Gazans face harsh reality after op
Roi Simyoni
Published: 22.11.12, 13:50
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1. Numbers
John ,   Herzliya   (11.22.12)
So, you are stating that 163 Palestinians were killed and over 1,200 were wounded, 40 victims were children, many women were among victims. Do you have any independent source that can support these numbers of casualties? Or is it just Hamas Pallywood propaganda? Why don't you state as usually BBC states "We were not able to verify blah blah blah..."? Sorry, you might find me cynical, but I came to conclusion that I don't believe a single word from Hamas or Arabs in general.
2. More reality.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (11.22.12)
Iran will rebuild everything. Who has to face a harsh reality the Jews living in the state of Israel. The harsh reality of how their leaders starting with Oslo put them into such a terrible situation,(fix).
3. They are unable to learn
Yael Schlichting ,   currently Munich   (11.22.12)
Soon we will be back at the point, that we have to tell Gazans that we cannot get used to their missiles and mortar shells in a language, they understand.
4. This will cost Bibi the election
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (11.22.12)
Giving a cease fire with no tangible gains for Israel was a bad decision. Unlike previous fights with the Arabs where they claimed victory, here they have real things to show for their terror and this will only encourage more.
5. Hamas Should Pay
Richard Provencher ,   Truro, Canada   (11.22.12)
Hamas should pay every penny for restoration. They brought on this war once again bringing nothing but ruin to Gaza. Everyone knows they are an occupying force having defeated Fatah which ruled before. Instead of buying munitions and rockets, build a society of peace. And get rid of Hamas who are really there to implement the plans of Iran and Syria. What a disgrace to the women and children who were placed in harms way as human shields to thugs and terrorists.
6. good luck palestina
jew ,   europe   (11.22.12)
please israel only dont run there to help them rebuild and to finance all !!
7. The other side of the medal
Dr D ,   Jerusalem   (11.22.12)
Sorrow and despair for the wounded and dead and joy and prosperity for the builders and contractors .
8. What I dont understand is why they are all
Peggy ,   UK   (11.22.12)
so behind Haniye and Mashaal, when those leaders where in so called "exile". Why where they not among their people, why were they hiding? Oh sorry forgot its their way. Hamas, hey there, Israel is still here so you also didnt get what you wanted! You are so lucky the Israelis have more concern for 1 life then you do for 100's. I feel if there is going to be any chance for quiet Hamas has to go, they are a terror squad, nothing less.
9. inaccurate
The pro-Hamas press is at it again. We have articles showing Gazan's "showing relief at the end of fighting" and "the high price Gazans paid" like this. In reality, the Gazans were celebrating their victory, and they believe the price they paid was small for defeating the IDF, humiliating Israel and watching Netanyahu surrender.
10. gaza
spookey ,   birmingham uk   (11.22.12)
over 100 killed there city in ruins and they call that a victory i dont thing i will ever understand the arab logic
11. There is reality and then there are Arabs.
Ben Yisrael ,   Tel Aviv   (11.22.12)
Robert ,   Israel   (11.22.12)
Palestinian claimed VICTORY after truce was declared. Of course they should claim victory. Victory because most of them remained alive, as they were not massacred as their Syrian neighbor brothers.
13. Hamas Victory?
John ,   NY USA   (11.22.12)
Hamas is about 2 victories away from being annihilated. Bibi may have the last laugh. Egypt is now committed to stopping the rearming of Hamas. If the truce does not hold, a ground war will be justified and Israel can tell the world that they tried to avoid it, but had no other option. The world is finally starting to understand that Hamas has no regard for human life and that Israel tried to protect Palestinian as well as Israeli civilians. Just because Israel defended it's civilians against attacks, It does not make the targeting of civilians by Hamas any less despicable.
14. Hamas Is Delusional
emanon ,   USA   (11.22.12)
Not that being delusional is anything new to Hamas. I do feel sorry for the dead on both sides, but I can't see this as either side "winning". This is not sporting event, but tally up the lives and physical damage. For Hamas to claim this as victory proves, yet again, they love death more than Israel loves life. Golda Meier was right.
15. Wishful leftist thinking
David ,   Copenhagen   (11.22.12)
EU will write a blank cheque in the coming days, restoring damaged property create jobs. Let's be honest, It is Israel facing harsh reality, not Hamas. Peace.
16. A fools dance...
RichInBoston ,   Boston USA   (11.22.12)
This century's fools dance in the gaza streets to the hamas music. The billion dollars it will take to recover what they had could have been used to educate and feed their children. Israel will use this episode to analyze the hamas tactics and the effectiveness of the IDF including Iron Dome. The result will be enhancement of systems, weapons and tactics. While the fools dance in the streets of gaza, the Israeli planners will be revising, adapting and strengthening its military and counter missile technology. And yet the fools dance on.
17. Israel protects. Hamas and Arabs sacrifice!
Dee Bee ,   Israel   (11.22.12)
Jews see their children as the future. Arabs see their children as potential "martyrs" for their cause of World Jihad. Muslim children die by the thousands in East and West Africa. Muslims suffer in the Sudan Somalia, Nigeria and many other countries but do you see the Arab Oil Sheiks providing money for medicines, doctors for Doctors Without Borders? No, they drive the gold Roll Royces and close their eyes to the suffering of their own and rely on the charity of the West and the do-gooders who get killed by Islamic terrorists. They don't even blink an eye! That says it all!
18. The Palestinian Delusion
Once again if proof were needed , listening to Arab and Palestinian leaders is that they and the people live in a delusional make believe world. They have done so for at least 64 years. This delusion doesn't bear any resemblance to the real world about them, particularly the political and historical reality. The quicker they and their leaders wake up from this dream the quicker they will make progress to happy decent and fulfilled lives.
19. What is sad about all this is that...
Free Gaza ,   from Hamas   (11.22.12)
Gazan's who lost their homes to strikes will get none of the money sent for rebuilding cause it will go to buy even more weapons.
20. Claiming victory
Jason ,   Bloomfield, CT   (11.22.12)
I wonder what it would take for any Arab government or group to admit defeat... YouTube is full of video of the Egyptians and the Jordanians claiming victory in 1967... It's actually laughable....
21. I see not too many
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (11.22.12)
destroyed building in recent Gaza photographs. Never mind surely a lot of garbage cans were damaged during the offensive.
22. I would risk to say - small defeat is healthy for Israel
Benjamin ,   TA ISrael   (11.22.12)
It could be even more useful than small victory. The sense of mild humiliation is forcing better preparation for the next confrontation and sharpen resolve to make sacrifices for victory in the next for war. You can depend on Hamas for the rocket shower in the next couple of years if not months. Hopefully Israel will have think through set of clear and comprehensive conditions to impose on the enemy by that time.
23. The USA had better not send a penny....
David ,   Hartford USA   (11.22.12)
to help these sociopaths to rebuild. And recall the Mashaal stated that EGYPT supplied weapons to Hamas! What a fair peace broker! If Hamas is resupplied, EGYPT shall be on the receiving end of Israel's wrath. Bibi has only kicked the can down the street- maybe for a year, maybe for months, but we know that the idiots who run Gaza cannot restrain their Quran-induced hatred for Israel and the rockets will resume, probably sooner rather than later. Israel's response to sporadic rocket fire from Gaza should be immediate and severe. As for the children of Gaza who perished, the parents only have to thank Hamas for that. One would think that the 'average' Gaza citizen would be running Hamas members over with their cars and stabbing them in the street. But since they don't, one is forced to believe that much of Gaza supports these terrorists. That being the case, all Gaza is a target. I suggest that the people of Gaza prevent rockets from being fired at Israel. Haniyeh and Mashaal live like princes while the morons that follow their orders are killed and their neighborhoods destroyed. Do Arabs have brains?
24. Why doesn't the media emphasize the facts
Salim ,   Canada   (11.22.12)
A survivor of that family that was bombed by the IDF said in an interview that they were warned by Israel to leave. He said they "didn't believe it". Why oh why is this not emphasized when the media reported this tragic story?? Obviously Israel can not be blamed for the consequences of these peoples' foolish and stubborn decision to stay after being warned that an attack was imminent. Maybe in the future innoncent lives can be spared if the civilian population of Gaza starts to trust Israeli good intentions and humane actions.
25. Victory!
Ellen ,   Israel/NYC   (11.22.12)
It most certainly was a victory for Hamas a. they will get foreign money to rebuild b. they will get more open borders c. they do not care if civilians were killed. If they did care they would have evacuated them and not placed launchers in civilian area d. the only reason less Israelis died is because Israelis did NOT go to school and hid in shelters Those who are delusional are those who deny that this was, unfortunately a Hamas victory.
26. A great opportunity to help Gaza Arabs leave forever.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.22.12)
Now that Gaza Arabs face a harsh new reality; this is a great time for Israel to step up to the plate and offer them, as well as Judea and Samaria Arabs, every possible assistance to leave our land forever. Most of them would love a chance at a new life elsewhere.
27. wasted war
Brad Naksuthin ,   Boulder USA   (11.22.12)
Time to let the Jews and Palestinians bomb themselves into oblivion. This childish schoolyard feud has been going on for over 60 years and is no closer to a peaceful solution today than it was 60 years ago. Meanwhile Blacks and Whites in the US have learned to integrate; Apartheid in South Africa is ended; Communism and Capitalism have figured out a way to actually co-exists and cooperate; the IRA has ended its bloody war in Ireland; America has diplomatic and trade relations with Communist Vietnam. Only the hardline juveniles, the Jews and the Palestinians, continue their never ending tit for tat battle to determine who "God really Loves Best". If Jews and Palestinians can't be creative enough to find a way to get the rest of the world...maybe they should be left to massacre each other till nothing is left in Israel and Gaza but bombed out buildings
28. nice copy and paste job...
fred ,   California   (11.22.12)
your brain is working overtime I see.
29. this is the price of supporting terrorists
zionist forever   (11.22.12)
They might get some international aid money but it will be just a fraction of what they need and even once the houses have been fixed up hundreds if not thousands will have lost everything because Gazans do not have insurance, the place is considered to high risk for any company to insure them. Neither the PA or Hamas are going to be financially compensating them so those who have lost everything unless they got some funds in the bank will never get it back. This is the kind of sacrifices people have to make if they want to support terror. REAL peace brings rewards, terror makes you a hero amongst the people who support you but the end result is suffering for the terrorist & his supporters.
30. Got what they deserve
David ,   Montpelier USA   (11.22.12)
Palestinians got what they deserved. Next time, which there will be, the IDF will not be restrained by Obama because his demand to submit to Hamas will not be acceptable after the UN recognizes the Pals and Iran gets closer to nuclear status. This is the real deal Hilary Clinton negotiated with Bibi,
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