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Explosion at Malmo Jewish community building
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Published: 28.09.12, 09:35
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1. malmo
dr mostrel daniel ,   paris france   (09.28.12)
the mayor of the city of malmoe said the jews are guilty of the attacks against themselves because they are not condemning israel ; poor sweden
2. the unthinkable truth
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (09.28.12)
For the nations of the world, it is always easier to blame everything on the Jews than to take responsibility for their own faults and failures. When the Arabs riot, they blame us Jews for a movie mocking them. But is it fair for them to mock the Christians and treat them in such a despicable manner in Arab countries? Blame us Jews, it is easier than actually thinking for thinking takes moral guts and they lack just that.
3. Swedish war crimes against the Jewish people and Israel
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (09.28.12)
1) During WW2, the Swedish king sent a letter to none other than Adolf Hitler in Berlin, wishing him success in his military campaigns. 2) Sweden denied the entry of 10 German Jews I believe because of overwhelming Jew hatred in Sweden during WW2. We are not speaking of thousands of Jews. We are speaking of 10 Jewish individuals. They were not allowed to seek refuge in Sweden. They were later on killed by the Nazis. 3) "The white buses" of Sweden were used predominantly to save non Jews, and not Jews as Sweden falsely claims today, in a Swedish attempt to save Sweden's useless reputation. The world knows that Sweden hates the Jewish people. 4) The letter "J" (for "Jude") in Jewish passports during WW2 was a Swedish "invention". It was not "invented" by Germany. 5) The sign "Arbeit Macht Frei" was manufactured in Sweden. 6) Zyklon B gas was produced in Sweden. 7) Much of the iron ore used for manufacturing the weaponry of the German Wehrmacht came from Sweden. 8) When Germany occupied Norway, Sweden allowed Germany to transport German troops on Swedish rails to Norway. 9) Sweden bought Jewish tooth gold from massacred Jews during WW2. 10) Sweden has supported PLO and Arafat for many years against Israel. 11) Many of the Flotilla Terrorists ("activists") are Swedes. 12) Sweden continues to finance Hamas and Fatah with humanitarian aid as a pretext. But the weapons used against Israelis are partially financed by the Swedish government and Swedish tax money.
4. Ending WESTERN ANTI-ISRAEL BIAS would decrease antisemitism.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (09.28.12)
5. swedish jews
meyer ,   bat ayin   (09.28.12)
now seems to be the time to encourage yudin to come home. the aliya desk should be very active..
6. Jewish community center bombed in Malmo
mimi jacques ,   oob,usa   (09.28.12)
The explosion happened between 00:30-00:45 a.m. at the Jewish Community Center on Kamrergatan in Malmo,Sweden. Eyewitnesses provided one car;s plate id (2 cars)-later police arrested two youths riding in the id'ed car (born in 1993 and 1994)-18 yrs old.Malmo used to be the thieves/smugglers city-now it is the hotbed place for antiSemitism. The Jewish Community Center does not have extra monies for real security. Skanska Dagbladet/dn.se/svd.se will have updates.
7. The majority of swedes do not hate jews
Rachel   (09.28.12)
It is a certain percentage of the Moslem refugees/ immigrants living in Sweden that do hate crimes against Jews. The spritual leaders that are spreading this hate against Jews and glorify how great it is to attack Jews and Jewish property to Moslem youngsters and some adults should be thrown out of Sweden back to the countries they came from. Regarding mr Reepalu, the mayor, he has Baltic roots and his own Jew hate is mirroring what he says. He is not representing the swedes living in Malmö
8. Alexander , you're a hatefull ignorant
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.29.12)
you "forgot" the 7200 Danish Jews who were rescued by the Danish fishermen , and brougth to SWEDEN .
9. To nr 8 - Charles learn history instead of..
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (09.29.12)
...deliverating hateful insults against me. Where exactly have I expressed "hatred"? I'm refering to facts. I didn't forget anything. Danish Jews were saved to Sweden - true. But that does not mean there is no anti-Semitism in Sweden. During WW2 Sweden was a very anti-Semitic country and still is today. Maybe parts of the Swedish conduct during the war was acceptable but most of Sweden's conduct was not. I've given a truthful historical account of what took place in Sweden during WW2 and what Sweden has done to Israel and the Jewish people after WW2. No amount of denial and whitewash will change that. Regarding your defense of the good Poles during WW2: Yes I agree that the good Poles that risked their lives when saving Jews should be honored. But there is one problem Charles: the good Poles of WW2 and the good Poles of today constitute a small minority and the racist anti-Semitic attitudes of Poland are representative for the Polish people and the Polish culture, thus explaining my animosity to Poland. I can respect Denmark and Bulgaria for example since they did save most of the Jews in these countries, but I have zero respect for Poland. The argument that the Jews were so numerous in Poland that the Poles could not hide them from the Germans does not hold water since small Jewish populations in Denmark, Bulgaria and Italy were detected anyway despite their small numbers. The great difference between say Denmark and Sweden during WW2 is that Denmark showed moral clarity and integrity during the war while Sweden showed none or very little. I honestly don't know what's your problem Charles of attacking me all the time at Ynet but its increasingly irritating to be insulted time after time by you. After all, I've simply spoken the truth on Ynet and I haven't done or said anything to you. And regarding Nobel Prize Winners: many scientists are religious by the way. Ynet censored my previous talkback at another thread so I need to finish our discussion here.
10. To nr 8
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (09.29.12)
And you Charles "forgot" about the dark aspects of Sweden during WW2which I've listed in talkback nr 3. These are historical facts. Saving Danish Jews to Sweden doesn't change the facts that I've listed in talkback nr 3. Because the crimes that Sweden has committed against Jews did happen. Which of us is really hateful? It is you who never misses a chance to lambast me at Ynet despite the fact that I haven't done or said anything to you. When have I ever insulted you Charles? Then you express hatred for religion and for your religious countrymen in Israel but you never miss an opportunity to whitewash and glorify certain European countries with an anti-Semitic majority population. It seems that crimes against humanity doesn't bother you at all, alternatively bothers you so much that it's painful for you to even hear about them so you choose to deny them and whitewash history to make you "feel better". History is history Charles - you need to have a truthful discussion of what took place in the past without resorting to insults. Where exactly in my talkback did I express hatred? And where exactly did I express ignorance? These are historical facts. You can read about them in historical literature or just Google them Charles. Despite your inflammatory and hateful and even hostile language to me, I still wish you Shabat Shalom.
11. Alexander , you ONLY showed the negative points
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.29.12)
but "forgot" the positive one , a big one . This was IGNORING a great fact , or not mention it , only to "enforce" your hatred towards the Swedes . It's not being objective when you say only one side of the coin . Regarding Bulgaria , Jews of territories occupied by Bulgaria were send to their death during WWII . Ignorance or "forgeting" because it fits you ideas . Poland was the only country , with Holland in a lesser way , where hiding a Jew was punished by death sentence for the whole family . You have to know that to save someone many more people were involved . So it are not only the 6000+ Righteous who were "good" people , many more participated in those rescue actions , often anonymous ones . When i was arrested , the priest who ran the home for boys was also detained . Liberated the next day . It was in Western Europe . In Poland he would have been murdered . Hatred for the way ultra religious try to impose their way of life on all of us . You express hatred towards the Poles , all of them , the Swedes , all of them . I know history , Alexander , not only from books , but out of personnal experiences during WWII . It's also the first time i think that you react on one of my tb's . Try to be a little more objective , and look at the good sides too .
12. Alexander , where did i say
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.29.12)
that the Poles could not hide Jews because of their numbers ? I only said that it was very dangerous to hide Jews . In Italy they were not found , at least most of them could hide without problems . In Bulgaria the Jews were arrested , their belongings seized , but liberated after a certain time . There was a political struggle , but at the end they were not deported . In Denmark it was the population that intervened , they saved most of the Jews . A part of todays Poles are antisemites , yes . But Poland is also a serious Israel supporter . I knew two brothers , both were in Switserland during WWII , in the same conditions of course . One hated the Swiss , the second was gratefull for having saved them . Maybe that's the difference between You and me .
13. To nr 11 and 12
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.01.12)
While a few thousand Danish Jews were saved by Sweden during WW2, the Swedish state in essence 1) aided the Germans in killing 6 million Jews. Sweden produced Zyklon B gas with which Germany massacred Jews in concentration camps. Sweden came up with the notion of putting the letter "J" in Jewish passports. Sweden accordingly aided Germany in locating and finding Jews and massacring Jews in concentration camps, albeit Sweden itself very seldomly committed the atrocities and instead used Germany as a proxy. 2) What also can be said is that Sweden provided the German wehrmacht with ball bearings and iron ore - both essential for producing machines of war. Germany depended to a large extent on Swedish ball bearings and iron ore to produce German military weapons. So in essence Charles, while Sweden saved a few thousand Jews, Sweden is indirectly responsible for the massmurder of 6million Jews and for prolonging the extent of time in which WW2 took place by aiding the German wehrmacht. What is objective is to speak the truth and to make a clear cut difference between what is truly representative and what is truly the exception. Swedish and Polish hostility to Jews and Israel is normative whereas friendly or positive feelings for Jews and Israel are rare. Opinion polls in both Sweden and Poland reveal that. While you accuse me of hating "all" Swedes (your idea - not mine), you seem to hate all Haredim and you give legitimacy to your hatred. That makes you a hypocrite. After all: the Haredim are our countrymen - they haven't killed the Jewish people. On the contrary, they produce babies so that the Jewish people's presence in Israel is strong, while Swedes indirectly aided the Germans in killing Jews, and Poles - a majority of them, hold anti-Semitic views.
14. Alexander
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.01.12)
I know history . i know what the swedes did , i know what some Polish did . But this is not a reason to hate all of them . You are'nt telling the truth about me , i only hate those charedim who try to impose their lifestyle on us . This while in your posts you show hatred for ALL the Poles and all the Swedes . I'll tell you something you probably don't know . During WWII Bell telephone in Antwerp [ Belgium] was ordered to produce some electronic device for the german army . They needed a radio valve of british origin . No problem , they received them , via "neutral" sweden of course . The britons also responsible ! Was told to me in 1957 by a technician who worked there . Regarding charedim , they are "our" countrymen , but many , if not most , don't contribute very much to Israel . Many , if not most , are a burden to the Israeli society . If we have to rely on them to be strong , we will not have a country in some years anymore . As i wrote somewhere , some of them are beginning to see that they need to change , and begin to study secular material too , this to become a 100 % part of the Israeli society . Why can they work , and study , abroad , and not here ? A majority of Swedes and Poles hold antisemitic views ? can you give stats about it ? What is objective is to give the two sides of the coin , not only one . To "forget" one of them is not being objective at all , the contrary . End of discussion for me .
15. to 13 . From Yad Vashem
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.01.12)
At the beginning of the war, Sweden's neutrality swayed in Germany’s favor. After the Germans invaded Norway and Denmark in April 1940, Sweden was surrounded by Germans. Furthermore, the British sea blockade cut Sweden off from the rest of the world. As a result, the Swedish government was forced to depend on Germany for necessary materials, while they gave Germany iron ore, a vital war industry product.
16. To nr 15
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.01.12)
What we can say Charles about Sweden is that when the external environment suggested that Germany would win the war, the Swedish state supported Germany, and when it was very clear to the Swedish government that Nazi Germany would lose the war, Sweden became all of the sudden "pro-American" and "pro-British" and "pro-West". It essentially means that the Swedes displayed a despicable and cowardly behavior during WW2 where they essentially supported "the strong side of the conflict" out of cowardice and fear for their own safety. But Denmark, Norway, Bulgaria and other European countries showed moral clarity in their stance against Nazism, anti-Semitism and the Hitler regime and against the then existing German culture and nationalism.
17. To nr 14
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.01.12)
"I know history ." Then you shouldn't dispute historical facts. If you want to be objective that is. Objectivity to me is about factuality - to see things the way they are. "i know what the swedes did" So what's the problem then? "i know what some Polish did." Some of them? What about the great majority of them? A minority of the Poles actually killed Jews during WW2, but a majority of the Poles hated the Jews and still hate the Jews. The reason I know these things is because I happen to understand Polish and much of my family comes from Poland - so I know the Poles very well. "But this is not a reason to hate all of them." You are repeating your own fantasy again. I never said I hate all of them. If I did, please point it out. Pointing out facts is not the same as "hating all of them". Remember: that's your idea - not mine. Data on Polish and Swedish anti-Semitism? Here is some info on Swedish anti-Semitism: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/report_sweden.html http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=222097 http://swedenisrael.blogspot.se/ In Europe in general, including Poland and Sweden: http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/adl_anti-semitism_presentation_february_2012.pdf http://www.jugendpolitikineuropa.de/downloads/4-20-1949/eustudieantisem.pdf http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/anti-semitism-in-europe-on-the-rise-adl-poll-finds-1.419801 Regarding the Haredim in Israel: the numbers of Haredim taking part in the work force and contributing to our country is going up although there is still a long way to go.
18. alexander
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.01.12)
I don't understand polish , but understand when someone says : for me this is the end of discussion . This being said , you again showed your hatred by calling the swedes cowards , without considering their situation . You showed your ignorance by "forgetting" the thousands of Jews of territories occupied by Bulgaria who were send , by Bulgaria , to their dead . But Bulgarian Jews were , at least most of them , not deported . Oh . and i almost forgot , Zyklon B was produced in Germany . Learn history .
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