Try talking to Hamas
Avner Fainguelernt
Published: 19.11.12, 11:10
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1. Talk to Hamas just like we talked to Hitler
Arlozorov   (11.19.12)
Hamas is a terrrorist organization that has made its goal to kill Jews and destroy Israel. As long as that is the case, Hamas should not be negotiated with. When Hamas is no longer Hamas, then we can talk to it.
2. Op-ed try talking to Hamas
mark rosenberg ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
Who could write such an op-ed? Oh, it's a filmmaker...that makes sense...oh, and an professor. Stick to your films doc. In the real world, you can only keep the vermin down with a stick...not magic words.
3. Is he from another planet?
Ted   (11.19.12)
Israeli Government has tried talking to Hamas multiple times!! But Hamas never kept to cease fire. This article is totally misleading and waste of time.
4. Throw this garbage in trash
Chad ,   U.S.   (11.19.12)
How can you have a dialog with a group thats bent on your destruction.. In there own words and charter any peace is aimed towards their ultimate goal in the end it still comes back to the destruction of the jewish people and the taking of THEIR land given to the under the covenant of God. And they will NOT be removed
5. Naive article
JewishHeart ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
To think Mohammad Jabari was a viable leader of peace between Palestinians and Israelis is the most naiive crazy statement I ever heard in my life. I would take time to argue, but it isn't worth it!
6. try talking to Hamas
lawrence tan ,   Singapore   (11.19.12)
simple word is, "Do to others what you want others to do for you" Stop hatred and start loving.
7. Right, Avner, we should try "talking" to
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Gush Etzion   (11.19.12)
multiple murderers/terrorists like Marwan Bargouthi, people proud to have terrorized Jews, people who have no regard for Jewish lives nor, for that matter, the lives of their own people, whose singular "accomplishment" in life is to cause havoc amongst Moslems and Jews alike. It is with these aspiring heroes, men absolutely committed to the destruction of the Jewish people, with whom this fantasy cineaste would have us talk.
8. Just plain wrong
michael ,   Raanana   (11.19.12)
I am sorry but you are just so wrong on so many levels with this line of thinking. HAMAS is a terrorist organization and they should not be negotiated with purely based on that. In saying this, despite what you say, Israel has NOT tried every weapon possible. In fact, we have barely tried anything at all against them. If we wanted to we could destroy them all with the push of a button but out of humanitarian and political concerns we have decided time and again to take the softest possible approach. We have tried: 1) being soft 2) doing nothing
9. About what do you want to speak?
eli ,   Yerushalayim   (11.19.12)
Which way you have to take to the sea or what?
10. @#1
lightharry ,   New York   (11.19.12)
During the siege of the Warsaw Getto the German SS said that the women and children fighting for their lives we terrorist and there was no sense talking with them.
Omri ,   Beer Sheba   (11.19.12)
12. Avner Fainguelernt. What a dope!
Neil B. ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.19.12)
13. #10
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (11.19.12)
And I ate meat loaf for breakfast, what's the connection? I will assume your talkback comes from ignorance rather than stupidity. From the Hamas charter: introduction "Israel will exist until Islam destroys it" Article 7 "day of judgement will not come until muslims kill all the Jews" Article 8 "Jihad is our path, and death for allah is our greatest wish" As for negotiations, read Article 11, which is too long to include here.
14. I Was Totally Unaware That The Moon....
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (11.19.12)
was in the vicinity of Gaza. Seems like a long-term lack of oxygen does effect the brain. Hat-tip to Ted #3.
15. Talking to your killers
Brian ,   Miami, USA   (11.19.12)
Professor, Your suggestion can work in the fantasy like world of movies. Perhaps you can petition the IDF to allow you and your fellow movie makers to go into Gaza for a meeting with Hamas leadership. Over some hummus, I am sure you can work out a settlement with them on behalf of your fellow citizens. Just agree to give up the iron dome, Israel's weapons and to walk voluntarily into the sea with each Jewish man, woman and child. With smucks like you, Israel wouldn't make it through the week. Yes, go there and be reasonable with Hamas. You will get a chuckle and if you're lucky a bullet in that stupid headsit yours as opposed to a torturous death. Just for kicks, what would you say to Hamas leadership or do that hasn't been tried before. Let me guess, you would uproot Jewish families and unilaterally withdraw from Gaza. Oops, did that. You would allow Hamas to shell your cities with rockets for years with no more than a weak response. Oops, did that too. You would agree to a grossly disproportionate prisioner exchange and release your murderers so they can murder you again. Oops, tried that. And also tried every back channel discussion. with Hamas leadership as well. Professor, someone wrote in a post that you should stick to making films. You should not. Instead you should seek mental help urgently to help liberate you from your fantasy world.
16. Hamas understands only the Sound of Weapons
Moshe ,   Givataim   (11.19.12)
The only language that these terrorists understand is the language of weapons. Instead of talking to Hamas, you can try to pursvate a wall to move one meter by itself, still you have a better chance that the wall will move. The bunch of liars can not be counted on. Therefore let's get the job done that we have started now, and finish it once and forever.
17. Beware of Shills
Israel Israeli ,   Modiin, Israel   (11.19.12)
Thank goodness, after the 2nd Intifada, most Israelis who thought like Fainguelernt woke up to reality. Hamas does not want to talk with me or him or any Jew for that matter. They want us both dead. They love death as much as we love life. I'm not making this up - read the Hamas Charter. They mean what they write and say. Get it? What exactly are we going to talk about? If Fainguelernt would like to cross over the border to try to try his best to convince them otherwise - good luck but don't try to 'educate' others with your "Let's Talk" Liberal BS. Been there, done that. How many times should we repeat the same mistakes of concessions and appeasement, hoping for different results and continue to think we're sane?
18. Nothing new
Oleg ,   USA   (11.19.12)
Majority of those who are in some kind Art sphere, they live in a different world, mostly created by their imagination. they do not understand what is in reality.
19. What a Lie
Tomy ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
Gaza vicinity residents say Israeli leaders have tried out every single weapon in the world –except finally reoccupying Gaza and putting end to ten years of suffering of the citizens of South Israel
20. Non-Sense
Abu Yussef al Yahudi ,   Bue-Aires-Argentina   (11.19.12)
What Ynet is issuing this non-sense article? Had the fimmaker read what is written in BOLD letters in the Hamas' Chart? The supreme goal of Hamas is the DESTRUCTION of the State of Israel and the murdering of the Jewish People, when more of our Jewish Siblings being murdered, better for these Barbarians. What kind of dialogue can a Human Being mantain with these Islamic Jihadist/Terrorist, whose minds are poisoned by the venomous teachings of Muhammad, their fake prophet? NOTHING, NADA, NULL, ZERO. For sure, you will have a more successful dialog with a gorilla than with these brainwashed individuals. AM ISRAEL CHAI
21. Try talking to Jeffrey Dahmer when he's hungry
Jeffrey in Boston ,   Boston, USA   (11.19.12)
22. We must have dialogue!
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (11.19.12)
Israel: why do you bomb us? Hamas: because we hate you and want you to die Israel: Didn't we leave Gaza, what do you want. Hamas: we want to glorify our Prophet by fulfilling his prophecy that Jews will be killed by Muslims. Israel: then it's not the blockade? Hamas: no, that is just an excuse to kill you. IS THIS WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND BY DIALOGUE? Very helpful for moving towards peace.
23. It appears...
Ram ,   London   (11.19.12)
the writer's academic accomplishments are totally divorced from reality.
24. Op-Ed Avner Fainguelernt
Henry ,   Cavite, Philippines   (11.19.12)
You must read the Koran to know who those enemies of Israel really are. Your doctorate is not helping you any at the moment. Try a High School level analysis and look at current events from a historical and religious perspective.
25. The writer is an idiot!!!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (11.19.12)
Dialogue with a terrorist is like having a conversation with a two year-old child, while they cry for more candy. With that said, one could probably have a more stimulating conversation with a small child than they can with Hamas! The writer is beyond ignorant...he's worse: he's a typical, liberal coward who would rather appease the terrorist animals than fight for what's right. He'll always be a fool because he doesn't know any better. He needs to be deported to Gaza so that he can live with the realities of living under a terrorist regime. He disgusts me; a frightful woman masquerading as a man!
26.  Avner Fainguelernt: a doctor of stupidity!!!
Mr. Pain ,   USA   (11.19.12)
I guess they'll will give anyone a doctorate for doing nothing but being dumb. A penny for his thoughts; that's about as much as they are worth! The only way one negotiates with a terrorist is by killing them, before they get you! God bless, Israel...and, may He have pity on the insanely stupid!!!
27. #18 he is a professor
Professors need money to do research. Fainguelernt will be paid very handsomely for this article.
28. Talk to Hamas
Philip ,   Jerusalem   (11.19.12)
Tiring old fool with tired old nonsense. Do you think we haven't tried talking to them? Is this your NEW idea? Get a job and stop wasting our time.
29. We did, and they replied...
Mark ,   KS, Israel   (11.19.12)
.... more than 2000 times, in the form of rockets aimed at the civilian population of Israel! As the USA quite rightly states as a policy "we don't negotiate with terrorists"! We need to talk to Palestinian leaders who ACTUALLY value life itself, who CARE about the ordinary people of Gaza and who have a moral agenda, not a junked up agenda of violence and hatred. They talk that talk and we will walk that walk Until then, pound Hamas in submission until the people of Gaza rise up and demand a leadership that can honestly want and represent REAL peace
30. Get real!
Geoff ,   London (UK)   (11.19.12)
The author of this article should read the Hamas Charter. It will leave him in no doubt where negotiations with Hamas will lead.
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