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Experts: Iranian military stuck in the past
Shiri Hadar
Published: 04.10.12, 10:38
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1. Now is the time
Tim ,   Brighton   (10.04.12)
To keep the temperature down This is not Warmongering Ping Pong between Iran and the Rest of the World.. But lets be crystal clear Are you listening Khamenei Are you listening people of Iran? Israel doesnt WANT war The Region doesnt WANT war The Global Community doesnt WANT war The Iranian people dont WANT war But wed be mad not to be fully prepared should your Regime think otherwise develop a nuclear weapon and pursue hegemony in the Region
2. Iran needs a costume change
big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.04.12)
as well as a regime change. Criminals always hide their faces.
3. VERY GOOD UPDATE INDEED
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (10.04.12)
All back to their own work................no need to get excited anymore.
4. it doesn't matter
zionist forever   (10.04.12)
Other than the Saudi's who is going to attack Iran by land or get into an ariel battle with Iran? As long as the arabs are allowed to keep lining the pockets of the royal family and Iran tries to be their friend then they won't go to war. Israel is Irans ideological enemy and for that they don't need tanks & jets because they have no land border which is why they are investing so heavily in their missile program. Missiles with sufficient range can do more damage to Israel than any ground or air war could and if they can develop ICBMS with nuclear warheads America is going to be shaking in its boots because they will be in range of an Iranian nuke and may find their priorities in the region must change. Hezbollah are the ground troops, not as well equipped as they could be to win a war alone but enough to give Israel a bloody nose and the missiles are its main weapon and if they get them then nukes will be their rule the region weapon.
5. Blind, outdated analysis
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (10.04.12)
I see this all the time, analysts fighting the last war instead of the current war. This is especially strange given that Israel has a clear cut example of two "primitive" countries that have severely defeated the USA which is functionally similar to Israel. Iran has 25 MILLION combat capable humans that can easily destroy all the tanks that are sent into their land and kill all the people that come with the tanks. Sure Iran will lose a lot, but the invader will lose everything. The same goes for aircraft. If all Iran wants to do is defend itself, then there is no need for aircraft when they can make thousands of inexpensive, accurate missiles that will destroy all the invading aircraft. Applying Israeli thinking to an Iranian solution will yield a false conclusion. If Israel attacks, Israelis are going to be shocked at just how deadly Iran is.
6. Dont let these so called experts fool you
Melvin ,   Orange county, USA   (10.04.12)
Remember what happened with the hizballah during the 33 day war! These good for nothing experts were saying they can be crushed once and for all! "Based on its conduct in the past decade, Iran is signaling that it has no interest in a war on its own soil," she says. What signal lady! They are saying it out loud ! If you follow their statements as your job requires, you will realize only last week one of their Generals said " our defensive posture is to keep threats well away from our borders"! These experts are pathetic. This article shows: 1- Iran's position is defensive. 2-Even if a weapon is outdated it does not mean it is not lethal especially in the right hand .3-The "experts" should focus on more peaceful solutions than encouraging us to go to war based on incorrect and wishful assessments.
7. This Is News? Tell Us Something We Don't Know?
(10.04.12)
NEW?
8. #4
Moshe of Rockville ,   Rockville,MD USA   (10.04.12)
Your concern that missiles can do more damage to the Jewish State than any land war could could be correct. However, other than nuclear warheads,Iran does not have the resources to buy or develop conventional warheads in sufficient number to seriously damage IDF capabilities or civilian infrastructure.And they do not have nuclear warheads! Israel has the nuclear warheads and has the air force to carry such devices to their targets, the subs to carry and launch them , and the long range rockets from ground bases to propel them. Israel will not be the one who will disappear from the pages of history.
9. 2008
mac ,   VADSØ   (10.04.12)
it is not true, after seen Mirkava tanks on fire with Iranian made weapons in 2008 war with libanon, its hard to bellieve what have been claimed in this article. I think this article rather outdated than iranian military. Would Israelis really try their chance one more time on these foolish asumptions?
10. STUCK IN THE PAST
Justin ,   USA   (10.04.12)
So why agin do you need the USA to help.
11. #10. Because
im ,   Brighton   (10.04.12)
Wether its US bases, Bahrein, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Emirates, Kuwait, Iraw, Israel...they have ALL been the subject of this Regimes threats at one time or another And these are the very people who are so desperate to build a nuclear bomb no matter the cost! to the Iranian people What if as a Hezbollah Commander boasted last year they could smuggle in an Iranian Dirty Bomb into the US... We sadly are all in this together to try to resolve this madness peacefully but be prepared if all else faled to act decisively and with full force
12. Are you sure?
Sam ,   Nigeria   (10.04.12)
Its better to over prepare and meet little resistance than under prepare and meet obstacles. Isreal, first seek the FACE OF YOUR GOD. Iran will never be your match.
13. Worse is better, otherwise Obama....
Nora Tel Aviv   (10.04.12)
....will not lift his little finger to solve the iranian problem.
14. Experts?
Luigi Pepperoni ,   Buylgaria   (10.04.12)
Israel needs to be concerned about the mental state of her ',military experts'. If you have second rate weapons what makes moving them somewhere you don't know such a good idea. It's like giving yourself three handicaps instead of one.
15. Iran is surrounded
(10.04.12)
Iran is surrounded on the west, on the east, in the gulf, and soon on the north. This is not by chance. The plan has been brewing for years. The axe will fall no doubt. It's a matter of time. Hope to see Ahmadinajad dangling on a rope for his genocidal crimes against humanity threats.
16. So what?
Albrecht   (10.04.12)
for Israel the next hopelessly weak and underdeveloped "enemy" to be "defeated".
17. Does Isreal want to test this theory?
David ,   Boston, USA   (10.04.12)
As I recall, the vaunted, technolgically advanced Israli military couldn't even defeat Iran's proxy army in Lebanon back in 2006. Can you imagine what it would be like to take on the entire Iranian army?? If Iran was as weak as this article claims, Isreal would have attacked by now.
18. #17. Dont see your point
Tim ,   Brighton   (10.04.12)
Do you? Its not a question of 'testing' a theory This is not a theoretical exercise or computer war games Nobody WANTS a war with Iran or anyone else just for the sake of it as you so flippantlly and rashly suggest We are talking about a rogue state pursuing nuclear weapons whilst at the same time in the case of Israel threatening annihilation of a State NOT TO MENTION an entire people Let me remind of the recent statement from the Regime..that still echoes in my ears...'We have to destroy the Zionists... ONE JEW BY JEW' But at the end of the day Israel indeed the world might not have a choice whatever Irans capabilities. It might simply boil down to a matter of having no other options left
19. Israel put HEZ /LEB on notice...no more hide behinds...
Jewish Doctor ,   ATLANTA GA USA   (10.04.12)
kiss your infra structure good-bye and no more hiding in mosques, schools and hospitals...war is war. Israel will now accept major LEB collateral damage as part of the the cost of war by HEZ ...as HEZ and LEB are now one! so grabbing your women and children as shields is now over with and done for. tough cookies!
20. Iran is not advanced
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.04.12)
They have made a lot of claims that are not supported by a single fact. The current regime is widely disliked by it's own people, the only thing that would unite them is a ground invasion. An aerial attack that takes out their nuclear and air force will do two things. First it will weaken the regime with the very tools that it would need to keep their population in check. No air power and the regime will fall. Second it would be a signal to the population that the regime can be defeated. Encouraging an uprising against the theocracy.
21. look at these masked "military"
(10.04.12)
has anyone ever seen any military, any military at al,dressed like this? the name masked terrorists come to mind.
22. Iran is getting weaker
Eyal ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.04.12)
I really believe that Iran is getting weaker and weaker due to the sanctions. Just think about it it costs a lot of money to maintain an army and even more to maintain an powerful army. Money that Iran doesn't have, a nuclear weapons program also costs money. I think that the reason why Israel hasn't attacked yet is that their intelligence indicate that a military strike isn't necessary. Just the threat of an military strike in combination with the sanctions and sabotage like the cyber attacks will be enough to make it impossible for Iran to actually make an nuclear weapon. The West didn't do these things when it came to North Korea, but now they are really working against Iran to make it impossible for them. Iran is being beaten by Israel without the use of real force, just like the USSR was beaten by the US without the use of force.
23. 9
zionist forever   (10.04.12)
The Merkavas you speak of were mostly Merkava 2s from the 80s which are kept in reserve for the most part and their armour hasn't been upgraded over the years. I believe there was just 1 Merkava 4 destroyed and another damaged but fixed up and was back in action. The missile was a modern Russian Kornet anti tank missiles not an Iranian one. All tanks no matter how heavy their armour can be vulnerable to anti tank missiles. Since Lebanon Israel has developed the Trophy which is fitted to vehicles and destroys anti tank missiles before they hit the tank. This system has also been tested in live fire exercises and when Hamas fired rockets at a Merkava. The IDF is fitting this system to all the Merkava, 3, 4 and Namer APCS so lessons have been learned there although in a war with Iran as there are no land borders tanks won't be used anyway.
24. WAR CRIME
Consideriser ,   Switzerland   (10.04.12)
It is a war crime to attack an operational nuclear installation not to mention an attack would be catastrophic for Israel and the entire region and probably the world. Israel should keep this mind when it makes it's decisions. Noone wants this non-sense war. To Israel's people you guys are smart and should vote out the warmongers Bibi and Barak. Guarantee you they will flee on the first flight out if and when Israel should get into this mess. Just my two cents.
25. #3 MAHMOOD - "An ounce of prevention
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.04.12)
is woth a kilo of cure"
26. #17 You're recollecton fails you
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.04.12)
You neglected to mention that Israel desrtoyed half of Lebanon in that war Future wars will not be fought on the ground, look upwards for satellites & remote control directing the fire
27. #21 HOW ABOUT BANK ROBBERS?
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.04.12)
28. #24, Foolish comment
Jake   (10.04.12)
You call Netanyahu (he's not "Bibi" to you; you ain't his buddy) a "warmonger". Netanyahu has been Prime Minister twice. Name a single instance that Netanyahu has launched a war, or any time that a war has started on his watch.
29. Paper mache weapons and
Stephen in New York   (10.04.12)
faux technology. Except for the intermediate range missiles derived from Korean, Chinese and Russian technology.
30. #17: Israel does not attack the weak.
Israeli 2   (10.04.12)
It helps them. The Lebanon wars were overkills by Israel. So much overkill that the president of Lebanon physically cried and the fat rat of Hezbolla ran to his hole. Israel devastated Beirut and had 1/2 of Lebanon in its hands. Is that your idea of losing a war?
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