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Gay couple turns to rabbis for divorce
Yoram Yarkoni
Published: 07.09.12, 14:02
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1. Annulment if anything
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (09.07.12)
As Jewish Law does not recognise same sex marriage, one can annul it as invalid ab initio.
2. SEPARATE RELIGION FROM STATE
nadav ,   tlv   (09.07.12)
it's teh 21st century, there is no need for superstition and medieval laws to govern a modern, free market democracy!
3. Prof. Uzi Even should convert to islam
2Mad ,   גולה בצרפת   (09.07.12)
thus forcing the High Court of Justice to acknowledge his right to marry more then one wi.. whatever..
4. The prof. Should just marry the other guy
Shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (09.07.12)
And they can all live as one big happy family to pick and choose as they please.
5. No need for divorce
Dan ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.07.12)
It's not a complicated case. According to halacha, a Jewish man who marries a gentile woman is not married (kiddushin) in the eyes of God (since He forbids it) so no divorce is needed. The same reasoning applies here. There is no "marriage" (kiddushin) between two men in the eyes of God (since He forbids that relationship, too) so need of a divorce. Moral: If you get "married" in Canada, be prepared to "divorce" in Canada.
6. Is this a joke? Two men cant be married & dont need divorce.
Jake ,   USA   (09.07.12)
7. These two clowns ought to be living in the gay village
Al   (09.08.12)
here in Montreal where they can 'marry' anyone of them for 30 min or less. No need for a divorce. A couple of years ago, a young Israeli guy was found dead in a suitcase that was put out for trash out on the sidewalk. He was found in the gay village. His gay lover/killer from Ottawa got a short prison term. Yes here in MOntreal there is no need for divorce in the gay village.
8. israel has too many politicians and too few statesmen
shloime ,   toronto, canada   (09.08.12)
inevitably, some marriages will end in divorce, so same-sex marriage will eventually require same-sex divorce. the fact that israel is dealing with this in such an ad hoc fashion shows how little talent and effort members of the Knesset have put into considering the consequences of a very important issue. for the interior ministry to be caught off guard on something as basic as this, shows a disturbing lack of legislative talent, or wisdom.
9. Gay marriage,as worthy as ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.08.12)
the paper on which the oral contract is written.
10. They got married in Canada - divorce there.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (09.08.12)
They went around our system in the first place, go around it again. It's Canada's problem, not ours.
11. #10 let's give you a redux of relevant part of article:
(09.08.12)
"Even and Kama cannot divorce in Canada either, as Canadian citizens are the only ones allowed to file for divorce there." My dear so often you skip whole sections of articles perhaps a bit of remedial reading is in order! ;-) Shevua Tov!
12. Just Do It!
Moshico ,   Jerusalem   (09.08.12)
Things could be worse, just give them a get and let them get on with their lives and we don't have to read more about it. People should be allowed to live in happiness.
13. Two more agunot
Al   (09.09.12)
14. #2, why? Not every nation is bound by the U.S. Constitution.
Jake ,   USA   (09.09.12)
15. Time to abolish the Rabinuute
Haim ,   TA   (09.09.12)
This case clearly demonstrates that the rabbinute is an outdated institution that has no significance in the year 2012. Israel cliams to be a democracy yet it clearly descriminates agains same sex couples.
16. #9 Very True. And most of the time those kinds of paper end
up at the bottom of ,   a bird cage!!!!!!!!!   (09.09.12)
17. 9 , this in name of a "childish superstition"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.09.12)
as the Great Albert Einstein said about religion .
18. 13 Al , HILARIOUS !
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.09.12)
19. 17 Charles . Not relevant !
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.09.12)
Why quote A. Einstein,since he is less an expert in religious matters, than you?
20. Ora AE not relevant ? why did YOU quote him then ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.10.12)
When his citations don't fit your ideas he's not relevant for you , but when you distord his ideas [ not his citations ] you misuses him , and then he's relevant for you . Golda Meir did'nt talk about criminals . Money spend in yeshivot is mostly a WASTE , those "students" don't contribute later to the State . Money spend for universities brings a good return , as most of the students , who served in the IDF , will later contribute to the State . I don't need a special day to "repent" , when i do something wrong , i try to correct it immediately . And about praying , you know my ideas . I don't need a special day either to wish all the best to people i know , you included . So my best wishes for the many coming years to you .
21. 20 Charles, please clarify...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.10.12)
Where in your opinion did i DISTORT and MISUSE A.Einstein s ideas ? [i do not intend to tolerate more insults like that] i use quotes of famous people to confirm my ideas.Nothing unethical about that. But quoting somebody about a subject about which ,he has no clue is irrelevant. i did not say that you distort [which is dishonest] , that would be an insult. Thank you for your kind wishes.
22. Gay divorce
edouard ,   Canada   (09.10.12)
Their is no diference between a gay couple and a heterosexual couple It's 2 people that love each other that decided to live together And sometime like with many other couples it does not work...... Who are we to decide what people can do or can not do
23. ora , when you said that he believed in god
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.10.12)
Where did you find such a quote of him ? ? i never saw such a saying of him . It were YOIUR ideas , and you distorted his ideas . But then you used him , he was relevant for you . Einstein had no clue about religion ? This is just , for you , because he said , with reason , that religions are "childish superstitions" . I'm gratefull to you because if found this quote of him while searching where he could have said that he believed in god as you , wrongly , claimed . And what about Golda Meir ? where did she talk about criminals ? If you feel insulted , that's your problem , not mine , sorry . But if i distort something , and you say it , i will not feel insulted , but i'll correct my error or distortion . Remember : elephant skin when writing tb's .
24. Ora TRY # 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.10.12)
When you said that he believed in god Where did you find such a quote of him ? ? i never saw such a saying of him . It were YOIUR ideas , and you distorted his ideas . But then you used him , he was relevant for you . Einstein had no clue about religion ? This is just , for you , because he said , with reason , that religions are "childish superstitions" . I'm gratefull to you because if found this quote of him while searching where he could have said that he believed in god as you , wrongly , claimed . And what about Golda Meir ? where did she talk about criminals ? If you feel insulted , that's your problem , not mine , sorry . But if i distort something , and you say it , i will not feel insulted , but i'll correct my error or distortion . Remember : elephant skin when writing tb's
25. 22 Those who believe in G-D...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.10.12)
and His Tora,believe that G-D forbids gay lifestyle.
26. 23 Charles,The Creator of the world...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (09.11.12)
and G-D are ONE and the same. And Einstein believed that the world was created by the Creator. Distorting something is dishonest ,and i am not aware i did that. I enjoy discussing with you,Charles,if you are kind... and i will try to be that too.
27. Ora .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.11.12)
You believe in G-d , and for you there is only ONE , this G-d you pray to and who shortly will "decide who will live , who will die" , so a G-d who rewards and punishes . Einstein in HIS OWN words said that he does NOT believe in a G-d who rewards or punishes . So telling that Einstein believed in G-d is contrary to the truth , an error or "wishfull thinking" of you . I told you this already more than once , but you continued to write that Einstein believed in G-d . Errare Humanum est , perseverare diabolicum .
28. Reply to 15 Discrimination against same sex couples
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (09.16.12)
Israel is hardly the only country that does not recognise same sex marriage. Most democracies do not. They may have civil partnerships or civil unions in some countries but not same sex marriage. Jewish Law does not recognise same sex marriage and therefore they would not require a Jewish divorce.
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