5 women, 4 children killed in Gaza strike
Elior Levy
Published: 18.11.12, 20:03
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31. #30 say what?
Tahl   (11.18.12)
The conflict is not in the West Bank but in Gaza, from which Israel completely withdrew seven years ago. I'm no big fan of some of the settlements in the WB myself, but if you think they are the root cause of Hamas' vow to destroy Israel, you are badly deluded. Are Sderot, Ashdod and Tel Aviv also "settlements"? Get it into your head - these people will not rest until "all of Palestine" is liberated.
32. #17...David the duped....
RichInBoston ,   Boston USA   (11.18.12)
That strong logic. Israel should halt all defensive measures because the hamas hid in and around civilians. Here's a lesson for you David in San Fran...this is war and in war innocents are killed. The big difference here is that the hamas are actively targeting civilians. If there are crimes here, they are perpetrated by the palestinians and the hamas government they elected. Time to fix your moral compass. Idiot.
33. To all Israelis
Jimi ,   Palestine   (11.18.12)
When i read your comments, really shocked how much inhuman and diluted thinking most commenters reached.... Basics are : Palestinians are the occupied and by Int LAW have the right to defend themselves and free their lands in any means including milatary against anyone who occupies their land, Second: Occupier cant say that i left part of the land and so people ther should keep come palestine is occupied and leaving Gaza does not mean end of conflict..full peace treaty IS. Third: Israel have no right to target any palestinian under no circumstances as it is the Occupation force... Final: Israel is following up the steps of all the occupiers in history...VANISHING...missing the chance of existance withing the NATURAL environment is VANISHING... Keep this in Mind
34. @30 field your army. Ierushalaim is not West or Bank.
Miron ,   USA   (11.18.12)
35. @30 by the way, 10% unemployment is a very good reason
Miron ,   USA   (11.18.12)
to worry about Ierushalaim.
36. @30 our Afghan properties are much pricier
Miron ,   USA   (11.18.12)
37. @20 and you should have same for Libya and Afghan.
Miron ,   USA   (11.18.12)
let's see who will sit longer in ICJ confinement, critiques...
38. @25 shall we look at photos of Benghazi and Cabul?
Miron ,   USA   (11.18.12)
And while we are at it, how many rockets from Cabul struck London? In the past 10 years?
39. Tom @30 Do you realy believe what you wrote
John Phee ,   Sydney AUSTRALIA   (11.18.12)
Sorry Tom, but if you think that any of this is over the West Bank (Judea & Samaria) you have no understanding of this sad conflict. Have you read the PLO, HAMAS eetc charters. None of them recognise Israel or the Jews right to exist. Their claim is a rolling or moving claim. Give me today & I will ask for more tomorrow. There will be no end to the Arab claims.
40. In the meantime Israel providing Hamas electricity
naro ,   nyc   (11.18.12)
In order to allow their fighters to see their rocketry work better. It is beyond belief. There is a sickness in the Israeli leaders.
41. @33 Jimi, Palestine
AlanfromRye ,   RYE NY USA   (11.18.12)
Jimi, So by your Muslim logic, Israel should just sit back while you Muslims just fire missile after missile?? You Muslims expect the rest of the world to play by your one-sided rules. Muslims destroy every culture that has the misfortune of coming into contact with your evil religion and us Infidels are not allowed to fight back? I think those days are over JIMI. Enjoy the upcoming Invasion, Jimi. The rest of the world is slowly waking up that Islam is a take-only religion. It's always heads Islam wins, tails, Infidels lose with Muslims. Keep firing rockets at Israel, JIMI. And stop crying when they fight back!!
42. Unfortunate but this is war
David ,   Minneapolis, USA   (11.18.12)
Whilst this loss of life is unfortunate, this is war and there was bound to be collateral damage eventually. There will probably be more. Unlike Hamas, the IDF does not deliberately target civilians, so there has been an error, but as I say it's war. Hamas knows what it needs to do for the attacks to cease, stop sending rockets over. Only when their Iranian paymasters say so, will they stop though, so we could be in for a long bloody conflict.
43. The IDF sent leaflets . . .
SD Charger ,   San Diego   (11.18.12)
If you hang around Hamas, you will get bombed. It has been 3 days since the IDF bombed them with leaflets telling them to leave. They would be rejoicing, like they did on 9/11 if some of their rockets killed Israeli civilians, so it goes both ways when collateral damage is exacted during war. Maybe the Palestinian's will get tired of being in the middle and get rid of the terrorists, but I doubt it.
44. 5 Women and 4 children?
Mike S. ,   Phoenix, USA   (11.18.12)
Since WW2 I have never heard of a state's army who does such war crimes. Very disgraceful.
45. Just don't know what to believe anymore!
Susie ,   Scotland   (11.18.12)
Today the papers in Britain showed a father cradling his dead son in a medical clinic in Gaza. Later on I read that this was actually a man in Syria who was cradling his son who was killed by either the rebels of the government! the saying 'never trust an Arab comes to mind!
46. @44 didn't hear about our drones in Afghan?
Miron ,   USA   (11.19.12)
Ahh... you didn't know, yesterday 25 rockets from Afghanistan blew up in Wasthington D.C..
47. Mike # 44
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.19.12)
Since World War 2? Where have you been Mike? Korea, Vietnam, etc. Do you really think children didn't die in those wars or do you just not think at all? Men, women, children all die in wars Mike. That's what war is, killing people before they kill you and doing what is necessary to make them stop.
48. 46 and 47
Mike S. ,   Phoenix, USA   (11.19.12)
Civilians were never targeted this way. And it sounds as if you're justifying it.
49. Feral Tribalism
zivron   (11.19.12)
Scottish clansso called Christian.massacred eachother in Bangladesh and Biafra in Rwanda genocide byrace also white Serbiaand Croatia through history civilian child murder-Hamas Fatah the baath the Syrian rebels and the Jews also now thevisciourevenge human genes.It can only be minimilized.
50. Every dead terrorist is 1 that won't reproduce.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.19.12)
51. Susie....Mike # 47 is correct.
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.19.12)
War kills people. And that gives us the right to kill Children & Women and invalids and those in hospitals, and those that can't defend themselves. Everyone's fair game. The rules say so, (and we can make up the rules as we go along and if you don't like it, you must be anti-semitic).... However you cannot attack anyone who lives in New York, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem or any Israeli town or city or any place where us Jews live.. That's off limits and you can't attack anyone there. Only other places, otherwise you are probably a terrorist...... I hope that clears up any confusion...
52. #17 - don't think anyone is justifying this if a mistake
William ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
There might have been a military legitimacy for this target or bad intel. But no one in Israel justifies the killing of innocents and their hearts ache for this action. We'd all rather such a mistake even being an option and everyone lived in peace. Sadly, Arab elements work to ensure heartbreak on both sides is still an option.
53. #21 - hoping the IDF is tracking these errant rockets in Gaz
William ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
Both to humiliate Hamas when they're dragged in as war criminals...and to offset those civilian injuries and deaths that will be blamed on the IDF but really caused by Hamas.
54. #30 - today's battle is not about Jews being in Beit El
William ,   Israel\   (11.19.12)
But about Jews being in the Middle East, period. And compared to other conflicts this century - this is the least costly in terms of lives. 800+ targets hit and only 1 possible mistake with civilian an urban environment where a terrorist group uses civilians as human shields. That's DAMN GOOD statistics no matter how cynical one is.
55. #33 - nice try Jimi, but all wrong
William ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
You're not an "occupied" people because no law actual claims you are. You didn't raise your voice at all when Jordan and Egypt occupied the same land, therefore it just shows you're being racists. Second, you occupied our land. In decades leading up to the birth of our State, you targeted and killed our civilians when we had no defense. In 1948, your ilk joined Arab armies to commit a genocide of Jews. In 1949 you ethnically cleansed Jews from their homes in Gaza, WB, and Jerusalem, stole their property. Until 1967, you used that land to commit terrorism and attack civilians in their homes in Israel. And you never gave up the goal of destroying Israel, even when you signed the Oslo Accords promising you would. Your take on Intl Law is both laughable and highly biased. Israel can target ANYONE who seeks to harm the State or its citizens. You did so with rockets, suicide bombers, etc and you pay the price. Intl Law has limitations on self-defense in that, you CANNOT purposely target civilians, and that is exactly what you do. That means you're war criminals, per Intl Law, actually. The world is growing tired of "Palestinians", especially now with economic issues at home and Pally intransigence, with a bias towards violence. Fayyad admitted to this. Keep this in mind, Jimi.
56. #48 - did you just wake from a 68 year coma?
William ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
"Civilians were never targeted this way" Actually, civilians were not the target of this attack on the building. and yes, many civilians were targeted in horrible, heinous ways that eclipse any mistake the IDF could possibly do. Does Syria ring a bell? How about Darfur? North Korea blatantly shelled an island near South Korea and killed civilians. List goes on.....
57. War
Michael ,   Perth Australia   (11.19.12)
Mike You need to read up on the Blitz, the bombing of Dresden, Coventry among other cities. WW2 was total war which meant civilian casualties become secondary to winning. Israel is being very restrained and is merely knocking out threats. To not support them is to support continual rocket launches against Israeli civilians. Israel is more effective and is doing what a nation state is expected to do in these circumstances - protect its civilians. When Palestinians do the same they will be worthy of their own state. I'm not holding my breath.
58. I apologise for these inadvertent killings
Ehud Barak ,   "Defence" ministry   (11.19.12)
My darling Palestinian children, I am so so sorry. I promise I won't take out your cell phones. I promise I won't take out your electricity. I promise you will have all the petrol you want. Because I love you so much. I promise I will only make a show of war as I did a few years back, but not actually win this war, I will let hamas win because of my love for you dear Arab friends.
59. Palestinians- Gaza is not Occupied and
BJL ,   usa   (11.19.12)
Judea and Samaria (aka west bank) are quiet. So Gazans are just proving that disengagement and land for peace doesnt work! All land given back is now a huge terror camp! No more land for war. No two state solution!
60. Response to Mike S from Phoenix
alanfromRye ,   RYE NY USA   (11.19.12)
Mike S, do you have your head up your ass or in the sand? The only people who TARGET civilians are Muslims. That's why it's called TERRORISM. Where do you come off saying or implying that Israel targeted civilians. I'll bet your real name is Mohammed!
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