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2-state solution is dead
Dan Calic
Published: 25.10.12, 10:36
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1. Can't put a needle in between it.…
Jack Klaber ,   R. Hasharon , Israel   (10.25.12)
Yep, this sums it up. No need to find altruistic answers from our neighbors, the Arabs. They are since almost a century as steady as concrete. No to a solution, no to a Jewish presence in the ME and no to a state called Israel. It should never ever even existed, so the only possible "solution" for them is to turn the clock back. Then "Peace" will finally come.…
2. 2-state solution is dead.
Elsie. ,   Gush Halav.   (10.25.12)
Mr Calic, you are joking, you must be, , always but always there are two sides to every historical fact, its depends on what side you base your theories, some are nutters than others
3. What? No two-state solution!?
frauss ,   Jerusalem   (10.25.12)
Congratulations, Dan. You discovered America. There never was a two-state solution. There never was a peace process and there never will be until all the Arabs convert to Mormonism. They can't accept our presence here. Their religious beliefs will never allow it. "Occupation" does not mean "West Bank". It means ALL of Israel. It's time that the Left and the rest of the world realize it. The two-state solution and the peace process are a big waste of time and money and were only a way of forcing concessions for nothing from Israel. I love the people who say "You make peace with your enemy" because they are dead wrong. You make peace with your FORMER enemy. The Palestinians aren't there yet. All the rest is smoke, mirrors and bullshit.
4. piece partner would be a better fit !
trump ,   eurabia in disarray   (10.25.12)
5. Spot on!
Frank ,   Jerusalem   (10.25.12)
forget about the peace process, its garbage! the arabs dont want it at all. get on with living life, make israel as good as it can be, let th arabs deal with their own problems! enough is enough
6. Brilliant piece!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.25.12)
It's time to end the ridiculous charade. Israel should annex Judea and Samaria, and repatriate the illegal Arab squatters therein to Jordan, country of their citizenship. It was a ridiculous idea for Israel to have even attempted negotiations in the first place. The Arabs are not interested in peaceful co-existence with Israel; they are interested exclusively in effecting the destruction of the State of Israel. Six wars of aggression, all started by Arabs and won by Israel, and seven decades of unremitting Arab terror and Arab violece are proof enough that they are not interested in peace. Israel has bent over backward to accommodate the Arabs. Enough is enough -- Israel cannot expect to live in peace with rabid jackals and hyenas in our midst. The time has come to excise the cancer.
7. 2-State Solution is Dead
Nili ,   Jerusalem   (10.25.12)
For once, the truth, nothing but the truth, and the whole truth! Congratulations! Now if only people will read this and think...
8. 2-state solution is not dead!
Susya Bar Dror ,   Israel   (10.25.12)
Since 64 years Israel is aiming for peace and since 64 years arab countries are aiming to destroy Israel. The palestinians had their chance for peace but at last moment notoriously refused the ultimate steps. Dr. Abbas, I suggest the 2-state solution which suits you: One Jewish State of Israel west of the Jordan and one Arab-Palestinian state east of the Jordan.
9. A 2 state solution was NEVER ALIVE in Israel's TINY state.
Jay ,   B.N.   (10.25.12)
It was only wishful thinking of some Arabs.
10. You want a 2 state solution if you can't even live
Jay ,   B.N.   (10.25.12)
peacefully with your neighbors? Why do you keep destroying Jewish olive groves, stealing their frutis and chopping their branches off, stealing their sheep and destroying their lives?
11. one thing....
basco ,   spain   (10.25.12)
Do correct me if i am wrong but as far as I am aware king abdullah II has stripped many palestinians in the west bank of their jordanian citizenship. how is israel supposed to expell the palestinians to jordan then?
12. They never wante a 2 state solution. Hence the refugee
PETER SM ,   MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA   (10.25.12)
'winning card",kept as an "open sore" with a deliberate Arab policy of apartheid. They want "2 Palestines side by side"
13. To: No. 11
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.25.12)
West Bank Arabs were granted Jordanian citizenship courtesy of Jordan's 1954 Citizenship Law. The grant of citizenship was irrevocable and included all progeny. The ICC has consistently ruled that an irrevocable grant of citizenship is precisely that -- irrevocable. By the way -- it is not expulsion. It is repatriation. Nothing wrong with sending Jordanian citizens to Jordan.
14. #11 basco The Same Way spain Expelled Their Jews
(10.25.12)
When do the Basques Get Country???
15. two state
dave ,   jerusalem, israel   (10.25.12)
The Palestinians already have achieved their two state solution. They have Gaza and The West Bank
16. get your facts straight
Doreen Said ,   Jerusalem USA   (10.25.12)
Barak offered 90% of the land and Palestinians refused? this so called 90% is actually 72% of what was left in the West Bank. If you want o be a respected journalist, get your facts straight. only idiots are supposed to fall for that bullshit propaganda!
17. So what's the solution?
Gabriel ,   Tel Aviv   (10.25.12)
I keep hearing this and my question is the same. So if it's dead, what next? There are a few options. 1) Forcible transfer of Palestinians which would be the end of any support for Israel from anyone and lead to boycotts which would cripple Israel 2) Apartheid-like state where Palestinians are second-class citizens which would lead to the same. 3) Single-state for both peoples which would lead to the destruction of Israel.
18. No. 14 Frankly you are out of tone
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19. Finally The Truth
Dan ,   Florida - Tel Aviv   (10.25.12)
It is about time that it is stated so clearly that the 2-state solution is DEAD. Abbas can "pound sand", hold his breath, yell, scream, cry at the UN or flagellate himself but it is over. Any of the surrounding Arab states can create an Islamic Paradise for the Palestinians or Gaza still has lots of seashore condo's available.
20. Two-state solution
Geoff ,   London (UK)   (10.25.12)
The two-state solution goes back to the Peel Commission of 1937. The Jews accepted Peel's recommendation; the Arabs rejected it.
21. We already have a THREE state solution,
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (10.25.12)
Israel and Jordan and Gaza...
22. SECURE BIG ISRAEL/Sinai back/Arab retransfer/BALANCE...PEACE
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (10.25.12)
23. 2-state solution is dead
Elsie. ,   Gush Halav   (10.25.12)
King Abdullah in the year 2008 started stripping Palestinians-Jordanians of their citizenship because Jordanians still consider them the Palestinians to the right of return, however it is more simple, Jordan does not want to become a Palestinian state as Israel would wish it to be.
24. Right of return not for sale
Sammy   (10.25.12)
25. 16 - this so called 90% is actually 72% of what was left
split ,   US   (10.25.12)
What a deal :) That's why he forgot to bring the map with him ;) Count your fingers before you shake a hand on a deal with zionist ,...
26. The best solution possible
Michiken ,   USA   (10.25.12)
Why is no one talking about Arabs converting to Judaism as a possible solution? Aren't many of them descended from Jews? Let's encourage (not force) them to return to their people. If enough take up the offer, problem solved.
27. 24 - Right of return not for sale ,...
split ,   US   (10.25.12)
The term "return" means thet they were there before you showed up,...
28. so what's the alternative exactly?
Jeff ,   USA   (10.25.12)
If you keep the West Bank permanently with citizenship and voting rights based solely on religion and ethnicity, you are no longer democratic... if you attempt to expel every non-Jew in the West Bank to Jordan, that would be what's commonly referred to as "ethnic cleansing" and even the US wouldn't allow you to do it.
29. 24
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will not happen and you know it! your arab leaders have kept promising this to you and lying. will never happen. israelis are not suicidal. who would want a bunch of primitives in a modern western country.
30. 2-stated solution is dead#29.
Elsie ,   Gush Halav   (10.25.12)
Hate to break it to you, but Israel is part of the middle east, unless ofcause someone changed the maps over night #29.
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