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'Police harassing Jews on Temple Mount'
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 07.10.12, 07:49
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1. Influence of the media
Ege Berk Korkut ,   Turkey   (10.07.12)
I was just watching the Turkish news this morning and Turkish media present this event as an attack to the muslims on Temple Mount which is done by Israeli police. Turkish media did not show anything about what they did to the Jews. Hypocritical Turkish media..
2. legally visits r allowed, Christian & Jewish prayers r not.
That's been the status quo since 1967.
3. why should they not be?
alex ,   istanbul turkey   (10.07.12)
the Muslims came LATER. if they don't like it, then THEY can shut shop and leave!!!! enough with their conquest mentality
4. that's what the Bible Says About Muhammad
observer ,   Egypt   (10.07.12)
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." (Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18). In the Aramaic scripture brethren is written akhyahoon; fraternal brethren ( brothers with close similarity like twins), so the (that) prophet should have many things in common with Moses. Moses was speaking directly to them, so "thy" brethren equals your (not their) brethren. In Hebrew it is akheyhem and in Targumic Aramaic; it is akhyhon; interestingly meaning brothers to the degraded woman, more interestingly Hagar in the bible is degraded!. The prophet described in the above verse must have the following three characteristics: 1. He will be like Moses. 2. He will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites. 3. God will put His words in the mouth of the prophet and he will declare what God commanded him. Let us see which prophet God was speaking of. 1. The prophet like Moses Some people feel that this prophecy refers to the prophet Jesus, but, although Jesus was truly a prophet of God, he is not the prophet spoken of here. He was born miraculously without intervention of man, and finally God raised him up miraculously. On the other hand, Muhammad is more like Moses; both were born in a natural way, Both died natural deaths, Both married and got children, Both brought new laws, Both accepted by their people and Both ruled over worldly people. Why did Moses say "of your brethren" in stead of "from among you"?
5. Christianity versus Judaism
observer ,   Egypt   (10.07.12)
For about 100 to 150 years, Christianity WAS regarded as a sect of Judaism. It was argued by the apostles FOR YEARS as to whether it was necessary for Gentiles who want to convert to Christianity to have to convert to Judaism first. Finally, the Jews began to disown Christian altogether, which led to the current set of affairs. Widespread acceptance did not occur until Constantine's reign-- he made Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire.
6. What says the Law?
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (10.07.12)
Can Y Net clarify exactly who decided Jews may not pray on the Temple Mount. Other papers say the police are enforcing the law, while Y Net says Jews may pray on the Mount, but the police decided not to alow them.
7. #4
DavidR ,   USA   (10.07.12)
I could give you a very very very very long list of reasons why muhammad is not the Prophet like unto Moshe, however, Y-Net, being like the Temple Mount police would not release it. So, let me just say you have a very good start for a brand spanking new denomination. We could call it the First Church of ignorant observer.
8. #6 Sherlock
DavidR ,   USA   (10.07.12)
You're Sherlock Holmes, figure it out for yourself.
9. #4
Belinda ,   Texas, USA   (10.07.12)
You are either misreading or twisting the scripture. The bible is very clear if one reads with an open heart & mind. If you TRULY want to just know the truth, read it without bringing preconceived notions to the table.
10. #6 for starters Rabbinic Law prevents it
W. Turner ,   Israel   (10.07.12)
this is followed by laws of assembly of the State of Israel. The laws of assemble of the State of Israel are used to: 1. prevent Moslems from entering the site if the police determine there is danger to the public. (these are used generally during Ramadan to ensure that numbers are kept to a safe minimum, there are structural issues which prevent large numbers from assembly on the Mount) 2. prevent Jews and/or Christians and/or any other non-Moslem group from entering the Temple Mount area for prayer if a reasonable cause for incitement can be claimed. HOWEVER, the over riding rule of Law is the Religious law as enshrined in the powers of the Rabbinate of the State of Israel. The Rabbinate of the State of Israel has determined that entering the Temple Mount area is forbidden because today Jews do not know EXACTLY where the Holy of Holies was located and so the whole area has been deemed to be off limits.
11. There should not be Arab cops in Israeli Police.
Keren ,   IL-BR   (10.07.12)
If there weren´t ,this kind of problems would not happen. It is a matter of wrong management,but Arab cops do disturb the correct job Israel must do.
12. Schizophrenic's traits are.......
A Jew ,   Israel   (10.07.12) see what doesn't exist and NOT to see what DOES exist. There is no "Temple" there, but a so beautiful Moslem shrine, built over 1,300 yearsago onn a place used as gar- bage dump by the Byzantine Christians. So, there is no "Temple" Mount, but "Ddome of the Rock" Mount. Unless one is a schizo- phrenic sick of the Evangelist or Jewish Fundamentalist Zionist type, of course...
13. The idea that the praying Jews spark riots...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.07.12)
... stems from the racist prejudice that Arabs are not human and do not possess free will. This racism has yet to be addressed by the courts - either to prevent "spraking riots" or due to the continued prevelance of this racism in its own ranks.
14. #12
Belinda ,   Texas, USA   (10.08.12)
I pitty you
15. Places not G-d seem to be the focus.
Josh   (10.08.12)
When will we stop being distracted by shinny objects and false teachings?
16. firm hand against killing
they : focusing on praying / most Holy
17. @14 actually 12 is expressing accurate historical points...
Israel ,   Israel   (10.09.12)
nothing wrong with that. I don't agree with the manner in which he presents his position but there is truth in it and is 100% valid. Really no need to pity him just because you don't agree with him. (on a more personal note, I always read your comments with special attention because generally they are very interesting particularly for presenting a point of view very different from my own. Wishing you all the best from Israel)
18. @17
Belinda ,   Texas, USA   (10.10.12)
I pity him for 1 reason. I can't imagine being that cynical/bitter. I don't understand why people need to purposely be offensive to others. I love reading the articles and the TB's, I've learned much from many people. While I do have an opinion on many things, I don't ever want to become so closed minded that I can't see things from someone else's perspective. Blessings from the US!
19. Number 8 and 10. Many thanks
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (10.10.12)
Personally I do not ascend the Mount because Gedolei HaPoskim like Rav Elyashiv object. If the Rabbinate does not allow it, how do so many observant Jews come to be on the permitted part of the Mount? One paper says the High Court permitted Jews to ascend and to pray, which makes it confusing even for Sherlock Holmes!
20. Reply to number 12. Temple versus Dome
Joseph ,   London UK   (10.10.12)
I am neither an evangelist nor a 'Jewish Fundamentalist Zionist', whatever that means, but I u8nderstand that just as the Christians turned Roman temples into Churches, Muslims turned holy sites into Muslim sanctuaries. The Dome of the Rock covers what Muslims believe is the Foundation Stone under the Holy of Holies of the Jewish Temples that stood on that site for about one thousand years. The Prophets who foretold the Return of the Jews to Israel also foretold the building of a Third Eternal and Univeral Temple on Zion's height. Jews, Christians and Muslims are aware of these prophecies of Isaiah and Ezekiel and others. As Isaiah says, My House [Jerusalem] shall be called a House of Prayer for ALL peoples.'
21. the halacha on aliya to beit hamikdash
Frank ,   London   (10.10.12)
there are several different schools of thought. According to one, the sanctity of beit hamikdash is continuously present, and since the position of the holy of holies can not be verified all of beit ha mikdash's area is banned from assent. According to another view, while the beit ha mikdash's sanctity remains, that special one of holy of holies does not, because it's not operational. As long as the holy of holies is not operational (ie no sacrificial service), all kind of tradesmen, including even non-Jews, can enter to help to build it. According to this latter view, beit ha mikdash is the holiest piece of real-estate in Judaism, but there is no penalty in ascending there, even if one is tameh. Because of the absence of sacrificial service...
22. My first visit to Temple Mount
Someone ,   Brazil   (10.14.12)
I was at Jerusalem in 1997, and I wanted to take a look behind the Kotel. I entered the Arab side, I was using a kipah - I remember there were some Arabs that looked at me with hate in their eyes. We are now in 2012 - does this behavior remain the same way? I don't know.
23. we r here,becaus of peace....
devrim aga ,   istanbul &turkey   (10.15.12)
we need thinking ,searching and listening good.that time we can find truth way,and l dont like it turkey blame for israil without understand,peace....
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