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Dozens of artists call for ceasefire
Merav Yudilovitch
Published: 19.11.12, 18:19
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31. 'This is not the right way to do it"
Shalom ,   U.S.,A.   (11.19.12)
The despicable israeli Left raising their ugly heads again!
32. We already followed their way.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (11.19.12)
Their way, the way of appeasement, will only end in terror, war, death and destruction.
33. Dozens of artists call for ceasefire
Lazerbenabba ,   London, England   (11.19.12)
"Periods of peace and quiet were always the result of a dialogue and agreement. We have already assassinated terrorists and launched military operations, as well as invaded Gaza, and nothing has changed apart from more killing and more hatred." The above paragraph from the so called artists and intellectuals, begs the question and also gives the answer. How can you have dialogue or negotiation when the heart of the problem is that it is and always will be a waste of time. The Hamas Charter expressly calls for the eradication of the Jews of Israel and the demolition of the State. Unless they abrogate/change the basis for their being what is the point. Another few months of relative quiet until Iran has boosted their arsenal and the self delusion that is the hallmark of everything Arab, that in the midst of an abject defeat, they still claim victory. Reality and honesty is completely absent from their mentality. After every defeat inflicted upon the Arab nations the desire for martyrdom re emerges even stronger. Until there does emerge a pragmatic political reality (an impossibility by definition when applied to Arabs), Israel will have to in perpetuity decimate their military capability and somehow create a version of peace.
34. All those talkback just show
Gregg ,   Haifa Il   (11.19.12)
How israelis are warmongers and don't deserve any peace process
35. what we can do?
David ,   Netanya, Israel   (11.19.12)
...but this is not the right way !!! ? I'm not sure about the right way, but I believe that if this artists want to go to Gaza and give some songs to the terrorists, may be we start to receive the rokets at the music rhythm !! at least is more fun, don't you think?
36. Destroy Hamas and retake Gaza forever.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
It was the idiotic leftist plan to flee Gaza that is the root source of ALL Israel's Gaza problems. The latest leftist brain wave is to talk peace with the Hamas Nazis. The infallibly wrong left strikes again. Israel needs to destroy Hamas and retake Gaza forever.
37. #8 - Dialogue is Good
oigevalt ,   Toronto   (11.19.12)
Spot on! I hope those self-absorbed, narcissistic, latte-sipping Tel Aviv "intellectuals" read it and hang their heads in shame. They are as predictable as they are stupid.
38. #8 good stuff, thanx for the laugh
KACH 613 ,   Judah Israel   (11.19.12)
39. I dont think the South wants them. Send them to Gaza.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (11.19.12)
40. if early zionists were intellectuals scary thought
zionist forever   (11.19.12)
Intellectuals always seem to be on the far left, they think they are the clever ones with all the answers and if we just listen to them then all our problems will be solved. If the early zionists had been intellectuals instead of fighting for statehood we would have spent the last 64 years holding cultural events with the arabs so we can show the world Jews & arabs want to be friends. Do us all a favour and go dance and draw some pretty pictures like artists are supposed to do and leave military matters to the politicians and generals.
41. That the Peace Dukes of Israel are given a forum...
Daniel ,   JM   (11.19.12)
...is an insult to the memory of our granddads who fought and died in WWII and kept pressing on despite periods "of peace and quiet",which Hitler's minions would have loved "a period of peace and quiet" in 1945 to rearm and regroup. They are a disgrace and should be treated as such.
42. #21 warrior society & pre 1967
yosef ,   williamsburg US   (11.19.12)
#21 - "warrior society"? So you are saying that if a country responds to being attacked then they have become a warrior society? Pre 1967 borders have nothing to do with these animals firing hundreds of rockets into Israel...are you that naive??
43. # 8 very funny
Ari Gold ,   La, USA   (11.19.12)
The conversation sounds interesting. It would probably be even more violent. Oz sounds like his brain is living in Oz.
44. The Left always offers peace...
Max Merbaum ,   Los Angeles   (11.19.12)
The Left always offers peace because it is their only play, the only arrow in their quiver, their plan A and B. Only those comfortable with making war can offer peace with credibility. The Left offers peace and the enemy asks, "What else could you offer?"
45. again to paraphrase Frank Zappa-
Barney ,   USA   (11.19.12)
Israeli "intellectuals" and lefty artists are people who can't recognize reality, interviewing and speaking with people who lie about reality, for people who don't want to hear the reality. peace-it takes two baby.
46. The Hubris of the Ubermenschen
Rick ,   USA   (11.19.12)
47. Useful Idiots!
Reuven   (11.19.12)
48. Shalom Amos Oz
Astronaut ,   ME, USA   (11.19.12)
Sir, I have read many of your novels; Fima, To Know A Woman, Don't Call it Night, My Michael, A Perfect Peace, etc., I have admired your ability to perceive the human condition, the relationships of men & women, husbands & wives, sons & daughters. How you can fill pages with insightful precepts into the human soul and at the same time, degrade your own country by sucking up to those who would happily slit your throat – I've wondered why, over the course of your 70 - odd years on earth, you have not denounced your Israeli citizenship, and moved to an Arab country, where, it seems, your disturbed soul may at last, find some peace? Why have you not converted to Islam? Why do you continue to write in Hebrew?
49. Dialogue and agreement
Rick ,   USA   (11.19.12)
"Periods of peace and quiet were always the result of a dialogue and agreement." Like the agreement signed by the Japanese on the Missouri? Or the agreement signed by Karl Dönitz in Berlin? These were obviously due to dialogue and agreement with the enemy after they were ground to a pulp.
50. truce is in the interest of the terrorists!
uli ,   Jerusalem   (11.19.12)
51. Misdirected Petition
emanon ,   USA   (11.19.12)
The petition for peace needs to be directed at the arabs, not the Israelis. It is the arab side that has a charter proclaiming the right to wipe Israel off the amp. It is the arab side that teaches their kids their highest goal in life is to die in combat killing Jews. No, the petition was grossly misdirected.
52. Artists and intellectuals!
Sam M ,   UK   (11.19.12)
If I kiss enough backsides in the art world will my 'finger painting'' 'palestinians bring in the olive harvest' elevate me into the ranks of this cultural elite of 'artists' and 'intellectuals' and thereby make my views newsworthy as well? Or would a few lines of feeble poetry do the trick? But then I'm not 'in touch with my creative side' so what the hell would I know?
53. Peace with Hamas
Steve a ,   manchester England   (11.19.12)
I remember a group of German Jews in 1938 signing up to an announcement that they regarded themselves as Germans first & Jews second. Guess where they ended up ? They thought they did the right thing. I think I know what Hamas want !
54. #8, Avi...YOUR dialog is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.19.12)
I just laughed my ass off...
55. Oz is living in Oz
Dr. Martin ,   New York   (11.19.12)
Amos Oz and his intellectual Left colleagues are right -- Hamas should sign peace agreement. Right! but it is thanks to their Right colleagues that they are left (alive!) to freely write fiction! -- what they do best. Face the facts Amos, all you know is to invent human tragedy; you have no idea or experience in real life.
56. Barking up the wrong tree!!!
Riva ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
Do these guys really believe that Israel DOESN'T want peace! they need to approach the ARABS! BECAUSE, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DON'T WANT A CEASE FIRE AND ARE NOT WILLING TO BACK DOWN FROM THEIR UNREASONABLE AND UNSAFE -FOR- ISRAEL DEMANDS!
57. So much pretense of ignorance.
Ron ,   Melbourne, Australia   (11.20.12)
Israel left Gaza. At that point in time Hamas could have focused on betterment of his people. No Rockets, No Blockade, Happy Gazans, Happy Israelis. Instead they focused on a path to Israel destruction - just look at Hamas TV programs, children indoctrination, Hamas Charter, Hamas Statements & Action and of-course Rockets galore. The statement just seat and talk ignores all that was before and all the drives Hamas. What would have happens if Hamas are given free rain , zero blockade, etc - to build such an arsenal of rockets so that a thousand iron domes could not respond sufficiently. Even with all the blockade it is obvious that they have manged within a short time to be a huge cache of rockets. will the ceasefire change their stated objectives or just allow them to perfect weapons, improve accuracy , explosive power, etc. Where are all theses do-gooders when close to 1000 rockets were falling on Israel? , Have you seen any petitions ?? - If you have a region who has clear racist ideology (no hard to see their TV, etc) , bent on Israel destruction, interested in Hunda but not peace (for the sake of building more military capability) - what is the meaning of temporary truth if the next phase is orders of magnitude worst. History if full of examples where backing down against murderous tyrannic forces which have no long term interest in peace only reasulted in worst situation not better - look at Chamberlin and you see Amos Oz. - big on words (an author after all) but little on consitency and little on reasl solutions apart from just talk. Like Talking to Hitler on a temporary truce would have changed much the course of his actions. Not everything in life is simple and there is a difference between a story which the Author molds to the reality of murderus regime such as Hamas - see how he is treating his own people, Christians in Gaza, women, etc - perhaps Amos Oz will suggest that all these people would be a nice talk around the table with Tea and cucumber sandwiches. Amazing that these people only come out of the woodworks when Israel is responding for thousands of Rockets over the years - only when Israel Acts.........
58. This is many times proved way to make peace with enemy!
Boris ,   Australia   (11.20.12)
You can make peace, after your enemy capitulated
59. #56 Barking up the wrong tree
Masha ,   Boston, USA   (11.20.12)
Just barking... as in barking mad, that is...
60. they should stick to writing. know nothing else.
ralph   (11.20.12)
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