Jewish Scene  Rabbi Levi Brackman
Israelis can joke but for us it's serious
Rabbi Levi Brackman
Published: 19.11.12, 07:43
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1. Justice is blind
Imran Ibrahim ,   New York, US   (11.19.12)
How many innocents did Hamas's recent rockets killed compared to women and children killed by this Isreal Escalation.
2. Simple
zorkor ,   Somewhere   (11.19.12)
Or Israel just leave the occupied land stop building settlements, razing Palestinian homes and farms then we can solve the issue.
3. Don't lock down Gazans' Borders
Bean cube ,   seattle washington   (11.19.12)
What would Zionists do if they were the one being locked inside an open air prison for a generation after their homes and lands are taken away with the helps from Britain and US? I guess they will shoot a lot of rockets and they will even shoot rockets to London and New York as well.
4. Simple?
David ,   Beer-Sheva, Israel   (11.19.12)
It would be "simple" but unfortunately for the Islamists "occupied land" is defined as ALL the Middle East; so Jews have a choice either to go back to Europe/Africa or to stay here and defend ourselves. For those of us who have chosen the latter alternative, it has meant decades of war -- of which the current "escalation" is just another example. Yes, it is that simple..
5. @Simple
Dave ,   New York   (11.19.12)
Get your facts straight. Israel has not occupied the Gaza strip for over 20 years. It's administrated by the Palestinian Authority. If they had kept quiet, Israel would not need to do what it's doing now. Unfortunately that's not the case and that authority is letting Hamas rule them (to some degree unwillingly). This is simply the reaction of Israel after suffering Qassam rocket strikes for such an unbearable period of time.
6. proportionate force
Au. ,   Jerusalem   (11.19.12)
so in order to use "proportionate force" Israel soldiers are supposed to throw rocks at Balestinian cars, slaugter 2 month old babies with a knives, smash babies heads against the rock & fire rockets made in Iran?
7. 100% victors of war in history used disproportionate force!
Cyberbrain ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
100% if vanquished did not. War is ABOUT acquiring AND USING disproportionate force. Only Jew-haters want Israel not to use disproportionate force. We SHOULD use disproportionate force. Don't apologize for it.
8. #5 Careful of eroding our position
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   www.netzarim.co.il   (11.19.12)
"such an unbearable period of time" should be one rocket fired into our country OR one RPG or mortar fired across our border OR one infiltration, etc. There is no bearable period of time and I'm ashamed that our leaders have left our southern residents under fire at all. I've been ashamed since we left a soldier to die in Yoseiph's tomb. I will remain ashamed until Israel grows a backbone. No other nation would tolerate such things. But we apparently tend to view ourselves through the eyes of our Jew-hating enemies. Maybe that's an advantage of absorbing "converts" who haven't grown up accepting, and don't tolerate, such racist hatred directed against us.
9. Blood of ALL victims on hands of rocket launchers & jeep hit
Cyberbrain ,   World   (11.19.12)
Hamas using their own people as human shields, launching rockets into civilian population -- ALL Hamas war crimes, and Hamas must be prosecuted for every war crime!!!
10. @ #3
Aaron ,   Singapore   (11.19.12)
Yup, don't lock them in. Throw the gates wide open so that they can resume their suicide bombing campaign! It's common knowledge that gazans resort to using rockets because israel's so effective at stopping suicide attacks with gates. And btw, part of the fence is controlled by Egypt. Go figure.
11. It is not the number of casualties that count
Ahmad Hammoud   (11.19.12)
Hammas are not killing lots of Israelis not for lack of trying, but because they are failing. They are failing, because, unlike hammas, Israel actually cares about its citizen and works hard to protect them. So they have shelters and state of the art missile defense systems and warning systems, and people are trained to protect themselves as much as possible . Hammas on the other hand does not care of the civilians, they fire randomly , from within civilian sites and a large chunk of their rockets fall on Palestians . The blood of the Palestenian children is on the hands of the Hamas. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop the operation. It they stop building their arsenal, the siege would be lifted. But sadly, Hamas hates Israel more than they care about their own, and we are seeing the sad result of that. All the arab nations who claim their support for the Palestinians are also guilty in this story. Instead of pushing towards a peaceful solution, they fight Israel through Hamas while their countries live in peace. If you really care about the Palestinians, work for the removal of Hamas (who by the way treat Gaza residents atrociously if they dare to oppose them in anyway )
12. Justice is blind
Raymond ,   South Africa   (11.19.12)
Imran what is your point?Must Israel say ok Hamaz you killed 4xIsraelis no we kill four Hamaz.Then wait for the next batch of Israelis to be killed so that they then can kill the same number of Hamaz..Come on if you step on the lions tale expect to be demolished.
13. don't lock down Gazan's borders
Raymond ,   South Africa   (11.19.12)
what a pathetic question.Zionists were locked up before 1948,they will never get into that situation again.However to elaborate on your guess,I guess they would knock the daylights out of the Arafat cockroaches,like they are doing now so whatever side they might be the outcome will be the same.
14. nothing new under the sun
michel ,   ashkelon   (11.19.12)
In the world perception, the jew can`t be allowed to defend itself less to make his agressor to pay the price. This is pure millenary antisemitism. So donn`t worry and go on doing what it takes to stop them once for all.
15. Blind because don't want to see
Noa   (11.19.12)
These rockets are fired into Israel in order to kill. They don't as much as hoped for, and not for lack of trying. So stop firing and you will have peace. What is so difficult to understand?
16. Rabbi Levi Brackman
Henry ,   Cavite, Philippines   (11.19.12)
Dear Rabbi, It's time to dig up the real answer to the question "Why the holocaust" and "Why Armaggedon", and "Why world-wide Anti-semitism". Do you think the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has no role in them???
17. #16 Henry
David ,   London, England   (11.19.12)
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob gave man free will to think and do as he pleases. The question as to whether that which man does pleases the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is between each man and God at the appropriate time.
18. You " American" Rabbi!
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (11.19.12)
It is really very easy to make heroic speech from so far. As for your mediocre political article, Is this a rabbi's duty or within religious frame of duties? Your article is as simple as even most of those jews writing here talkbacks may write much better than yours. Why do not you return back to your religious advices
19. Henry Phillines
Raymond ,   South Africa   (11.19.12)
Now we are getting to the real issue. Henry I challenge you,give us the real answer to the 3xthings you mentioned.You should not leave Ishmael out because at the end of the day he is the core of all this trouble.
20. #1
Defender of Israel   (11.19.12)
What the heck does it matter how many people Hamas' rockets killed? No normal, functioning society wants to live like that, except maybe your people, Ibrahim. We waited four years and endured barrages of rockets and now it is time to properly defend our people (through targeted killing of terrorists) from people who hate Jews more than they love their own children. Wake up, world!
21. #16, God of Abraham did have a role.
Michael ,   California, USA   (11.19.12)
The role is illusive, invisible, imperceptive. Call it the king with no clothes, or call it baseless imagination. As you wisely noticed, Armaggedon and Anti-semitism prove it. Add to it the w.w.II Holocaust and the Spanish Inquisition, as well as the Kozak riots. Now add to it the rockets that are shot from Gaza on cities in Israel. All this proves a role that was never born, a role that means nothing.
22. #3 Mr Bean cubed
jo moor   (11.19.12)
Beanie! Where have you been? Maybe you should read up about american history sothat you too can bury your hear at wounded knee. WTF did you guys do to your local Indians....invite them to a local pub for a drink at sundown sothat they would not feel imprisoned. Gaza was left alone. They have chosen not to recognise Israel or even the thought of it. They persecute their own. Da boyz voted them in.....now they must face accountability for their actions.....but they will creep up the skirt of of their womwnfolk to try to escape. Thats what you call Brave Heart. LOL
23. #18
Avram Goldsmith ,   Toronto, Canada   (11.19.12)
I understand your frustuation, why to put it on the Rabbi????
24. #1
bigal ,   rananna Isr   (11.20.12)
maybe israeli women and children are not getting killed by hamas rockets because they ARE NOT used as human shields like the victoms in gaza that. the brave heroic hamas fighters cower behind like rabid rats
25. To #1: Imran,
doctor ,   USA   (11.20.12)
Hamas's thugs do not kill many innocents not because they care about human life but because they simple can't. There would not be so many palestinian civilian casualties either if Hamas did not use civilian population as a human shield.
26. Get a grip, man . . .
Crooksmeister ,   Sydney, Australia   (11.20.12)
The Arabs are devotees of might-makes-right?? Take a closer look at what the lunar Israeli right is doing at the moment, then think again.
27. Israelis can joke but for us it's serious
aj ,   CALGARY, CANADA   (11.20.12)
The learned Rabbi talks about the judeo-christian values as different from many others around the world- in essense more peaceful and less violent. You have to look only few decades back to the atrocities of the christian Europeans to realize your faulty argument and that you are not on any higher moral pedestals. I also wish that people who leave comments stop their myopic view of the immediate aggression y iIsrael and debate why is Israel refusing to have a peaceful state wth secure borders in %88 of historic palestine and keeps building settlements in the West Bank ignoring international law and UN resolutions. This is the elephant in the room that needs to be addressed. please publish.
28. Calgary Canada
Raymond ,   South Africa   (11.20.12)
The Rabbi is not talking about judeo christianity,he cant because his religion does not acknowledge Christ. He is talking about the Jewish people who is once again being persued by their enemies.The Jews have been persued back more than 2000years ago by Arabs,Romans and Ottomans.They have no ties to Christian Europeans. This land in question was promised by God to Israel.On the other hand the Ishmaelites who have got a gene in them from the day they are born,that causes them to pick a fight with anybody even their own brothers.They are like a wild donkey. So whatever the wise people have to say does not count if they dont accept that Israel is Gods people He is behind them ,and every nation that has stood against Israel is going to be judged by God,and that is going to be horrific.
29. @27 name one country with no territorial demands to neighbor
Miron ,   USA   (11.20.12)
Each and every one. How many rocket neighbors? Zero besides Hamas. Is there any other country with territorial disputes you justify ongoing terror of neighbor? You want your Palestine, Anti - Semites, field your army.
30. Racist rabbi
Terry ,   USA   (11.20.12)
What a racist rabbi, I am sure that if someone said that about the Israeli we will call them anti Semite. Shame on you rabbi
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