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US, Turkey to explore imposing Syria no-fly zone
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1. ha ha...no oil, no freedom !
(08.11.12)
We are the "Friends of Freedom". If you have Oil we form a grand "coalition of the willing" instantly [even without UN mandate] like Iraq and invade with great glee and enthusiasm to bring you "democracy & freedom" on a platter. Freedom in Libya, freedom in Iraq, freedom, freedom everywhere, but....errr... no oil ?...sorry, you can shove it...period..ha ha !
2. more American hot air
Amos J   (08.11.12)
More American hot air...let Syria be a lesson to all those who believe that America will prevent Iran from becoming nuclear. America won't intervene unless there is some personal benefit.
3. Syria Disaster
(08.11.12)
The intervention of Us and Turkey will bring only CHAOS as happened in other Arab States ! the Arabs knew only Dictatorship ! Sometimes it is better to have a Dictator instead of Democracy that will never work with Arabs ! It is a pity for the people who is suffering because of the Illusion of US to bring Democracy everywhere !
4. My private plan for best scenario.
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (08.11.12)
A druze state in the south, a kurdish state in the north, an alawite state in northwest, east Syria partitioned for Jordan, Saudia and Iraq.
5. U$A TERRORI$T$ WORLDWIDE!
PHARAOH   (08.11.12)
AND ISRAEL TOO FOLLOW THEIR SHIT!
6. GOLAN stays in jewish hands.
Douglass Goodw ,   Baltimore   (08.11.12)
Imagine we would have been so stupid to give them the Golan. -- Look what is happening in Sinai.
7. Tough choice, support MB or Turkish imperialist.
Iranian Hunter   (08.11.12)
Damned if we do, damned if we don't. If you help Turkey gets Syria, you're creating another Ottoman Empire. If you help MB, you'll be creating a "semi" caliphate ruled by sunnis MB. If you help Assad, you'll be creating a "semi" caliphate ruled by followers of Hussein and Ali. ...... can't we just nuked these three ? .... we can't ? ok then, in my opinion, we should help Turkey create a sunni caliphate. SInce that is what we are doing now, Shia caliphate is WAY more radical and dangerous.
8. Americans Stupidity.
Andi Prama ,   ST, Indonesia   (08.11.12)
Tweet from @AndiPrama ------------------------ @AndiPrama: RT @AndiPrama: In the 1990's Pathfinder and now Curiosity, 'analyze' in Mars with the same binoculars? Obama, you are out of your mind!
9. World War 3 Right before the US Prez Election
Cristobal ,   Dallas, Texas USA   (08.11.12)
Get your popcorn here. The Movie will begin just before midnight, Colorado Time.
10. US/Turkey helping Syria
Kemalist   (08.11.12)
While attempting to help Syria they should also devise a strategy that would end the bloodshed of Turkish soldiers on an almost daily basis. That does not seem to be on Erdogans agenda nor Clintons. It is something they occasionally profess but the Turkish public have yet to see this in practice. IMO Turkey is a so-called NATO country. She is almost losing a soldier per day and has had civilian deaths and casualties for years due to PKK terrorism. So in reality NATO serves no justice nor purpose for Turkey. One sometimes wonders why Turkey should continue to be part of such an entity if she is unable to see the benefits? And Syria was never an ally of Turkey but rather one of many countries who are steadfast to bring Turkey to her knees by supporting and subsidizing the PKK Thugs for years. Even now when anarchy is upon them (Syrian Government) they are smuggling Kurdish Terrorists into Turkey from Syria and portraying them to be part of the Syrian refugees. The Turkish/Anatolian public really do need to wake up from the trance inflicted on them by their government because this time round there will not be another Ataturk to lead the way to salvation, and it will be a tableau far alarming than what we are seeing in Syria today.
11. Kemalist
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (08.11.12)
You already expressed most of my feelings. Unfortunately with the current AKP Turkey has no foreign policy and inside they are preparing to divide the country. It is time to read Ataturk's speech to the youth.
12. the last thing Obama needs right now is a war with Syria
zionist forever   (08.11.12)
We saw it in Libya you get a resolution for a no fly zone but it ends up being extended to provide the rebels with air cover.. The rebels are in the middle of a shoot out with tanks the countries enforcing the NO FLY ZONE go and drop bombs on the tanks. A no fly zone is a prelude to an all out war which is the last thing Obama needs just two months from an election, he doesn't want the newspapers talking about the American role in enforcing a no fly zone when he wants them to talk about the economy. Erdogan has been itching for a war for a long time but he doesn't want to go it alone and so far he hasn't been able to find any coalition partners. Even if Erdogan was to go it alone to begin with at least it would take American firepower to knock out radar & air defenses. If Assad is still here after the election then Obama or Romney will lead an all out attack but nobody wants to get dragged into a Middle East conflict that involved the use of destroying WMDS just two months to an election. Obama might be an idealist but he is still a politician.
13. #8 What relevance does the twit you posted have to this?
Henry from New York ,   USA   (08.11.12)
and what are these silly at signs doing there? RT? I don't Twit, I'm afraid.
14. US SHOULD STAY OUT OF SYRIAN MESS, FOCUS ON IRAN
Rafi ,   US   (08.11.12)
15. Why is it that Hezballah has such freedom of action
Alan ,   SA   (08.11.12)
Why is there a distinction made between Military Wing and Political Part of such a crooked set up? Is it because they hand out warm plates of soup between murdering innocents? Why in contravention of UN Resolutions after Leb War were they allowed to import such massive numbers of Rockets etc under UNIFIL noses? I though Lebanon was intended to be a Homeland for Christians .Not a Shia Terror Empire
16. The Joke-Obama spent his term creating Hell in M E and now
Alan ,   SA   (08.11.12)
wants a nice quiet Election Period so he can win his Second Tem to make more chaos
17. Kemalist
anton ,   Istanbul   (08.11.12)
Thats whats wrong with u guys, always using ataturks name to get attention while in fact all these years so called kemalists were the main reason of turkeys lost years after ataturk. u remember he said your mission is to take turkey to the levels of those modern western countries yet its only happening after akp took the office they are not without fault yet best we have now, what u also forgot to mention is pkk that is killing a soldier perday is result of sitrict military controlled goverments fault of not giving kurds their rights, being half kurdish i have heard stories from my grandparents regarding their treatments , pkk is aproblem so called kemalist created and please spare me the rhetoric of being real kemalist i am sick of hearing that bs forgive my language ;) i know ataturks vision and admire him on great level but it seems to me that there are several type of kemalists in turkey if you know what i mean regards...
18. WATCH AND LEARN
DA URBAN POET ,   SAFED OPERA HOUSE   (08.11.12)
A masterclass in how to turn an already awful and terrible situation and make it ten times worse ,care of Hillary Clinton and her fellow dummies.
19. #17 Anton
Kemalist   (08.11.12)
You don't know me so to pass judgement on whether or not I am a true Kemalist is quite ignorant on your part. I agree that Turkey has seen shabby governments in the past too. However, there is a huge difference between being a Kemalist and wearing the mask of Kemalism just like there is a significant difference between being genuinely religious and wearing the mask of religion to pacify members of the public :-) Nobody can give a justification for terrorism. We all have a story to tell in this life. I understand that past mismanagement of resources and the problem of social exclusion in Turkey (which btw is not exclusive to Kurds but which has affected and continues to affect Turks too) may have paved the way for this deviant sub-culture known as the PKK. However, these possible contributing factors still do not justify its existence and its sickening behavior towards innocent people and Turkish servicemen defending Turkey. It also has a terrible effect on Kurds who are Pro-Turkey and against the PKK. Don't you ever think that this can and may eventually lead to huge hostility between Kurds and Turks in Turkey? and what usually happens in Turkey when there is severe civil unrest? Do you think that one or two generals who have been shoved into jail makeup the Turkish army? Is that what you think? Please Anton wake up and begin to see AKP for what they really are. Like David Israel said they are preparing to divide!
20. #10 Kemalist
Obsessive ,   Turkey   (08.11.12)
I agree with you. Junta of the Military Coup had killed many Marxist Turks. Girls & Boys have done nothing even after. I think mixing passionate idealists with terrorists are wrong. Global easy monetary policies, low interest rates are not real economic indicators. 15 years ago troubleless Greek friends were screaming for the loss of Greek industry and production.(had not recommended our membership) I afraid, Turkey's huge debt/population ratio and current deficit will be ended with big crisis. After pkk cave-withdrawal for the long winter what will Assad do? I think this winter will be interesting.
21. Our White House boob forgets "rebels" are anti-US islamists
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (08.12.12)
Obama, having screwed up every other corner of the Mideast with amateurism and incompetance, after his "Cairo speech" grandstanding, now wants to install an extremist anti-US islamist sharia state in Syria - armed with Assads chemical weapons and nerve gas armed missiles - weapons which the Assads at least had sense enough not to try to use, but which Obama's jihadis will fire at Israel as soon as they get the chance. And this is the idiot who claims he has "eyes" in Iran's nuclear program that will tell him the exact second when the mullahs decide to build a nuclear bomb - after which point, of course, attacking the uranium centrufuges would be irrelevant. America needs this jackass gone from the Presidency, before he does any more damage. Our "allies" in Afgan and Iraq regularly murder US troops, as do our "Arab-Americans" at hoime. No more of this! Election in 90 days.
22. Anton - About Kemalism and Ataturk
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (08.12.12)
Unfortunately I have lived through the years since 150ies hearing some people misrepresenting what Kemalism really is and not from those who claim to be Kemalists but from those who opposed to the modernist reforms that Ataturk implemented. It started before I was born in Menemen 1927. They opposed the alphabet reform, the hat reform and many other reforms. They were even against universities. They wanted an Islamic education system. They defamed Kemalism by alleging that it is militarism or nowadays Kemalists are falsely accused to be supporters of coups while in reality many Kemalists were jailed and even executed in the past by the military. (Example Deniz Gezmis) Not one ultra Islamist has ever been executed by the military in Turkey. This why AKP is not touching Kenan Evren (He brought down leftist Ecevit and brought soft Islamist Turgut Ozal) The same people who are falsely defaming Kemalism and Ataturk are putting many videos in youtube and spreading many lies in the Internet social media. You can see them for yourself. When you see you may notice that most are originating from the same Cemaat as they are referred. Their leader is a Kurt and the follower of Said I Nursi. Erdogan is his follower. Anton; they are using people like you by Takkiye and slowly using soft power changing the values and modern culture of Turkey. This is why they want minimum 3 children per family better 5 because they know that modern people will not follow this and soon Islamist will outnumber overwhelmingly the modernists. This is why it is tome to read Atatuk's Genclige Hitabesi. He knew this would come. If you really are a modern Turk stand up for your life style before it is totally lost.
23. ass-ad IS using WMD gas-air bombs, 20,000 dead and NOW obumm
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.12.12)
is taking the ultra bold step of THINKING of a no fly zone. Maybe when 20,000 more are dead he will think harder.
24. Not good for Israel
Yael Schlichting ,   currently Munich   (08.12.12)
Such a No-Fly-Zone means, that by accident, Obama would manage to cut of Israel from routes to Iran. Just by the way, a No-Fly-Zone would mean, that American and Turkish jets could/would attack Israeli jets crossing Syrian airspace on their way to Iran. Obama is about to encircle Israel instead of Iran.
25. The US can expect the usual kick in the face in return
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (08.12.12)
26. America working for the Wahabis?
AMERICAN HINDU ,   USA   (08.12.12)
As a patriotic American, I do not understand why we are getting involved in what is essentially a Shia-Sunni fight. Why are our leaders doing the dirty work for the Wahabis? Let the Saudis, Kuwaitis, Qataris and Turks manage this one!
27. The Reason
BallromBlitz ,   Canada   (08.12.12)
The real reason Kofi Annan left his post.. I told you so.,,
28. so who is play by fire must be burn too.
sam ,   cairo   (08.12.12)
Turkey turned against the Syrian regime and this is the interest for of Turkey in the region to order be leading the region to satisfy their masters in the West, but this ambition will cost her a lot because the people of TurkishConsists of spectra of different religious also ,so who is play by fire must be burn too.
29. #26 great question
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (08.12.12)
You ask a great question. Why has Obama been such a terrible president for US interests. The only answer I can think of is that Obama works for them.
30. #26 the same reason why India works with Pakistan
Iranian Hunter   (08.12.12)
yeah India.. Land of the hindu.... Worrking together with fanatic pakistan and helping iran buys oill. If that is not clear. . .. The answer are fear money oil.
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