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What about brotherhood? France and Mohammed
Dr. Yaron Friedman
Published: 23.09.12, 20:25
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1. Confused mind
Zyx ,   US   (09.23.12)
Brotherhood is about people. It is immoral and strictly forbidden by French laws to attack people. This is the reason why in France holocaust deniers go to jail. Denying the holocaust is an insult the the holocaust victims. Debating about a religion is debating about ideas. Everybody should have the right if they want to consider that islam is backward and violent, exactly as nazism is barbaric. The islamic and Jewish extremists want us to think that their beliefs are sacred beyond any other beliefs. They are the ones who do not respect democracy.
2. The problem is values not history
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (09.23.12)
Once again Friedman has come out with a load of academic hogwash. Looking back to the 18th and even 8th century c.e. for an historical explanation for why some Mohammedans today hate 'France' and act like violent lunatics,strains credulity. The Islamic hostility is towards western,specifically here French, VALUES.Liberty, equality and brotherhood simply don't sit easily with Islamists who place Islamic rights before human rights. In my opinion,we in the west have values that are far,far,far superior to Islamic values and we shouldn't be intimidated out of defending and upholding them. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
3. I don't feel constantly insulted and I don't riot
Ehud   (09.23.12)
The author needs to read a bit more about the French Revolution before making such unqualified statements like: if you make jokes, there is no brotherhood. European enlightenment led to emancipation from the Catholic Curch and all other religions too. We have the right to laugh about Jesus, Moses, and Muhammad w/o being threatened. If you don't get this, I don't wish to be your brother. If you are not able to laugh about yourself and see yourself as the eternal victim of the West (the one you tried to conquer from the outside and now from within), there is a problem. Yes, there is prejudice in Europe, but no one has the right to riot because of cartoons. I am not bound by your faith. If you feel insulted - cope with it.
4. france democracy
carole ,   paris france   (09.23.12)
you don't understand anything about france!!! every day more and more women with the head covered in the streets;every day problems between the professors and the muslem children at school, problems between young arabic men and the police and in the same time every body shut their mouth , not to make them angry and once it must go out
5. education reforms. enlightenment.
some humility   (09.24.12)
Western Europe, hosting Muslim immigrants must embark on an education of the Muslim people to bring them into the Enlightenment. The Muslim clerics financed by Saudi Arabia, Bosnia, Turkey must leave, and replaced by enlightened local intellectually advanced clerics.
6. Do Muslims See Us as Brothers?
Marcohoe ,   San Francisco, USA   (09.24.12)
Do Muslims have any feelings of brotherhood towards other people? No - they consider themselves superior to us, to them we are a second-rate kind of people. Do Muslims ever hesitate to state bluntly that Jesus was not a god, He did not die on the cross, and the trinity is nonsense. That's more insulting to Christians, than what that silly little movie says.
7. French law
veronique ,   Israel/France   (09.24.12)
French law provides freedom of the press, and non-religious schools meaning that you cannot wear any external sign of religion in schools, no cross, no David star, no Islamic scarf. Thousands of people have suffered and died to get to these basic human rights. We cannot let them go because we are afraid that a bunch of extremists are going to burn and destroy. If you do not fight back for your rights they will walk all over you!
8. We saw French "brotherhood" when they shipped Jews to camps
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (09.24.12)
There is nothing more to be said. They are utterly unreliable as friends and allies. Sold Dassault jets to Israel when nobody else would buy their shoddy crap. Cut off Israel and then sold Mirages to the Arabs, to curry favor with the Arabs, still mad at them for Algeria. Built Saddam Hussein a far bigger reactor than Dimona for making nuclear weapons to be used against Israel [Israel destroyed it in 1982]. They have the world's largest collection of colonial possessions, all of it thousands of miles from France, which they crudely exploit, yet criticize Israel for less than 1% as much territory , right on israels borders, a few miles from its cities - which is Jewish in the 1st place and would serve as rocket launching pads if given to the Arabs. And at the end of the day - everybody knows the French surrender and run rather than honor their promises. French commitment to democracy, freedom and brotherhood - what complete rot!
9. Provoke Islam?
ACortez ,   Anaheim, CA, USA   (09.24.12)
All men/women are equal in their right to say whatever they want. Religious people don't get to decide what people can and can't say. Islam should learn some respect and tolerance for others before its followers bring a catostrophic war upon themselves.
10. Charles de Gaule the grave digger of France
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (09.24.12)
He is responsible for the present situation. First he had to resist for arabs in Algeria and preserve an european sector for 2 million french inhabitants. Secondly not a single arab had to be let to enter to France. Now the end of France is on the horisont. At least the Etoile place must be renamed, my suggestion to Place d' Napoleon Bonaparte.
11. Sad proof Israel existence during WW2 wouldn't have helped
ab   (09.24.12)
the Jews. Friedman&Co would have yapped about "Brotherhood of Men" and "Need to help suffering German civilians" bringing forward Beethoven and Gauss and being silent on Himmler and Hitler
12. beragil
beragil   (09.24.12)
dear yaron, on the pactical bases,your advice seem's logical. but it time for a wake up call of the west. one of the ways to do it is by exposing the muslems(the "arab tipe") as they are,naked!!! ther shuld not be any illusion's about the future relation between the mid east style islum and the west!!! for this reason i am all for what's happens now,it make's evrything clear.
13. typical intellectual gobbly gook. meaningless tripe.
ralph   (09.24.12)
14. Cultural APPEASEMENT encourages MORE Islamist TERROR.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (09.24.12)
15. The French Brought Civilization to Barbarians
Avi ,   USA   (09.24.12)
Stop drinking the Muslim kool-aid. Befor the french they were ruled by the Turks who were even worse to them. they were always ruled by someone even before Islam. Muslim grievances are excuses from a society and religion that is very racist towards non-muslims. We have a big problem with Islam and no one seems to want to address it.
16. France democracy
Floriane ,   Israel   (09.24.12)
France deserves the mess it is in. They looked the other way when immigrants came until now. Now they wake up and it is too late! The immigrants now rule the Country( they pray in the streets of Paris)! It is their way of waking up to tell the Muslims they CAN finally open their mouth and critize them. However the timing could be dangerous for Jews. They already bombed a Jewish store in the Paris suburb.
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