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US media: Israel may win battle but Hamas wins war
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 20.11.12, 13:05
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31. of course....
michel ,   ashkelon   (11.20.12)
the arabs win always \;the Sinai war, the six day war, kippur war,etc,etc. They will always win the wars in their delirium but in the reality they didn`t won any because they are simply no good at any mesure.
32. To Salma
Chana ,   Europe   (11.20.12)
Salma we are Jews , we are winner anyway and we will be finel winner down here and above, now and after. You are muslim- arab so you already lose. and then look inside Gaza and look inside Israel.... who is the winner?
33. I know of no wars won by the media.. do you?
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.20.12)
When they win a war, let me know.
34. Such bologna EVERYBODY SUPPORTS ISRAEL !!!!
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.20.12)
Send some media 'reporters' to gaza along with an ample supply of adult sized diapers that they will surely fill when trying to 'reconstruct' this nonsense to fit this fictional 'story.'
35. Is all about Iran
Israel ,   USA, GTexas   (11.20.12)
Why did Hamas started this round just after the US elections, and why do they whant the IDF to go into Gaza with a ground operation? Simple Hamas is a pupet of Iran who provides them weapons and money, the more Israel goes into the mess that will be to go into Gaza the less Israel can focus on the real problem that is Iran reaching the point of no return on their nuclear program. Netanyahu and others on the top know this, the operation goals (that I think was to destroy as much as possible the launching capablities of Hamas and test the Iron dome defense has been a total success, on the way also some of the structure that Hamas uses has been severely damage) Know we (Israel) should not go into a ground waist of time operation in Gaza, is better to keep the air operation. May G-d protect Israel
36. #6 Who do you suggest?
Alex   (11.20.12)
Should run as leader instead? Lieberman (pretty much the only one who'd finish Hamas off once and for all)?
37. It is the end of Israel
hamuda ,   Gaza   (11.20.12)
When Gaza is able to bomb Tel Aviv by local rockets, this means there is no chance for Israel to survive in this region
38. Hamas Won???
Moti ,   Austin, USA   (11.20.12)
Nonsenses, the Gaza people heard Hamas speeches, heard Hamas claims. But, when they look around, they see none matches reality.
39. Typical contrarian approach
Mb   (11.20.12)
This shows that the media takes an opposite approach from the obvious just to draw attention in the form of newspaper sales or web views. Time and time again, headlines like "mitt romney will win in a landslide", "divorce is good for you", etc., is just trumped up "news" to get attention and make it seem the media knows more. They don't.
40. to 37
bla   (11.20.12)
bla bla bla....
41. gaza should be flattened lile drezden in ww2
trump   (11.20.12)
in order to win But given the leverage oil gives to qatar and saudi arabia,we are not allowed to apply that recipe Aditionally, westen sense of morale is vanishing fast If applied 40 years ago, British and US bomber crews would be tried at nuremberg and ss would be free .........
42. US Media...
Stephen Korn ,   Sharon   (11.20.12)
As long as the majority of US News Media follow the following narrative - that Israel stole the land from the Arabs, it is not surprising that the US Media is so partial and blind to the truth. How would the US and/or the West respond if Israel reported that Al-Qaeda won the WAR following 911? Can you hear the outrage!!
43. So what?
Yehuda ,   Ashdod, Israel   (11.20.12)
It's not like Abbas & the PLO are any better than Hamas. In some ways, their openly stated goals are better than the supposedly 'moderate' views of the PLO.
44. dear salma
postroad ,   USA   (11.20.12)
smarty pants: just what is it you have won, accomplished? the beat goes on as your hamas leaders kill off your children by subjecting them to indoctrination that only brings a worse and worse situation to your section of the world. You claim Jerusalem as Your City--a holy spot. And so you send rockets at your holy sites and at Muslims living there.a That is the mindlessness of you and your dumb leaders.
45. The elusive award for restraint
Ilan   (11.20.12)
Israel has 10's of thousands of soldiers waiting for the go to begin a ground operation. We are waiting because Obama and other Western leader want this. The reward for letting diplomacy run it's course is that we are declared the "loser" of the conflict. Well someone should tell these jokers that the battle hasn't started yet and there may be more to come.
46. ISR needs to find new ways to fight future wars too...
Brett Levitas ,   JHB South Africa   (11.20.12)
47. Abbas was already a lame duck
William ,   Israel   (11.20.12)
and viewed with disdain as a corrupt politician, nothing more, even if this battle with Hamas never took place.
48. Ceasefire starts at 6.30pm Israeli time
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (11.20.12)
What has Netanyahu achieved exactly?
49. So, Taliban win PR in Afganistan
Avram Goldsmith ,   Toronto, Canada   (11.20.12)
No PLO and no Hamas win nothing, Israel has the win war against terorism and defend itself regarless to the political speculation. The Moslems have tested Israel in context of "New Order" in Moslem World and agian and again the looser are Palestinians which are not deserve nothing because is a pervered nation.
50. Well since the US media is known for hiding the truth
Jake   (11.20.12)
just as they did during the election campaigns, we can be certain the opposite is true,
51. they are wrong. worse record than arm chair generals.
ralph   (11.20.12)
52. Hamuda 37 from gaza
Brett ,   South Africa   (11.20.12)
Really?? Funny you should say we have lost when hardly any of the rockets you sent have done too much damage. Its hysterical what delinquents you are. Just remember after this round of "fighting" the Israeli systems will just get more and more sophisticated and better prevent your useless rockets from penetrating the iron dome. And, to give you another excuse to hate the jews and Israel, we will make lots of money from it while your supporter, irat throw money away with dated and wasted technology.Maybe you should change sides:)
53. #10 - I love your victories, too
William ,   Israel   (11.20.12)
No change in blockade, no betterment of your lives, no removal of roadblocks, declining world sympathy, fantastic technology that kept Israelis safe....just destruction in Gaza, 2 oppressive leaderships (Hamas, Fatah), rockets shot from Gaza possibly injuring Arabs in West Bank and a clear-cut reason why Pallys do not deserve a State. I love your idea of a victory for "Palestinians". May you have many, many more.
54. goldberg is useless uninformed man appeals to ideologue only
ralph   (11.20.12)
55. Jason 6 Your mentall capacity is that one of a 5 Year Old.
(11.20.12)
SHUT UP. You dont know what the hell You are talking. I am sure you are not a military expert. And no one in the military or on the Politics could have done more than the ones that are now. Starting with Kipat Barsel
56. You came back from the death? hahaha
(11.20.12)
57. Way to win
olavi ,   espoo, finland   (11.20.12)
Way for Israel to win and prevent continuing rocket attacs is to level Gaza as Gilad Sharon proposed. No body cares more than two weeks.
58. Israel Wins Battle - Hamas wins War ??
ltrail ,   United States   (11.20.12)
The article describes Veteran diplomat Aaron Miller, as writing in the Foreign Policy magazine that Hamas won the war and "it doesn't really matter if Israel wins the battle. The reason being that Hamas has trumped Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. " But this is pure folly. Miller has failed to factor into the calculus equation, G-d's love for the Jews and for the State of Israel. Hamas will eventually fade away, but the Jews and Israel will have Eretz Yisrael eternally. The new media opinion is worthless as tits on a bore.
59. Flaw in logic here
Eli ,   U.S.   (11.20.12)
The only way Hamas can win is if it stops being Hamas. It doesn't matter how much support they get from Arab countries, as long as they don't recognize Israel's right to exist, they won't get anywhere. As soon as they do recognize Israel's right to exist, they cease being Hamas.
60. To #58 And what abouttheir God?
Jon ,   USA   (11.20.12)
They believe their God will give them their country and you think yours will do it. Let's send the two Gods to fight, and the one that will be the victor , will give the land to his people, OK? As a rule all religious people need their head examine.
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