claimed this to be theirs since generations . Jews living here since generations were murdered too , Hebron 1929 as an example . Arabs also murdered Jews who wanted to pray at the Western wall in Jerusalem . The best proof of you being wrong are those 1.5 million Israeli arabs who live here , most of them very well , who enjoy the high living standards , the possibilities to acceed at high positions [ even a High court Justice ] everything they can't dream of in any surrounding country .
29. Penny , why did arafat reject the propositions
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.09.12)
Barak made in 2000 ? and began the intifada ? Why did the arabs reject the partition plan of 1947 , where they would receive much more ? The "peace" plan of 2002 was not a peace plan at all . They wanted us to surrender to all their requirements , as if we had lost the six days war the arabs provoked themselve .
30. Again: Ashton's is the face of Europe!
tom ,   tel aviv   (08.09.12)
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